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date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 11:49:04 -0700,
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Re: networking xp to vista
ronseg wrote:
> I have a Win xp machine and a Win Vista machine. The vista sees and prints
> through the xp but the xp can not get logged into the vista machine. The
> error message I get is:
> \\ron-pc is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
> network resource. Login failure: The user has not been granted the
> requested login type at this computer.
> I have granted myself full control and everything else I can think of. I'm
> probably missing something stupid, but I am at a loss. I can't map the
> drive on the xp machine or anything else. Step by step help would be
> appreciated. Once again, the vista machine sees the xp, but the xp,
> although it sees the vista machine, will not let me on to the c drive.
> Thanks, ron
Here are general network troubleshooting steps. Not everything may be
applicable to your situation, so just take the bits that are. It may look
daunting, but if you follow the steps at the links and suggestions below
systematically and calmly, you will have no difficulty in setting up your
sharing.
Excellent, thorough, yet easy to understand article about File/Printer
Sharing in Vista. Includes details about sharing printers as well as files
and folders:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb727037.aspx
For XP, start by running the Network Setup Wizard on all machines (see
caveat in Item A below).
Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally caused
by 1) a misconfigured firewall or overlooked firewall (including a stateful
firewall in a VPN); or 2) inadvertently running two firewalls such as the
built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party firewall; and/or 3) not having
identical user accounts and passwords on all Workgroup machines; 4) trying
to create shares where the operating system does not permit it.
A. Configure firewalls on all machines to allow the Local Area Network (LAN)
traffic as trusted. With Windows Firewall, this means allowing File/Printer
Sharing on the Exceptions tab. Normally running the Network Setup Wizard on
XP will take care of this for those machines.The only "gotcha" is that this
will turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you aren't running a
third-party firewall or have an antivirus with "Internet Worm
Protection" (like Norton 2006/07) which acts as a firewall, then you're
fine. With third-party firewalls, I usually configure the LAN allowance
with an IP range. Ex. would be 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you
would substitute your correct subnet. Do not run more than one firewall. DO
NOT TURN OFF FIREWALLS; CONFIGURE THEM CORRECTLY.
B. For ease of organization, put all computers in the same Workgroup. This
is done from the System applet in Control Panel, Computer Name tab.
C. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not
need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords
assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just
need to exist and match on all machines. DO NOT NEGLECT TO CREATE
PASSWORDS, EVEN IF ONLY SIMPLE ONES. If you wish a machine to boot directly
to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for convenience, you
can do this. The instructions at this link work for both XP and Vista:
Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) -
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm
D. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center, turn off
Simple File Sharing (Folder Options>View tab).
E. Create shares as desired. XP Home does not permit sharing of users' home
directories or Program Files, but you can share folders inside those
directories. A better choice is to simply use the Shared Documents folder.
See the first link above for details about Vista sharing.
Malke
--
MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 12:00:57 -0700
author: Malke lid
Re: networking xp to vista
Unfortunately I have already done all of this. I rechecked everything and
there has been no change. My xp computer sees the vista and shows the C:
drive. When I attempt to get onto the C: drive I get the error message that I
listed below. I can not gain access to the files!
"Malke" wrote:
> ronseg wrote:
>
> > I have a Win xp machine and a Win Vista machine. The vista sees and prints
> > through the xp but the xp can not get logged into the vista machine. The
> > error message I get is:
> > \\ron-pc is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
> > network resource. Login failure: The user has not been granted the
> > requested login type at this computer.
> > I have granted myself full control and everything else I can think of. I'm
> > probably missing something stupid, but I am at a loss. I can't map the
> > drive on the xp machine or anything else. Step by step help would be
> > appreciated. Once again, the vista machine sees the xp, but the xp,
> > although it sees the vista machine, will not let me on to the c drive.
> > Thanks, ron
>
> Here are general network troubleshooting steps. Not everything may be
> applicable to your situation, so just take the bits that are. It may look
> daunting, but if you follow the steps at the links and suggestions below
> systematically and calmly, you will have no difficulty in setting up your
> sharing.
>
> Excellent, thorough, yet easy to understand article about File/Printer
> Sharing in Vista. Includes details about sharing printers as well as files
> and folders:
>
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb727037.aspx
>
> For XP, start by running the Network Setup Wizard on all machines (see
> caveat in Item A below).
>
> Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally caused
> by 1) a misconfigured firewall or overlooked firewall (including a stateful
> firewall in a VPN); or 2) inadvertently running two firewalls such as the
> built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party firewall; and/or 3) not having
> identical user accounts and passwords on all Workgroup machines; 4) trying
> to create shares where the operating system does not permit it.
>
> A. Configure firewalls on all machines to allow the Local Area Network (LAN)
> traffic as trusted. With Windows Firewall, this means allowing File/Printer
> Sharing on the Exceptions tab. Normally running the Network Setup Wizard on
> XP will take care of this for those machines.The only "gotcha" is that this
> will turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you aren't running a
> third-party firewall or have an antivirus with "Internet Worm
> Protection" (like Norton 2006/07) which acts as a firewall, then you're
> fine. With third-party firewalls, I usually configure the LAN allowance
> with an IP range. Ex. would be 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you
> would substitute your correct subnet. Do not run more than one firewall. DO
> NOT TURN OFF FIREWALLS; CONFIGURE THEM CORRECTLY.
>
> B. For ease of organization, put all computers in the same Workgroup. This
> is done from the System applet in Control Panel, Computer Name tab.
>
> C. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not
> need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords
> assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just
> need to exist and match on all machines. DO NOT NEGLECT TO CREATE
> PASSWORDS, EVEN IF ONLY SIMPLE ONES. If you wish a machine to boot directly
> to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for convenience, you
> can do this. The instructions at this link work for both XP and Vista:
>
> Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) -
> http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm
>
> D. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center, turn off
> Simple File Sharing (Folder Options>View tab).
>
> E. Create shares as desired. XP Home does not permit sharing of users' home
> directories or Program Files, but you can share folders inside those
> directories. A better choice is to simply use the Shared Documents folder.
> See the first link above for details about Vista sharing.
>
>
> Malke
> --
> MS-MVP
> Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
> FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
>
>
date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 12:47:01 -0700
author: ronseg
Re: networking xp to vista
Have a read of the info below. Hope it helps.
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb727037.aspx
Have a read of the above link re Vista File and Printer Sharing.
Permissions/Share info is there as well.
If using Norton, McAfee, Trend Micro I.S., make sure file and printer
sharing is enabled in THEIR firewall (or LAN allowed, depending on how their
Exceptions are worded in their Firewall)
1st thing to do is make sure that the Workgroup Name of ALL the computers is
the SAME.
In Vista Network and Sharing:
Network Discovery: ON (So it can see the other computers)
Network set to Private (Public is for hotspots, airports, etc)
File Sharing: ON
Public Folder Sharing: ON (Vistaâs Public Folder is the same as XPâs Shared
Docs)
Password Protected: OFF (unless you want to set up identical usernames and
passwords (passwords can be different) on ALL computers in your Network) If
you have it ON, you will be asked for a username and password when you try to
access a Vista computer from an XP computer, or a Vista computer.
Also, run the XPâs Home or Small Office Network File and Printer Sharing
Wizard to include Vista in your âNewâ Network, even if you had an XP Network
set up prior to adding a Vista computer to it(redoing the Wizard seems to
work for XP machines!).
In âMy Network Placesâ: âSet up a Home or Small Office Networkâ
OR under Accessories > Communications > Network Setup Wizard > Allow File
and Printer Sharing.
--
Mick Murphy - Qld (Sunshine State) - Australia
"ronseg" wrote:
> Unfortunately I have already done all of this. I rechecked everything and
> there has been no change. My xp computer sees the vista and shows the C:
> drive. When I attempt to get onto the C: drive I get the error message that I
> listed below. I can not gain access to the files!
>
> "Malke" wrote:
>
> > ronseg wrote:
> >
> > > I have a Win xp machine and a Win Vista machine. The vista sees and prints
> > > through the xp but the xp can not get logged into the vista machine. The
> > > error message I get is:
> > > \\ron-pc is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
> > > network resource. Login failure: The user has not been granted the
> > > requested login type at this computer.
> > > I have granted myself full control and everything else I can think of. I'm
> > > probably missing something stupid, but I am at a loss. I can't map the
> > > drive on the xp machine or anything else. Step by step help would be
> > > appreciated. Once again, the vista machine sees the xp, but the xp,
> > > although it sees the vista machine, will not let me on to the c drive.
> > > Thanks, ron
> >
> > Here are general network troubleshooting steps. Not everything may be
> > applicable to your situation, so just take the bits that are. It may look
> > daunting, but if you follow the steps at the links and suggestions below
> > systematically and calmly, you will have no difficulty in setting up your
> > sharing.
> >
> > Excellent, thorough, yet easy to understand article about File/Printer
> > Sharing in Vista. Includes details about sharing printers as well as files
> > and folders:
> >
> > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb727037.aspx
> >
> > For XP, start by running the Network Setup Wizard on all machines (see
> > caveat in Item A below).
> >
> > Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally caused
> > by 1) a misconfigured firewall or overlooked firewall (including a stateful
> > firewall in a VPN); or 2) inadvertently running two firewalls such as the
> > built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party firewall; and/or 3) not having
> > identical user accounts and passwords on all Workgroup machines; 4) trying
> > to create shares where the operating system does not permit it.
> >
> > A. Configure firewalls on all machines to allow the Local Area Network (LAN)
> > traffic as trusted. With Windows Firewall, this means allowing File/Printer
> > Sharing on the Exceptions tab. Normally running the Network Setup Wizard on
> > XP will take care of this for those machines.The only "gotcha" is that this
> > will turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you aren't running a
> > third-party firewall or have an antivirus with "Internet Worm
> > Protection" (like Norton 2006/07) which acts as a firewall, then you're
> > fine. With third-party firewalls, I usually configure the LAN allowance
> > with an IP range. Ex. would be 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you
> > would substitute your correct subnet. Do not run more than one firewall. DO
> > NOT TURN OFF FIREWALLS; CONFIGURE THEM CORRECTLY.
> >
> > B. For ease of organization, put all computers in the same Workgroup. This
> > is done from the System applet in Control Panel, Computer Name tab.
> >
> > C. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not
> > need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords
> > assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just
> > need to exist and match on all machines. DO NOT NEGLECT TO CREATE
> > PASSWORDS, EVEN IF ONLY SIMPLE ONES. If you wish a machine to boot directly
> > to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for convenience, you
> > can do this. The instructions at this link work for both XP and Vista:
> >
> > Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) -
> > http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm
> >
> > D. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center, turn off
> > Simple File Sharing (Folder Options>View tab).
> >
> > E. Create shares as desired. XP Home does not permit sharing of users' home
> > directories or Program Files, but you can share folders inside those
> > directories. A better choice is to simply use the Shared Documents folder.
> > See the first link above for details about Vista sharing.
> >
> >
> > Malke
> > --
> > MS-MVP
> > Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
> > FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
> >
> >
date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 13:22:09 -0700
author: Mick Murphy
Re: networking xp to vista
I give the option, and the reasons why, Malke.
At home myself, I have password protected turned OFF on Vista Network
computer;(only 2), XP and Vista.
It suits me.
And I do not get asked for a Password when going into Vista.
Cheers Marion.
--
Mick Murphy - Qld (Sunshine State) - Australia
"Malke" wrote:
> Mick Murphy wrote:
>
> (snippage)
>
> > Password Protected: OFF (unless you want to set up identical usernames and
> > passwords (passwords can be different) on ALL computers in your Network)
> > If you have it ON, you will be asked for a username and password when you
> > try to access a Vista computer from an XP computer, or a Vista computer.
>
> Password Protected should be ON and yes, one should set up identical user
> accounts AND passwords on all computers. If it is ON and the identical user
> accounts/passwords are created, one will NOT be asked for the
> username/password as you write below. Sharing will be seamless and
> invisible to the end user because authentication is done locally and since
> the user account requesting the shared resource is known to the local
> machine, credentials will NOT be requested.
>
> Malke
> --
> MS-MVP
> Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
> FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
>
>
date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 14:53:00 -0700
author: Mick Murphy
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