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date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 19:08:48 -0500,    group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.security        back       


Botnet threat fiction?   
I found this bot net security risk to be of interest. Does anyone have
any knowledge if this is a threat one should be concerned with? As a
precaution i have downloaded trend micro's rubotted beta program.


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DAS WULF
date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 19:08:48 -0500   author:   DAS WULF

Re: Botnet threat fiction?   
"DAS WULF"  wrote in message 
news:bead81a2f1d05b911ef0b8ce1c1d6e23@nntp-gateway.com...
>
> I found this bot net security risk to be of interest. Does anyone have
> any knowledge if this is a threat one should be concerned with? As a
> precaution i have downloaded trend micro's rubotted beta program.
>
>

What are you talking about?
date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 23:41:15 -0400   author:   Mr. Arnold MR.

Re: Botnet threat fiction?   
here are some links.

'US surfers 'alarmingly' ignorant over botnet danger - Security -
iTnews Australia'
(http://www.itnews.com.au/News/73710,us-surfers-alarmingly-ignorant-over-botnet-danger.aspx)

'Botnet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia'
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botnet)


-- 
DAS WULF
date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 23:01:31 -0500   author:   DAS WULF

Re: Botnet threat fiction?   
"DAS WULF"  wrote in message 
news:a8db032830ec1b65a992213b0773063b@nntp-gateway.com...
>
> here are some links.
>
> 'US surfers 'alarmingly' ignorant over botnet danger - Security -
> iTnews Australia'
> (http://www.itnews.com.au/News/73710,us-surfers-alarmingly-ignorant-over-botnet-danger.aspx)
>
> 'Botnet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia'
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botnet)
>
>

Yeah, well you're right.  US suffers are unaware of the botnet dangers as 
the surf the Internet with Windows machines with full Admin rights, and they 
don't know how to implement safe hex computing practices.

I think UAC on Vista is trying to address some of the issues by not allowing 
the Admin user to run on the Internet with Full Admin rights,  and the Admin 
is locked down to Standard user rights. If the Admin is on the Internet and 
something is happening that requires Full Admin rights, then the user is 
prompted to allow or disallow the action. If the user is a Standard user, 
then the user is prompted to give a user-id and psw to an Admin account to 
proceed. At least,  something would be in their face forcing them take 
notice that something could be happening good or bad, if they recognize the 
situation.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Admin-Approval-Mode-in-Windows-Vista-45312.shtml
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc709691.aspx

It is not unlike a user running on Linux where the user is a Limited user or 
a user that's not an Admin with full rights, until such time the user is 
prompted to give the root user/admin user-id and psw before things will 
processed.

UAC if enabled can help stop this kind of stuff from happening if the user 
recognizes the conditions as to why the user is being prompted.

http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Security/Hundreds-Click-on-Click-Here-to-Get-Infected-Ad/
date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 04:03:48 -0400   author:   Mr. Arnold MR.

Re: Botnet threat fiction?   
"Mr. Arnold" <MR. Arnold@Arnold.com> schreef in bericht 
news:uARQAkQAJHA.4064@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
> "DAS WULF"  wrote in message 
> news:a8db032830ec1b65a992213b0773063b@nntp-gateway.com...
>>
>> here are some links.
>>
>> 'US surfers 'alarmingly' ignorant over botnet danger - Security -
>> iTnews Australia'
>> (http://www.itnews.com.au/News/73710,us-surfers-alarmingly-ignorant-over-botnet-danger.aspx)
>>
>> 'Botnet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia'
>> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botnet)
>>
>>
>
> Yeah, well you're right.  US suffers are unaware of the botnet dangers as 
> the surf the Internet with Windows machines with full Admin rights, and 
> they don't know how to implement safe hex computing practices.
>
> I think UAC on Vista is trying to address some of the issues by not 
> allowing the Admin user to run on the Internet with Full Admin rights, 
> and the Admin is locked down to Standard user rights. If the Admin is on 
> the Internet and something is happening that requires Full Admin rights, 
> then the user is prompted to allow or disallow the action. If the user is 
> a Standard user, then the user is prompted to give a user-id and psw to an 
> Admin account to proceed. At least,  something would be in their face 
> forcing them take notice that something could be happening good or bad, if 
> they recognize the situation.
>
> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Admin-Approval-Mode-in-Windows-Vista-45312.shtml
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc709691.aspx
>
> It is not unlike a user running on Linux where the user is a Limited user 
> or a user that's not an Admin with full rights, until such time the user 
> is prompted to give the root user/admin user-id and psw before things will 
> processed.
>
> UAC if enabled can help stop this kind of stuff from happening if the user 
> recognizes the conditions as to why the user is being prompted.
>
> http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Security/Hundreds-Click-on-Click-Here-to-Get-Infected-Ad/

There is a simple solution: all your traffic through a safe channel. Ever 
heard of OpenDNS? Visit opendns.com and read it. It saved me several times 
from attacks.
date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:29:02 +0200   author:   Flight jPUNTvoorbeeld@gmailPUNTcom

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