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date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:58:41 -0400,    group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing        back       


Sharing not working on Vista PC's   
Hello.  We are having problems sharing folders on our Vista PC's.  These 
PC's are on a domain.  We go through the sharing process and add the names 
of users.  The process seems to complete properly.   When the other user 
tries to map a drive to the shared folder the message comes back that the 
network path can not be found.  We have tried turning off the Windows 
Firewall and Symantec Endpoint Protection.   I have also noticed that I can 
not ping many of the Vista PC's.   I get 'request timed out' messages.  Any 
thoughts of what might be going on with these PC's??  Thanks much for any 
thoughts.
date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:58:41 -0400   author:   Dave D

Re: Sharing not working on Vista PC's   
For troubleshooting, start the Vista with safe mode with network. Can you 
ping it by IP?

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"Dave D"  wrote in message 
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> Hello.  We are having problems sharing folders on our Vista PC's.  These 
> PC's are on a domain.  We go through the sharing process and add the names 
> of users.  The process seems to complete properly.   When the other user 
> tries to map a drive to the shared folder the message comes back that the 
> network path can not be found.  We have tried turning off the Windows 
> Firewall and Symantec Endpoint Protection.   I have also noticed that I 
> can not ping many of the Vista PC's.   I get 'request timed out' messages. 
> Any thoughts of what might be going on with these PC's??  Thanks much for 
> any thoughts.
date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 21:23:08 -0500   author:   Robert L. \(MS-MVP\)

Re: Sharing not working on Vista PC's   
Dave D wrote:
> Hello.  We are having problems sharing folders on our Vista PC's.  These 
> PC's are on a domain.  We go through the sharing process and add the 
> names of users.  The process seems to complete properly.   When the 
> other user tries to map a drive to the shared folder the message comes 
> back that the network path can not be found.  We have tried turning off 
> the Windows Firewall and Symantec Endpoint Protection.   I have also 
> noticed that I can not ping many of the Vista PC's.   I get 'request 
> timed out' messages.  Any thoughts of what might be going on with these 
> PC's??  Thanks much for any thoughts.

Dave D, I suggest you browse posts on http://www.vistahelp.ca/ forums. I 
had exactly the same problems but with different software and TechB 
(Kerry Brown) helped me out. He's an MVP but he's also excellent and his 
advice works.

The first thing to do is create the same account with the same password 
on all the computers. Yes, a password is needed.

Once you have created ONE user for all machines with the same password, 
when users are logged in under their own names and want to "attach" to 
another computer, you map a drive letter to the machine name 
\\machine\path\ and log into that machine as the new "general" name you 
created on all the machines. This works.

Ask the forum about "ipconfig /all" to see why you can't ping the machines.
date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 22:00:10 +0200   author:   ProfQ

Re: Sharing not working on Vista PC's   
Thanks for responses.  I was able to finally get this user's folder shared. 
The way I ended up doing it is very strange.  In Active Directory I had to 
take his computer, move it to an OU that had no Group Policy applied to it, 
and then move it back to the OU it was in.  Once I did that I could ping his 
PC and map drives to his shared folders.  Make sense??

I experimented with another Vista PC here.  I could not see this PC in the 
network nor could I ping it.  I tried pinging several IP's in the range that 
this PC should have fallen into and didn't get any valid replies.  I shared 
some folders on the PC but couldn't map drives to them.  I moved the PC to 
an OU without any GP, restarted the PC, moved it back to where it belonged, 
restarted once again.  Now I am able to see the PC in the network,  I can 
ping it by it's name, I can map drives to the shared folders.  And even more 
oddly, before I did any moves when I pinged what turned out to be the PC's 
IP, I got an incorrect host name.

I'm not sure why this works.  But it did.  It just makes me love Vista even 
more.

Thanks again for the help


"ProfQ"  wrote in message 
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> Dave D wrote:
>> Hello.  We are having problems sharing folders on our Vista PC's.  These 
>> PC's are on a domain.  We go through the sharing process and add the 
>> names of users.  The process seems to complete properly.   When the other 
>> user tries to map a drive to the shared folder the message comes back 
>> that the network path can not be found.  We have tried turning off the 
>> Windows Firewall and Symantec Endpoint Protection.   I have also noticed 
>> that I can not ping many of the Vista PC's.   I get 'request timed out' 
>> messages.  Any thoughts of what might be going on with these PC's?? 
>> Thanks much for any thoughts.
>
> Dave D, I suggest you browse posts on http://www.vistahelp.ca/ forums. I 
> had exactly the same problems but with different software and TechB (Kerry 
> Brown) helped me out. He's an MVP but he's also excellent and his advice 
> works.
>
> The first thing to do is create the same account with the same password on 
> all the computers. Yes, a password is needed.
>
> Once you have created ONE user for all machines with the same password, 
> when users are logged in under their own names and want to "attach" to 
> another computer, you map a drive letter to the machine name 
> \\machine\path\ and log into that machine as the new "general" name you 
> created on all the machines. This works.
>
> Ask the forum about "ipconfig /all" to see why you can't ping the 
> machines.
date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 12:36:27 -0400   author:   Dave D

Re: Sharing not working on Vista PC's   
Yes, it can be quite a pain to setup Vista on a mixed network.
I suppose if you can't access the machine or share, it's more secure.
That isn't how I like to increase security...LOL

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"Dave D"  wrote in message 
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> Thanks for responses.  I was able to finally get this user's folder 
> shared. The way I ended up doing it is very strange.  In Active Directory 
> I had to take his computer, move it to an OU that had no Group Policy 
> applied to it, and then move it back to the OU it was in.  Once I did that 
> I could ping his PC and map drives to his shared folders.  Make sense??
>
> I experimented with another Vista PC here.  I could not see this PC in the 
> network nor could I ping it.  I tried pinging several IP's in the range 
> that this PC should have fallen into and didn't get any valid replies.  I 
> shared some folders on the PC but couldn't map drives to them.  I moved 
> the PC to an OU without any GP, restarted the PC, moved it back to where 
> it belonged, restarted once again.  Now I am able to see the PC in the 
> network,  I can ping it by it's name, I can map drives to the shared 
> folders.  And even more oddly, before I did any moves when I pinged what 
> turned out to be the PC's IP, I got an incorrect host name.
>
> I'm not sure why this works.  But it did.  It just makes me love Vista 
> even more.
>
> Thanks again for the help
>
>
> "ProfQ"  wrote in message 
> news:g72ed7$435$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>> Dave D wrote:
>>> Hello.  We are having problems sharing folders on our Vista PC's.  These 
>>> PC's are on a domain.  We go through the sharing process and add the 
>>> names of users.  The process seems to complete properly.   When the 
>>> other user tries to map a drive to the shared folder the message comes 
>>> back that the network path can not be found.  We have tried turning off 
>>> the Windows Firewall and Symantec Endpoint Protection.   I have also 
>>> noticed that I can not ping many of the Vista PC's.   I get 'request 
>>> timed out' messages.  Any thoughts of what might be going on with these 
>>> PC's?? Thanks much for any thoughts.
>>
>> Dave D, I suggest you browse posts on http://www.vistahelp.ca/ forums. I 
>> had exactly the same problems but with different software and TechB 
>> (Kerry Brown) helped me out. He's an MVP but he's also excellent and his 
>> advice works.
>>
>> The first thing to do is create the same account with the same password 
>> on all the computers. Yes, a password is needed.
>>
>> Once you have created ONE user for all machines with the same password, 
>> when users are logged in under their own names and want to "attach" to 
>> another computer, you map a drive letter to the machine name 
>> \\machine\path\ and log into that machine as the new "general" name you 
>> created on all the machines. This works.
>>
>> Ask the forum about "ipconfig /all" to see why you can't ping the 
>> machines.
>
date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 15:23:12 -0600   author:   Not Me

Re: Sharing not working on Vista PC's   
You may end up having these issues again. When you moved the workstation
back into the OU it was having the issues in it may not have picked up
the group policy settings applied to this OU that broke it in the first
place. When testing GPO related issues always run gpupdate /force and
then reboot the machine in order to verify functionality. 

I would advise creating seperate workstation policies using WMI filters
targetting just your Vista Workstations and others that just target your
XP - if you have 2000 clients upgrade them!

I've resolved serious group policy conflicts doing this, namely
firewall related. The Vista firewall policies should only be configured
under Windows Firewall with Advanced security. The firewall settings for
your XP clients under components - network - network connections -
firewall stuff - this may not be related to the issues you're seeing but
it just might!

Aaron Hughes MCSA/MCSE, CCA
Network Admin - Wa state


-- 
ahughes
date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 18:04:25 -0500   author:   ahughes

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