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date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:01:08 -0700 (PDT),    group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.security        back       


Scheduler works then quits. Wants password AGAIN--why??   
I set up the scheduler to run a set of DOS commands.  It works for a
while then quits saying that it has a "launch failure" and the
password is bad.  The error value is Error Value: 2147943726

Now, if I re-enter my user name and password (the same one as last
time)  as the user account (this is an administrative account), it
works again for a while.  I have it set to run even if I am not logged
on and at the "highest" level.

Why does it run for about 1/2 to 3/4 of a week and then quit.  So damn
madening.  Seems like the Vista Security has a BUNCH of these really
screwed up problems.

microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:01:08 -0700 (PDT)   author:   eganders

Re: Scheduler works then quits. Wants password AGAIN--why??   
For goodness sake!  Is there no one that can answer this scheduler
question???
date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:17:39 -0700 (PDT)   author:   eganders

Re: Scheduler works then quits. Wants password AGAIN--why??   
On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:17:39 -0700 (PDT), eganders
 wrote:

>For goodness sake!  Is there no one that can answer this scheduler
>question???

You really need to work on your patience.
date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:29:22 -0500   author:   Paul Montgomery

Re: Scheduler works then quits. Wants password AGAIN--why??   
On Sep 24, 2:29 pm, Paul Montgomery 
wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:17:39 -0700 (PDT), eganders
>
>  wrote:
> >For goodness sake!  Is there no one that can answer this scheduler
> >question???
>
> You really need to work on your patience.

Maybe so, but when it comes to "security", I don't have much patience
to work on....

I am just waiting for the day they pull me out of the line at the
airline security, because I have a very disgusted look on my face the
whole time I am going through airport security.
date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 10:35:42 -0700 (PDT)   author:   eganders

Re: Scheduler works then quits. Wants password AGAIN--why??   
eganders wrote:
> On Sep 24, 2:29 pm, Paul Montgomery 
> wrote:
>> On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:17:39 -0700 (PDT), eganders
>>
>>  wrote:
>>> For goodness sake!  Is there no one that can answer this scheduler
>>> question???
>> You really need to work on your patience.
> 
> Maybe so, but when it comes to "security", I don't have much patience
> to work on....
> 
> I am just waiting for the day they pull me out of the line at the
> airline security, because I have a very disgusted look on my face the
> whole time I am going through airport security.

Show a little patience at the airport, and it will happen for you. :-P
date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 13:43:30 -0400   author:   Paul Montgumdrop

Re: Scheduler works then quits. Wants password AGAIN--why??   
On Sep 25, 1:43 pm, Paul Montgumdrop  wrote:
> eganders wrote:
> > On Sep 24, 2:29 pm, Paul Montgomery 
> > wrote:
> >> On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:17:39 -0700 (PDT), eganders
>
> >>  wrote:
> >>> For goodness sake!  Is there no one that can answer this scheduler
> >>> question???
> >> You really need to work on your patience.
>
> > Maybe so, but when it comes to "security", I don't have much patience
> > to work on....
>
> > I am just waiting for the day they pull me out of the line at the
> > airline security, because I have a very disgusted look on my face the
> > whole time I am going through airport security.
>
> Show a little patience at the airport, and it will happen for you. :-P- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Well...  The scheduler is still working today.  Imagine that!

Of course something had to not work smoothly...  My PPC update took a
few times before it synced the data between it and my Vista Computer.
Not sure how much of an "improvement" the Mobile Device Center is in
Vista over ActiveSync.
date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 07:48:38 -0700 (PDT)   author:   eganders

Re: Scheduler works then quits. Wants password AGAIN--why??   
eganders wrote:
> On Sep 25, 1:43 pm, Paul Montgumdrop  wrote:
>> eganders wrote:
>>> On Sep 24, 2:29 pm, Paul Montgomery 
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:17:39 -0700 (PDT), eganders
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> For goodness sake!  Is there no one that can answer this scheduler
>>>>> question???
>>>> You really need to work on your patience.
>>> Maybe so, but when it comes to "security", I don't have much patience
>>> to work on....
>>> I am just waiting for the day they pull me out of the line at the
>>> airline security, because I have a very disgusted look on my face the
>>> whole time I am going through airport security.
>> Show a little patience at the airport, and it will happen for you. :-P- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
> 
> Well...  The scheduler is still working today.  Imagine that!
> 
> Of course something had to not work smoothly...  My PPC update took a
> few times before it synced the data between it and my Vista Computer.
> Not sure how much of an "improvement" the Mobile Device Center is in
> Vista over ActiveSync.

What can I say? You seem to be a pessimistic type of person.
date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 14:17:51 -0400   author:   Paul Montgumdrop

Re: Scheduler works then quits. Wants password AGAIN--why??   
Well, it has been nearly a week and my question has still not been
answered.  Come to think of it, my questions on Vista security seem to
stump everyone, no matter HOW SIMPLE....

The question, reiterated, IS

I set up the scheduler to run a set of DOS commands.  It works for a
while then quits saying that it has a "launch failure" and the
password is bad.  The error value is Error Value: 2147943726

Now, if I re-enter my user name and password (the same one as last
time)  as the user account (this is an administrative account), it
works again for a while.  I have it set to run even if I am not
logged
on and at the "highest" level.

This has happened again since I asked the question.  It is now working
fine for about 4 days or so.  NOT A GOOD THING!!!!
date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 04:55:57 -0700 (PDT)   author:   eganders

Re: Scheduler works then quits. Wants password AGAIN--why??   
On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 04:55:57 -0700 (PDT), eganders
 wrote:

>Well, it has been nearly a week and my question has still not been
>answered.  Come to think of it, my questions on Vista security seem to
>stump everyone, no matter HOW SIMPLE....

If they're so damned simple, you should be able to answer them on your
own with a little Googling.
date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 07:29:18 -0500   author:   Paul Montgomery

Re: Scheduler works then quits. Wants password AGAIN--why??   
Aside from the 'stop the task if it runs longer than 3 days' setting
I don't have a answer for you - have you tried tech support?

"eganders"  wrote in message 
news:154f7fde-e6f5-4de5-91c2-a081b962d388@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> Well, it has been nearly a week and my question has still not been
> answered.  Come to think of it, my questions on Vista security seem to
> stump everyone, no matter HOW SIMPLE....
>
> The question, reiterated, IS
>
> I set up the scheduler to run a set of DOS commands.  It works for a
> while then quits saying that it has a "launch failure" and the
> password is bad.  The error value is Error Value: 2147943726
>
> Now, if I re-enter my user name and password (the same one as last
> time)  as the user account (this is an administrative account), it
> works again for a while.  I have it set to run even if I am not
> logged
> on and at the "highest" level.
>
> This has happened again since I asked the question.  It is now working
> fine for about 4 days or so.  NOT A GOOD THING!!!!
date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 09:49:08 -0400   author:   FromTheRafters

Re: Scheduler works then quits. Wants password AGAIN--why??   
On Sep 29, 9:49 am, "FromTheRafters" 
wrote:
> Aside from the 'stop the task if it runs longer than 3 days' setting
> I don't have a answer for you - have you tried tech support?
>
> "eganders"  wrote in message
>
> news:154f7fde-e6f5-4de5-91c2-a081b962d388@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > Well, it has been nearly a week and my question has still not been
> > answered.  Come to think of it, my questions on Vista security seem to
> > stump everyone, no matter HOW SIMPLE....
>
> > The question, reiterated, IS
>
> > I set up the scheduler to run a set of DOS commands.  It works for a
> > while then quits saying that it has a "launch failure" and the
> > password is bad.  The error value is Error Value: 2147943726
>
> > Now, if I re-enter my user name and password (the same one as last
> > time)  as the user account (this is an administrative account), it
> > works again for a while.  I have it set to run even if I am not
> > logged
> > on and at the "highest" level.
>
> > This has happened again since I asked the question.  It is now working
> > fine for about 4 days or so.  NOT A GOOD THING!!!!- Hide quoted text > - Show quoted text -

Did it again.  I am just about ready to drop UAC.  I have to go in and
re-enter my user name and password
date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 04:32:24 -0700 (PDT)   author:   eganders

Re: Scheduler works then quits. Wants password AGAIN--why??   
>
> Did it again.  I am just about ready to drop UAC.  I have to go in and
> re-enter my user name and password- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Well, after just one too many times getting the access denied when I
dropped a URL on the links bar (of all the damn things) and having the
scheduler somehow determining that I need to enter my password again,
I turned the UAC off.  I did not like to do it, but regardless of the
support I hear for it, it is flawed.  MS needs to make the UAC work
consistently the same way and in an intuitive way.  The last thing I
am interested in is to try to second guess a non-intuitive security
system that is obviously not working in a consist manner.  I have been
in engineering for 40 years and I know when I recognize something that
is not working properly or consistently.

Windows Vista has MANY VERY NICE FEATURES.  I really appreciate the
areas that have been improved.

But...While we are at it and I am venting.  There are 4 things that
need to be fixed in Windows Vista:

1.  The security system so that even a simple minded person can
understand how it works (no comment please, all you security
infatuated people out there).

2.  The ability to transfer a person's environment from an old
computer with an old operating system to a new environment with a new
operating system EASILY.  REPEAT.... EASILY.   REPEAT... EASILY.
MICROSOFT... DO YOU HEAR???  EASILY!!!!
I don't mean the "easy transfer" or "PC Mover" that make you have to
know extensively about how to shut down every security program and
firewall on both systems or they crash with devastating consequences.
(By the way.  This is NOT a request.  It is a warning.  The lack of
having something like this is a hidden cost to Microsoft that they
MUST NOT EVEN HAVE A CLUE ABOUT.  I put off upgrading to a new PC for
about 2 1/2 to 3 years just so I don't have to go through one or two
months of hell.  I put together a 36 or so step procedure to perform
the transfer.  If anyone doubts that it takes this, then email me and
I will send the procedure to you.  If all you do is surf the internet
and write a few letters, then I am not talking to you.  I am a power
user.  USER, not an IT person--USER.

3.  Here is a tough one, but the most important.  The operating system
should not get in the way of a person working no matter what.
a.  New features need to be introduced in a way that do not get in the
way of a person working.  I don't want to spend 15 to 20 minutes
looking around for a feature that I have used for 20 years (Yes,
possibly before Windows.  Windows made it easier than DOS because it
was intuitive).  The new Word layout is improved, but it is not viewed
that way if I am trying to accomplish something and it gets in my way.
b.  Operating system and application updates coming up and requesting
installation when I launch an application to do work ARE NOT
APPRECIATED AT ALL.  Hear?  NOT APPRECIATED AT ALL!!!  Do them at the
end of the day, when I am off the machine and according to some
procedure that I have agreed to.  (Always, when agreed to (put in a
list of to do's that I can review when I damn well see fit) or NEVER)
Don't bug me when I am doing my work.

4.  Here is a trivial one but one that really P*SSes me off!  Only
scroll a frame/window with the scroll wheel where my mouse arrow is
over the window.  In other words, only where I mouseover.  Some
applications have it right.  Every one of them should have this
right.
date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:14:21 -0700 (PDT)   author:   eganders

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