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date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 21:18:17 -0500,    group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.security        back       


Is Defender the problem?   
My Pavilion Vista laptop has been running slower and slower. Especially
while on the web. Pages take forever to come up. Even program files or
the All Programs menu. I have tried disabling Windows Defender thinking
it might be scanning everything. Is this a possibility? Thanks.


-- 
febsr
date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 21:18:17 -0500   author:   febsr

Re: Is Defender the problem?   
febsr wrote:
> My Pavilion Vista laptop has been running slower and slower. Especially
> while on the web. Pages take forever to come up. Even program files or
> the All Programs menu. I have tried disabling Windows Defender thinking
> it might be scanning everything. Is this a possibility? Thanks.
> 
> 


I have had problems with defender so it might be. Did you disable it? 
What anti spyware software do you use? Web speed could be due to a 
number of things but spyware is one.
date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 21:44:16 -0500   author:   Charlie Tame

Re: Is Defender the problem?   
"febsr"  wrote in message 
news:90d4bda28c3b5745757dc52277041fa2@nntp-gateway.com...
>
> My Pavilion Vista laptop has been running slower and slower. Especially
> while on the web. Pages take forever to come up. Even program files or
> the All Programs menu. I have tried disabling Windows Defender thinking
> it might be scanning everything. Is this a possibility? Thanks.
>

It sounds like you have some kind of malware running on the computer that's 
slowing it down.
date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 00:33:10 -0400   author:   Mr. Arnold MR.

Re: Is Defender the problem?   
I use AVG and Adaware regularly. And I run disk cleanup almost daily. I
have noticed a small difference since disabling Defender, but not much.
I've tried to eliminate the most obvious causes, but still this Vista
unit runs much slower than any previous OS I've used. Way too many
services are running but eliminating any which seemed unnecessary caused
problems and I had to restore them. Any suggestions?


-- 
febsr
date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 07:33:39 -0500   author:   febsr

Re: Is Defender the problem?   
"febsr"  wrote in message 
news:c1d676789fc84252eb07ca9318920e47@nntp-gateway.com...
>
> I use AVG and Adaware regularly. And I run disk cleanup almost daily. I
> have noticed a small difference since disabling Defender, but not much.
> I've tried to eliminate the most obvious causes, but still this Vista
> unit runs much slower than any previous OS I've used. Way too many
> services are running but eliminating any which seemed unnecessary caused
> problems and I had to restore them. Any suggestions?
>
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=how+to+speed+up+vista&btnG=Search

Each one of the solutions you mentioned above can miss an exploit.

<http://www.windowsecurity.com/articles/Hidden_Backdoors_Trojan_Horses_and_Rootkit_Tools_in_a_Windows_Environment.html>

use Currports as Active Ports doesn't run on Vista.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/default.aspx
date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 09:00:37 -0400   author:   Mr. Arnold MR.

Re: Is Defender the problem?   
What do you suggest I use to scan? I haven't found any program that
finds and removes rootkits.


-- 
febsr
date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 08:27:11 -0500   author:   febsr

Re: Is Defender the problem?   
"febsr"  wrote in message 
news:8b6ffd275e4b1421d40d0c2f426c759e@nntp-gateway.com...
>
> What do you suggest I use to scan? I haven't found any program that
> finds and removes rootkits.
>

I am not saying you have to do anything, but you at least have to go look 
for yourself with the proper tools and how to detect something on your own 
without having some program do it for you, which the "hidden backdoor link 
shows you how".

<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/25e27bed-b251-4af4-b30a-c2a2a93a80d9.aspx>

I will say that you need to learn how to reply post. I will suggest that to 
you.
date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 09:46:10 -0400   author:   Mr. Arnold MR.

RE: Is Defender the problem?   
Not only did I notice the same slowdown, but the program seems to disrespect 
any installed suite that already does the same thing.  I have a perfectly 
good virus/spam protector that doesn't need any freakin' help, thank you very 
much.  Windows Offender keeps popping up and (worse) quietly disrupting the 
performance of my own virus/spam/spyware program.  Either they made this 
product for (a) lightweights, (b) to limit MS liability or (c) to sell you 
something you don't need.  Warning:  If you disable it, Windows Update keeps 
trying to modify it, thus turning it back on again.

barrettbates@gmail.com

"febsr" wrote:

> 
> My Pavilion Vista laptop has been running slower and slower. Especially
> while on the web. Pages take forever to come up. Even program files or
> the All Programs menu. I have tried disabling Windows Defender thinking
> it might be scanning everything. Is this a possibility? Thanks.
> 
> 
> -- 
> febsr
>
date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 06:49:03 -0700   author:   NoBloatwarePlease

Re: Is Defender the problem?   
Sorry for any confusion. I was asking for suggestions. I am just a
grandmother who is trying to keep my computers running smoothly. I do
need to rely on programs because my technical background is limited. I
don't know how to reply to a post as I don't post very much. If there
are some guidelines I'd be glad to read them. Thank you for your help.


-- 
febsr
date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 09:40:54 -0500   author:   febsr

Re: Is Defender the problem?   
When you run Vista - you really need to be sure you have the hardware to 
match the horsepower it takes to make it work. Vista is very sensitive to 
misconfiguration, driver problems, correct hardware configuration - much 
more so than XP, XP-Pro or any of the 2K family.

Just how often do you clear your IE history and logs?


"febsr"  wrote in message 
news:90d4bda28c3b5745757dc52277041fa2@nntp-gateway.com...
>
> My Pavilion Vista laptop has been running slower and slower. Especially
> while on the web. Pages take forever to come up. Even program files or
> the All Programs menu. I have tried disabling Windows Defender thinking
> it might be scanning everything. Is this a possibility? Thanks.
>
>
> -- 
> febsr
date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 10:41:54 -0700   author:   Beoweolf

Re: Is Defender the problem?   
I regularly clean them out about once a week. Disabling windows defender
helped some, but programs have begun hanging. I have 2gb ram which
seemed fine at first. Nothing obvious has changed except for the slowed
down performance.


-- 
febsr
date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 17:01:54 -0500   author:   febsr

RE: Is Defender the problem?   
my nephew builds computers and he said it takes a lot of memory just to run 
vista,mine is slow on startup and certain pages i open also .

"febsr" wrote:

> 
> My Pavilion Vista laptop has been running slower and slower. Especially
> while on the web. Pages take forever to come up. Even program files or
> the All Programs menu. I have tried disabling Windows Defender thinking
> it might be scanning everything. Is this a possibility? Thanks.
> 
> 
> -- 
> febsr
>
date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 15:29:01 -0700   author:   Anna

Re: Is Defender the problem?   
"febsr"  wrote in message 
news:ba521d715830faf70d0f7c57e2bde1d6@nntp-gateway.com...
>
> I regularly clean them out about once a week. Disabling windows defender
> helped some, but programs have begun hanging. I have 2gb ram which
> seemed fine at first. Nothing obvious has changed except for the slowed
> down performance.
>
>

Fsbsr, do you see how I am replying to you and everyone else in this thread 
are replying to you? You don't keep posting to your original post with your 
reply posts. You select the poster you are replying to and you reply to 
them, like I am replying to you.
date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 18:48:14 -0400   author:   Mr. Arnold MR.

Re: Is Defender the problem?   
Spybot Search & Destroy will.
Download and install it, then scan in Safe Mode.
All info below.


http://www.spybot.info/en/index.html

Spybot Search & Destroy 1.5.2 is a very good, FREE Anti-Spyware Program.
Download, install, update, and immunize your System with it.
Then SCAN with it.
Update it, and scan your System once a fortnight.

Important re: Safe Mode
If you happen to find a problem that you can’t uninstall / delete, reboot 
the computer, and go into Safe Mode.
To get into Safe mode, tap F8 right at Power On / Startup, and use UP arrow 
key to get to Safe Mode, then hit ENTER.
RESCAN your computer with your Anti-virus and Spybot S & D while in Safe Mode.

-- 
Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia


"febsr" wrote:

> 
> What do you suggest I use to scan? I haven't found any program that
> finds and removes rootkits.
> 
> 
> -- 
> febsr
>
date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 21:49:00 -0700   author:   Mick Murphy

Re: Is Defender the problem?   
"febsr"  wrote in message 
news:c1d676789fc84252eb07ca9318920e47@nntp-gateway.com...
>
> I use AVG and Adaware regularly. And I run disk cleanup almost daily. I
> have noticed a small difference since disabling Defender, but not much.
> I've tried to eliminate the most obvious causes, but still this Vista
> unit runs much slower than any previous OS I've used. Way too many
> services are running but eliminating any which seemed unnecessary caused
> problems and I had to restore them. Any suggestions?
>
>
> -- 
> febsr

Enable Windows Defender. Have you installed all Microsoft udates? It seems 
that malware is rampant. An updated Defender will help.

Have you downloaded and installed AVG Free 8.0? It now incluces an 
anti-spyware facility. Go to the direct download page here: 
http://tinyurl.com/6g6497
date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 19:30:14 -0700   author:   Charles W Davis

Re: Is Defender the problem?   
"Anna"  wrote in message 
news:B50390C1-1EBD-4093-8E78-7BC9EC9C7F50@microsoft.com...
> my nephew builds computers and he said it takes a lot of memory just to 
> run
> vista,mine is slow on startup and certain pages i open also .
>
> "febsr" wrote:
>
>>
>> My Pavilion Vista laptop has been running slower and slower. Especially
>> while on the web. Pages take forever to come up. Even program files or
>> the All Programs menu. I have tried disabling Windows Defender thinking
>> it might be scanning everything. Is this a possibility? Thanks.
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> febsr
>>

Minimum 2GB
date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 19:32:26 -0700   author:   Charles W Davis

Re: Is Defender the problem?   
Yes, I have updated AVG to 8.0 although I don't like it as much as 7.5.
Disabling Windows defender did help speed it up somewhat. And I have
done all windows updates except for SP1 for Vista as I have heard there
are still some problems which I am hoping to temporarily avoid.
febsr


-- 
febsr
date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 07:45:37 -0500   author:   febsr

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