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date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:58:15 -0400,    group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.security        back       


IE7 - Vista - UAC - Java Snot   
OK Now Folks... this is the most peculiar situation I've encountered to date
with Visa/IE...  Here's what I've done and here's what's going on... I'm
trying to access NOAA radars with IE7.  NOAA radars are Java applets...

An example can be found here:
http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=PBZ&product=NCR&overlay=11101111&loop=yes

I updated Java to 1.6U7 and applets have subsequently failed... so I...

Uninstalled all versions of Java
Deleted the Java folder under Program Files
Reset ALL of IE7 to defaults... inlcuding the master reset to defaults (made
sure activex controls, jre, etc. we're reenabled)
Rebooted
Downloaded and installed JRE 1.6U7 using the manual java installer (with AV
disabled and run as administrator)

NOW...

Java applets (including NOAA radars) work fine in FireFox for ALL USERS
Java applets (including NOAA radars) work fine in IE7 in ANOTHER USER (not
admin) on this same computer
Java applets (including NOAA radars) DO NOT WORK in IE7 for MY (admin) user
on this computer

CONCLUSION... there is something "user specific" in either IE or VISTA or
JAVA that's blocking this funtionality... If I only knew what !!!!!

If I turn of User Account Control (UAC)... the problem
goes away... Where's the bug ??  Security Policy perhaps ?   I'm running 
32-bit Ultimate SP1
date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:58:15 -0400   author:   timb

Re: IE7 - Vista - UAC - Java Snot   
Works fine on my Vista machine.


On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:58:15 -0400, "timb" 
wrote:

>OK Now Folks... this is the most peculiar situation I've encountered to date
>with Visa/IE...  Here's what I've done and here's what's going on... I'm
>trying to access NOAA radars with IE7.  NOAA radars are Java applets...
>
>An example can be found here:
>http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=PBZ&product=NCR&overlay=11101111&loop=yes
>
>I updated Java to 1.6U7 and applets have subsequently failed... so I...
>
>Uninstalled all versions of Java
>Deleted the Java folder under Program Files
>Reset ALL of IE7 to defaults... inlcuding the master reset to defaults (made
>sure activex controls, jre, etc. we're reenabled)
>Rebooted
>Downloaded and installed JRE 1.6U7 using the manual java installer (with AV
>disabled and run as administrator)
>
>NOW...
>
>Java applets (including NOAA radars) work fine in FireFox for ALL USERS
>Java applets (including NOAA radars) work fine in IE7 in ANOTHER USER (not
>admin) on this same computer
>Java applets (including NOAA radars) DO NOT WORK in IE7 for MY (admin) user
>on this computer
>
>CONCLUSION... there is something "user specific" in either IE or VISTA or
>JAVA that's blocking this funtionality... If I only knew what !!!!!
>
>If I turn of User Account Control (UAC)... the problem
>goes away... Where's the bug ??  Security Policy perhaps ?   I'm running 
>32-bit Ultimate SP1
>
>
>
>
date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:40:46 -0400   author:   David Sherman

Re: IE7 - Vista - UAC - Java Snot   
IE - Tools - Manage Add-on - Enable those that say Java

"timb"  wrote in message news:uddIPGWCJHA.4884@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> OK Now Folks... this is the most peculiar situation I've encountered to date
> with Visa/IE...  Here's what I've done and here's what's going on... I'm
> trying to access NOAA radars with IE7.  NOAA radars are Java applets...
> 
> An example can be found here:
> http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=PBZ&product=NCR&overlay=11101111&loop=yes
> 
> I updated Java to 1.6U7 and applets have subsequently failed... so I...
> 
> Uninstalled all versions of Java
> Deleted the Java folder under Program Files
> Reset ALL of IE7 to defaults... inlcuding the master reset to defaults (made
> sure activex controls, jre, etc. we're reenabled)
> Rebooted
> Downloaded and installed JRE 1.6U7 using the manual java installer (with AV
> disabled and run as administrator)
> 
> NOW...
> 
> Java applets (including NOAA radars) work fine in FireFox for ALL USERS
> Java applets (including NOAA radars) work fine in IE7 in ANOTHER USER (not
> admin) on this same computer
> Java applets (including NOAA radars) DO NOT WORK in IE7 for MY (admin) user
> on this computer
> 
> CONCLUSION... there is something "user specific" in either IE or VISTA or
> JAVA that's blocking this funtionality... If I only knew what !!!!!
> 
> If I turn of User Account Control (UAC)... the problem
> goes away... Where's the bug ??  Security Policy perhaps ?   I'm running 
> 32-bit Ultimate SP1
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 12:51:43 -0700   author:   Spirit

Re: IE7 - Vista - UAC - Java Snot   
Done all that... something's wrong in UAC !

"Spirit"  wrote in message 
news:eZKnqChCJHA.1816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
IE - Tools - Manage Add-on - Enable those that say Java

"timb"  wrote in message 
news:uddIPGWCJHA.4884@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> OK Now Folks... this is the most peculiar situation I've encountered to 
> date
> with Visa/IE...  Here's what I've done and here's what's going on... I'm
> trying to access NOAA radars with IE7.  NOAA radars are Java applets...
>
> An example can be found here:
> http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=PBZ&product=NCR&overlay=11101111&loop=yes
>
> I updated Java to 1.6U7 and applets have subsequently failed... so I...
>
> Uninstalled all versions of Java
> Deleted the Java folder under Program Files
> Reset ALL of IE7 to defaults... inlcuding the master reset to defaults 
> (made
> sure activex controls, jre, etc. we're reenabled)
> Rebooted
> Downloaded and installed JRE 1.6U7 using the manual java installer (with 
> AV
> disabled and run as administrator)
>
> NOW...
>
> Java applets (including NOAA radars) work fine in FireFox for ALL USERS
> Java applets (including NOAA radars) work fine in IE7 in ANOTHER USER (not
> admin) on this same computer
> Java applets (including NOAA radars) DO NOT WORK in IE7 for MY (admin) 
> user
> on this computer
>
> CONCLUSION... there is something "user specific" in either IE or VISTA or
> JAVA that's blocking this funtionality... If I only knew what !!!!!
>
> If I turn of User Account Control (UAC)... the problem
> goes away... Where's the bug ??  Security Policy perhaps ?   I'm running
> 32-bit Ultimate SP1
>
>
>
>
>
date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 07:53:33 -0400   author:   timb

Re: IE7 - Vista - UAC - Java Snot   
Stupid question
Have you try to install the java from the user account (not admin)

The install from other programs have still some problem whit the new
UAC and user account system.

But sry for asking if you have try.


-- 
Diblo
date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:10:37 -0500   author:   Diblo

Re: IE7 - Vista - UAC - Java Snot   
No, never tried it... I didn't think you could install plug-ins or programs 
from a user account... well... you can, but what happens is that UAC will 
ask for the administrators permission... interesting concept... for now on 
my machine... UAC is toast !

"Diblo"  wrote in message 
news:cf71ebe570611b1f6e04529ffbf6d810@nntp-gateway.com...
>
> Stupid question
> Have you try to install the java from the user account (not admin)
>
> The install from other programs have still some problem whit the new
> UAC and user account system.
>
> But sry for asking if you have try.
>
>
> -- 
> Diblo
date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 13:58:38 -0400   author:   timb

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