Networking vista to win xp with wired router   

Hello, I found your forum while searching on the net for help trying to
set up a home network between my new computer with vista home premium
64-bit, service pack 1 on it and two of my older win xp computers
(service pack 2). I have been like 3 days trying to get this thing set
up and just can't seem to do it. Frankly, I have no idea what I am
doing!! And I am beginning to dislike Vista! Some background info: 3
computers using D-Link were originally networked using wired router
model DI-604. I had 3 computers networked before. Mine which was the
main computer crashed, although all computers had access to internet I
never got around to "reconnecting " everything and I just bought a new
computer so figured I would do it now. The D-Link router is old. I went
in to see if I could download any firmware upgrades and although there
is a quick install guide for win xp...nothing for vista. See: 
http://support.dlink.ca/products/view.asp?productid=DI%2D604%5FrevE
I have assigned same workgroup name. On my vista I can see both xp
computers, but cannot access them. I can't see the vista on my xp and
therefore can't access it. I have temporarily disabled firewall, enabled
file and printer sharing, downloaded and ran the Link Layer Topology
Discovery (LLTD)...what else should I be doing. I read somewhere that
perhaps I should give all the computers the same computer name..?
Thinking maybe it's the router (being an older model), I have contacted
D-Link, but as of yet have not heard back from them. Any suggestions
would help. I am getting terribly frustrated here and probably
unbearable to talk to :o
Thanks for any help!!!


-- 
CAnn

date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:10:13 -0500   author:   CAnn

Re: Networking vista to win xp with wired router   

I'm a non-expert like you but I just managed to connect a Vista x32 laptop
to a Win98 PC to enable access to the dedicated printer and files on the
Win98PC.

I don't think using the same Computer name is a good idea, but same
Workgroup is.  First I set up the HDD & Printer on Win98 PC to share over
Microsoft network.

To access the HDD I simply mapped a drive on the Vista laptop to
\\Win98PCname\SharedNameforHDDonWin98PC and everything worked like a charm.
I now have full access to my Win98 HDD from my Vista laptop.  Simlar
exercise for Printer, just created a Local Pinter with the above connection
path.

I'm not sure if this is what you want to accomplish, but if it is, feel free
to try.  Hope this helps.


"CAnn"  wrote in message
news:f7d51609ccc5bac87ada5fb0e6e82668@nntp-gateway.com...
>
> Hello, I found your forum while searching on the net for help trying to
> set up a home network between my new computer with vista home premium
> 64-bit, service pack 1 on it and two of my older win xp computers
> (service pack 2). I have been like 3 days trying to get this thing set
> up and just can't seem to do it. Frankly, I have no idea what I am
> doing!! And I am beginning to dislike Vista! Some background info: 3
> computers using D-Link were originally networked using wired router
> model DI-604. I had 3 computers networked before. Mine which was the
> main computer crashed, although all computers had access to internet I
> never got around to "reconnecting " everything and I just bought a new
> computer so figured I would do it now. The D-Link router is old. I went
> in to see if I could download any firmware upgrades and although there
> is a quick install guide for win xp...nothing for vista. See:
> http://support.dlink.ca/products/view.asp?productid=DI%2D604%5FrevE
> I have assigned same workgroup name. On my vista I can see both xp
> computers, but cannot access them. I can't see the vista on my xp and
> therefore can't access it. I have temporarily disabled firewall, enabled
> file and printer sharing, downloaded and ran the Link Layer Topology
> Discovery (LLTD)...what else should I be doing. I read somewhere that
> perhaps I should give all the computers the same computer name..?
> Thinking maybe it's the router (being an older model), I have contacted
> D-Link, but as of yet have not heard back from them. Any suggestions
> would help. I am getting terribly frustrated here and probably
> unbearable to talk to :o
> Thanks for any help!!!
>
>
> -- 
> CAnn

date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:19:27 -0400   author:   Warren

RE: Networking vista to win xp with wired router   

Below is how I Network XP and Vista.
Read carefully re 3rd Party firewalls and XP's file sharing wizard setup, 
and Vista's Network and Sharing Settings.
And, Workgroup names have to be the same, not computer names.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb727037.aspx

Have a read of the above link re Vista File and Printer Sharing.

Permissions/Share info is there as well.

If using Norton, McAfee, Trend Micro I.S., make sure file and printer 
sharing is enabled in THEIR firewall (or LAN allowed, depending on how their 
Exceptions are worded in their Firewall)

1st thing to do is make sure that the Workgroup Name of ALL the computers is 
the SAME.

In Vista Network and Sharing:

Network Discovery: ON (So it can see the other computers) 

Network set to Private (Public is for hotspots, airports, etc)

File Sharing: ON

Public Folder Sharing: ON (Vista’s Public Folder is the same as XP’s Shared 
Docs)

Password Protected: OFF (unless you want to set up identical usernames and 
passwords (passwords can be different) on ALL computers in your Network) If 
you have it ON, you will be asked for a username and password when you try to 
access a Vista computer from an XP computer, or a Vista computer.

Also, run the XP’s Home or Small Office Network File and Printer Sharing 
Wizard to include Vista in your “New” Network, even if you had an XP Network 
set up prior to adding a Vista computer to it(redoing the Wizard seems to 
work for XP machines!). 

In “My Network Places”: “Set up a Home or Small Office Network”
OR under Accessories > Communications > Network Setup Wizard > Allow File 
and Printer Sharing.

-- 
Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia


"CAnn" wrote:

> 
> Hello, I found your forum while searching on the net for help trying to
> set up a home network between my new computer with vista home premium
> 64-bit, service pack 1 on it and two of my older win xp computers
> (service pack 2). I have been like 3 days trying to get this thing set
> up and just can't seem to do it. Frankly, I have no idea what I am
> doing!! And I am beginning to dislike Vista! Some background info: 3
> computers using D-Link were originally networked using wired router
> model DI-604. I had 3 computers networked before. Mine which was the
> main computer crashed, although all computers had access to internet I
> never got around to "reconnecting " everything and I just bought a new
> computer so figured I would do it now. The D-Link router is old. I went
> in to see if I could download any firmware upgrades and although there
> is a quick install guide for win xp...nothing for vista. See: 
> http://support.dlink.ca/products/view.asp?productid=DI%2D604%5FrevE
> I have assigned same workgroup name. On my vista I can see both xp
> computers, but cannot access them. I can't see the vista on my xp and
> therefore can't access it. I have temporarily disabled firewall, enabled
> file and printer sharing, downloaded and ran the Link Layer Topology
> Discovery (LLTD)...what else should I be doing. I read somewhere that
> perhaps I should give all the computers the same computer name..?
> Thinking maybe it's the router (being an older model), I have contacted
> D-Link, but as of yet have not heard back from them. Any suggestions
> would help. I am getting terribly frustrated here and probably
> unbearable to talk to :o
> Thanks for any help!!!
> 
> 
> -- 
> CAnn
>

date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 13:36:13 -0700   author:   Mick Murphy

Re: Networking vista to win xp with wired router   

Hi
Successful Sharing involves some general consideration in Network settings, 
http://www.ezlan.net/sharing.html
As well as specific adjustment of each computer according to what it is 
allowed to be shared.
Vista File and Printer Sharing- 
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb727037.aspx
Windows XP File Sharing - 
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;304040
Printer Sharing XP - 
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/expert/honeycutt_july2.mspx
Windows Native Firewall setting for Sharing XP - 
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875357
Windows XP patch for Sharing with Vista - 
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922120
Jack (MVP-Networking).


"CAnn"  wrote in message 
news:f7d51609ccc5bac87ada5fb0e6e82668@nntp-gateway.com...
>
> Hello, I found your forum while searching on the net for help trying to
> set up a home network between my new computer with vista home premium
> 64-bit, service pack 1 on it and two of my older win xp computers
> (service pack 2). I have been like 3 days trying to get this thing set
> up and just can't seem to do it. Frankly, I have no idea what I am
> doing!! And I am beginning to dislike Vista! Some background info: 3
> computers using D-Link were originally networked using wired router
> model DI-604. I had 3 computers networked before. Mine which was the
> main computer crashed, although all computers had access to internet I
> never got around to "reconnecting " everything and I just bought a new
> computer so figured I would do it now. The D-Link router is old. I went
> in to see if I could download any firmware upgrades and although there
> is a quick install guide for win xp...nothing for vista. See:
> http://support.dlink.ca/products/view.asp?productid=DI%2D604%5FrevE
> I have assigned same workgroup name. On my vista I can see both xp
> computers, but cannot access them. I can't see the vista on my xp and
> therefore can't access it. I have temporarily disabled firewall, enabled
> file and printer sharing, downloaded and ran the Link Layer Topology
> Discovery (LLTD)...what else should I be doing. I read somewhere that
> perhaps I should give all the computers the same computer name..?
> Thinking maybe it's the router (being an older model), I have contacted
> D-Link, but as of yet have not heard back from them. Any suggestions
> would help. I am getting terribly frustrated here and probably
> unbearable to talk to :o
> Thanks for any help!!!
>
>
> -- 
> CAnn

date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:03:25 -0400   author:   Jack \(MVP-Networking\).