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date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:50:00 -0700,
group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
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mouse moves on its own
hi,
i know this sounds a little strange, but a few times now (in past few weeks
since i've upgraded to vista) i've found the mouse has moved on its own.
initially i thought perhaps i had moved the mouse, and there had been a
delay in what i saw on-screen, so i ignored it. but just now, i put my hand
on the mouse but didn't move it at all... and it very very quickly whizzed to
the right, and then far to the left, finishing right above my desktop
shortcut for Ad-Aware 2008
this has happened a few times, the sudden movements i mean. (i never paid
attention to where the mouse ended up)... it's very spooky, and i'm very
worried.
i'm not a security expert, so i've done scans with Ad-aware; spybot S&D; NAV
08 (now dumped due to IE problems it caused); Avast; Windows Malicious
software Remover... none of them found anything.
i also have the vista firewall on, and ZA firewall on (i'm a cautious
person) so nobody should be able to access my computer, but quite frankly i'm
frightened someone's got access to my computer... the sudden whizzing of my
mouse is quite alarming, off the top of my head usually it doesnt go --> then
<--, i think when it happens it usually moves randomly, and ends up in a
completely different place to where i intend to move the mouse
so my question is, is there any way i can tell if someone can access/is
accessing my computer? (for example, would typing "netstat -n -a" into
command prompt, help at all?)
thankyou
date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:50:00 -0700
author: puthp
Re: mouse moves on its own
"puthp" schreef in bericht
news:3A6F8A85-E376-4460-8651-150A58C3C851@microsoft.com...
> hi,
>
> i know this sounds a little strange, but a few times now (in past few
> weeks
> since i've upgraded to vista) i've found the mouse has moved on its own.
>
> initially i thought perhaps i had moved the mouse, and there had been a
> delay in what i saw on-screen, so i ignored it. but just now, i put my
> hand
> on the mouse but didn't move it at all... and it very very quickly whizzed
> to
> the right, and then far to the left, finishing right above my desktop
> shortcut for Ad-Aware 2008
>
> this has happened a few times, the sudden movements i mean. (i never paid
> attention to where the mouse ended up)... it's very spooky, and i'm very
> worried.
>
> i'm not a security expert, so i've done scans with Ad-aware; spybot S&D;
> NAV
> 08 (now dumped due to IE problems it caused); Avast; Windows Malicious
> software Remover... none of them found anything.
>
> i also have the vista firewall on, and ZA firewall on (i'm a cautious
> person) so nobody should be able to access my computer, but quite frankly
> i'm
> frightened someone's got access to my computer... the sudden whizzing of
> my
> mouse is quite alarming, off the top of my head usually it doesnt go -->
> then
> <--, i think when it happens it usually moves randomly, and ends up in a
> completely different place to where i intend to move the mouse
>
> so my question is, is there any way i can tell if someone can access/is
> accessing my computer? (for example, would typing "netstat -n -a" into
> command prompt, help at all?)
>
> thankyou
This is great! The mouse itself is moving? Do you feed your mouse with corn
or cheese maybe?
date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:43:58 +0200
author: Flight jPUNTvoorbeeld@gmailPUNTcom
Re: mouse moves on its own
puthp wrote:
> hi,
>
> i know this sounds a little strange, but a few times now (in past few
> weeks since i've upgraded to vista) i've found the mouse has moved on its
> own.
>
> initially i thought perhaps i had moved the mouse, and there had been a
> delay in what i saw on-screen, so i ignored it. but just now, i put my
> hand on the mouse but didn't move it at all... and it very very quickly
> whizzed to the right, and then far to the left, finishing right above my
> desktop shortcut for Ad-Aware 2008
>
> this has happened a few times, the sudden movements i mean. (i never paid
> attention to where the mouse ended up)... it's very spooky, and i'm very
> worried.
>
> i'm not a security expert, so i've done scans with Ad-aware; spybot S&D;
> NAV 08 (now dumped due to IE problems it caused); Avast; Windows Malicious
> software Remover... none of them found anything.
>
> i also have the vista firewall on, and ZA firewall on (i'm a cautious
> person) so nobody should be able to access my computer, but quite frankly
> i'm frightened someone's got access to my computer... the sudden whizzing
> of my mouse is quite alarming, off the top of my head usually it doesnt go
> --> then <--, i think when it happens it usually moves randomly, and ends
> up in a completely different place to where i intend to move the mouse
>
> so my question is, is there any way i can tell if someone can access/is
> accessing my computer? (for example, would typing "netstat -n -a" into
> command prompt, help at all?)
Is this a wireless mouse? If yes, change the battery. If a wired mouse, try
a different mouse. This behavior also can happen if you have a wireless
mouse and are in an environment where someone else also has a wireless
mouse. Your system can pick up their mouse movements.
Malke
--
MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 05:11:17 -0700
author: Malke lid
Re: mouse moves on its own
On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 05:11:17 -0700, Malke <malke@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
>puthp wrote:
>
>> hi,
>>
>> i know this sounds a little strange, but a few times now (in past few
>> weeks since i've upgraded to vista) i've found the mouse has moved on its
>> own.
>>
>> initially i thought perhaps i had moved the mouse, and there had been a
>> delay in what i saw on-screen, so i ignored it. but just now, i put my
>> hand on the mouse but didn't move it at all... and it very very quickly
>> whizzed to the right, and then far to the left, finishing right above my
>> desktop shortcut for Ad-Aware 2008
>>
>> this has happened a few times, the sudden movements i mean. (i never paid
>> attention to where the mouse ended up)... it's very spooky, and i'm very
>> worried.
>>
>> i'm not a security expert, so i've done scans with Ad-aware; spybot S&D;
>> NAV 08 (now dumped due to IE problems it caused); Avast; Windows Malicious
>> software Remover... none of them found anything.
>>
>> i also have the vista firewall on, and ZA firewall on (i'm a cautious
>> person) so nobody should be able to access my computer, but quite frankly
>> i'm frightened someone's got access to my computer... the sudden whizzing
>> of my mouse is quite alarming, off the top of my head usually it doesnt go
>> --> then <--, i think when it happens it usually moves randomly, and ends
>> up in a completely different place to where i intend to move the mouse
>>
>> so my question is, is there any way i can tell if someone can access/is
>> accessing my computer? (for example, would typing "netstat -n -a" into
>> command prompt, help at all?)
>
>Is this a wireless mouse? If yes, change the battery. If a wired mouse, try
>a different mouse. This behavior also can happen if you have a wireless
>mouse and are in an environment where someone else also has a wireless
>mouse. Your system can pick up their mouse movements.
>
>Malke
Go to "Start > Settings > Control Panel > Mouse > Pointer Options",
look under "Snap To" and make sure "Automatically move pointer to the
default button in a dialog box" is not checked.
--
"...Amusing, yet not without a certain understated omniscience"
date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:27:49 -0400
author: Eric Tiberius Duckman
Re: mouse moves on its own
My main question wasnt answered; is there anyway i can tell if someone has
access to my computer? can anyone help please
has my malware checks been thorough enough? i thought netstat might have
helped, although i'd need to be told which letters to type after 'netstat'
and, to those who tried to help:
*thanks malke, i'll give another mouse a go.
*eric, that option was already un-ticked
*beoweolfe, it is a wired mouse but its one of those laser ones, so theres
nothing to open, but i cleaned a little dust from underneath it (although not
much)
"Malke" wrote:
> puthp wrote:
>
> > hi,
> >
> > i know this sounds a little strange, but a few times now (in past few
> > weeks since i've upgraded to vista) i've found the mouse has moved on its
> > own.
> >
> > initially i thought perhaps i had moved the mouse, and there had been a
> > delay in what i saw on-screen, so i ignored it. but just now, i put my
> > hand on the mouse but didn't move it at all... and it very very quickly
> > whizzed to the right, and then far to the left, finishing right above my
> > desktop shortcut for Ad-Aware 2008
> >
> > this has happened a few times, the sudden movements i mean. (i never paid
> > attention to where the mouse ended up)... it's very spooky, and i'm very
> > worried.
> >
> > i'm not a security expert, so i've done scans with Ad-aware; spybot S&D;
> > NAV 08 (now dumped due to IE problems it caused); Avast; Windows Malicious
> > software Remover... none of them found anything.
> >
> > i also have the vista firewall on, and ZA firewall on (i'm a cautious
> > person) so nobody should be able to access my computer, but quite frankly
> > i'm frightened someone's got access to my computer... the sudden whizzing
> > of my mouse is quite alarming, off the top of my head usually it doesnt go
> > --> then <--, i think when it happens it usually moves randomly, and ends
> > up in a completely different place to where i intend to move the mouse
> >
> > so my question is, is there any way i can tell if someone can access/is
> > accessing my computer? (for example, would typing "netstat -n -a" into
> > command prompt, help at all?)
>
> Is this a wireless mouse? If yes, change the battery. If a wired mouse, try
> a different mouse. This behavior also can happen if you have a wireless
> mouse and are in an environment where someone else also has a wireless
> mouse. Your system can pick up their mouse movements.
>
> Malke
> --
> MS-MVP
> Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
> FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
>
>
date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:38:00 -0700
author: puthp
Re: mouse moves on its own
If the mouse has specific manufacturer related drivers, install them.
Laser mice are known to be flaky without the proper driver. MS generic
drivers are not always the best solution.
Not only do they run and play all by themselves, they like to keep your
computer awake at night. (I suspect they are afraid of the dark.) But,
mostly if lighting conditions change (shading the mouse when you move, car
passes by the house, street light goes out, night light blinks, etc.) they
sometimes think they've been moved.
"puthp" wrote in message
news:8BDBD20E-D125-4489-A16E-5F29EB1E6723@microsoft.com...
> My main question wasnt answered; is there anyway i can tell if someone has
> access to my computer? can anyone help please
>
> has my malware checks been thorough enough? i thought netstat might have
> helped, although i'd need to be told which letters to type after 'netstat'
>
> and, to those who tried to help:
>
> *thanks malke, i'll give another mouse a go.
>
> *eric, that option was already un-ticked
>
> *beoweolfe, it is a wired mouse but its one of those laser ones, so theres
> nothing to open, but i cleaned a little dust from underneath it (although
not
> much)
>
>
>
>
> "Malke" wrote:
>
> > puthp wrote:
> >
> > > hi,
> > >
> > > i know this sounds a little strange, but a few times now (in past few
> > > weeks since i've upgraded to vista) i've found the mouse has moved on
its
> > > own.
> > >
> > > initially i thought perhaps i had moved the mouse, and there had been
a
> > > delay in what i saw on-screen, so i ignored it. but just now, i put my
> > > hand on the mouse but didn't move it at all... and it very very
quickly
> > > whizzed to the right, and then far to the left, finishing right above
my
> > > desktop shortcut for Ad-Aware 2008
> > >
> > > this has happened a few times, the sudden movements i mean. (i never
paid
> > > attention to where the mouse ended up)... it's very spooky, and i'm
very
> > > worried.
> > >
> > > i'm not a security expert, so i've done scans with Ad-aware; spybot
S&D;
> > > NAV 08 (now dumped due to IE problems it caused); Avast; Windows
Malicious
> > > software Remover... none of them found anything.
> > >
> > > i also have the vista firewall on, and ZA firewall on (i'm a cautious
> > > person) so nobody should be able to access my computer, but quite
frankly
> > > i'm frightened someone's got access to my computer... the sudden
whizzing
> > > of my mouse is quite alarming, off the top of my head usually it
doesnt go
> > > --> then <--, i think when it happens it usually moves randomly, and
ends
> > > up in a completely different place to where i intend to move the mouse
> > >
> > > so my question is, is there any way i can tell if someone can
access/is
> > > accessing my computer? (for example, would typing "netstat -n -a" into
> > > command prompt, help at all?)
> >
> > Is this a wireless mouse? If yes, change the battery. If a wired mouse,
try
> > a different mouse. This behavior also can happen if you have a wireless
> > mouse and are in an environment where someone else also has a wireless
> > mouse. Your system can pick up their mouse movements.
> >
> > Malke
> > --
> > MS-MVP
> > Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
> > FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
> >
> >
date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:02:52 -0500
author: Mark H
Re: mouse moves on its own
You are going to need to setup and review your Firewall audit logs to see if
anyone is coming into your system. As a first step, if you suspect someone
is sharing your desk top is to pick the low hanging fruit, disable RDP
remote desktop and/or any 3rd party sharing you have installed. Do what is
needed to give you peace of mind.
Tools like TCPview coupled with tasklist, might provide some insight if you
do not have intrusion detection installed.
"puthp" wrote in message
news:8BDBD20E-D125-4489-A16E-5F29EB1E6723@microsoft.com...
> My main question wasnt answered; is there anyway i can tell if someone has
> access to my computer? can anyone help please
>
> has my malware checks been thorough enough? i thought netstat might have
> helped, although i'd need to be told which letters to type after 'netstat'
>
> and, to those who tried to help:
>
> *thanks malke, i'll give another mouse a go.
>
> *eric, that option was already un-ticked
>
> *beoweolfe, it is a wired mouse but its one of those laser ones, so theres
> nothing to open, but i cleaned a little dust from underneath it (although
> not
> much)
>
>
>
>
> "Malke" wrote:
>
>> puthp wrote:
>>
>> > hi,
>> >
>> > i know this sounds a little strange, but a few times now (in past few
>> > weeks since i've upgraded to vista) i've found the mouse has moved on
>> > its
>> > own.
>> >
>> > initially i thought perhaps i had moved the mouse, and there had been a
>> > delay in what i saw on-screen, so i ignored it. but just now, i put my
>> > hand on the mouse but didn't move it at all... and it very very quickly
>> > whizzed to the right, and then far to the left, finishing right above
>> > my
>> > desktop shortcut for Ad-Aware 2008
>> >
>> > this has happened a few times, the sudden movements i mean. (i never
>> > paid
>> > attention to where the mouse ended up)... it's very spooky, and i'm
>> > very
>> > worried.
>> >
>> > i'm not a security expert, so i've done scans with Ad-aware; spybot
>> > S&D;
>> > NAV 08 (now dumped due to IE problems it caused); Avast; Windows
>> > Malicious
>> > software Remover... none of them found anything.
>> >
>> > i also have the vista firewall on, and ZA firewall on (i'm a cautious
>> > person) so nobody should be able to access my computer, but quite
>> > frankly
>> > i'm frightened someone's got access to my computer... the sudden
>> > whizzing
>> > of my mouse is quite alarming, off the top of my head usually it doesnt
>> > go
>> > --> then <--, i think when it happens it usually moves randomly, and
>> > ends
>> > up in a completely different place to where i intend to move the mouse
>> >
>> > so my question is, is there any way i can tell if someone can access/is
>> > accessing my computer? (for example, would typing "netstat -n -a" into
>> > command prompt, help at all?)
>>
>> Is this a wireless mouse? If yes, change the battery. If a wired mouse,
>> try
>> a different mouse. This behavior also can happen if you have a wireless
>> mouse and are in an environment where someone else also has a wireless
>> mouse. Your system can pick up their mouse movements.
>>
>> Malke
>> --
>> MS-MVP
>> Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
>> FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
>>
>>
date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:08:03 -0700
author: beoweolf
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