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date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 19:40:00 -0700,    group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing        back       


Cant get Network sharing to work   
Ok, i have all m network sharing turned on, I have followed a bunch of online 
tutorials. I still cannot share or recieve files on my vista computer. It 
works fine for my XP computer, just type in the path and its done. Not so 
with the Vista machine.
date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 19:40:00 -0700   author:   MattE

RE: Cant get Network sharing to work   
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb727037.aspx

Have a read of the above link re Vista File and Printer Sharing.

Permissions/Share info is there as well.

If using Norton, McAfee, Trend Micro I.S., make sure file and printer 
sharing is enabled in THEIR firewall (or LAN allowed, depending on how their 
Exceptions are worded in their Firewall)

1st thing to do is make sure that the Workgroup Name of ALL the computers is 
the SAME.

In Vista Network and Sharing:

Network Discovery: ON (So it can see the other computers) 

Network set to Private (Public is for hotspots, airports, etc)

File Sharing: ON

Public Folder Sharing: ON (Vista’s Public Folder is the same as XP’s Shared 
Docs)

Password Protected: OFF (unless you want to set up identical usernames and 
passwords (passwords can be different) on ALL computers in your Network) If 
you have it ON, you will be asked for a username and password when you try to 
access a Vista computer from an XP computer, or a Vista computer.

Also, run the XP’s Home or Small Office Network File and Printer Sharing 
Wizard to include Vista in your “New” Network, even if you had an XP Network 
set up prior to adding a Vista computer to it(redoing the Wizard seems to 
work for XP machines!). 

In “My Network Places”: “Set up a Home or Small Office Network”
OR under Accessories > Communications > Network Setup Wizard > Allow File 
and Printer Sharing.

-- 
Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia


"MattE" wrote:

> Ok, i have all m network sharing turned on, I have followed a bunch of online 
> tutorials. I still cannot share or recieve files on my vista computer. It 
> works fine for my XP computer, just type in the path and its done. Not so 
> with the Vista machine.
date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 21:41:03 -0700   author:   Mick Murphy

RE: Cant get Network sharing to work   
Mick-
I have done EVERYTHING that your referenced article states.  I have turned 
on everything that should be on and off everything that should be off.  I 
have run the Network Wizard on each machine, a Vista Desktop and an XP Pro 
laptop.  Right now the XP laptop "sees" the Desktop but cannot access it.  
Right now, the Vista Desktop cannot "see" the laptop.  The laptop normally 
connects wireless but I have it connected by cable, just for something 
different.  I can't both machines to see each other at the same time and 
neither can access the other when it "sees" it.  I'm about to go nuts!!  I 
have turned Windowa Firewalls on and off.  I do have Symantec Corporate 
Edition Anti Virus but I can't find any Firewall settings in it.
Can anyone please help me???

"Mick Murphy" wrote:

> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb727037.aspx
> 
> Have a read of the above link re Vista File and Printer Sharing.
> 
> Permissions/Share info is there as well.
> 
> If using Norton, McAfee, Trend Micro I.S., make sure file and printer 
> sharing is enabled in THEIR firewall (or LAN allowed, depending on how their 
> Exceptions are worded in their Firewall)
> 
> 1st thing to do is make sure that the Workgroup Name of ALL the computers is 
> the SAME.
> 
> In Vista Network and Sharing:
> 
> Network Discovery: ON (So it can see the other computers) 
> 
> Network set to Private (Public is for hotspots, airports, etc)
> 
> File Sharing: ON
> 
> Public Folder Sharing: ON (Vista’s Public Folder is the same as XP’s Shared 
> Docs)
> 
> Password Protected: OFF (unless you want to set up identical usernames and 
> passwords (passwords can be different) on ALL computers in your Network) If 
> you have it ON, you will be asked for a username and password when you try to 
> access a Vista computer from an XP computer, or a Vista computer.
> 
> Also, run the XP’s Home or Small Office Network File and Printer Sharing 
> Wizard to include Vista in your “New” Network, even if you had an XP Network 
> set up prior to adding a Vista computer to it(redoing the Wizard seems to 
> work for XP machines!). 
> 
> In “My Network Places”: “Set up a Home or Small Office Network”
> OR under Accessories > Communications > Network Setup Wizard > Allow File 
> and Printer Sharing.
> 
> -- 
> Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia
> 
> 
> "MattE" wrote:
> 
> > Ok, i have all m network sharing turned on, I have followed a bunch of online 
> > tutorials. I still cannot share or recieve files on my vista computer. It 
> > works fine for my XP computer, just type in the path and its done. Not so 
> > with the Vista machine.
date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 08:25:00 -0700   author:   David

Re: Cant get Network sharing to work   
"David"  wrote in message 
news:D99E3A82-9F02-4A96-AF39-C468CF2131C5@microsoft.com...
> Mick-
> I have done EVERYTHING that your referenced article states.  I have turned
> on everything that should be on and off everything that should be off.  I
> have run the Network Wizard on each machine, a Vista Desktop and an XP Pro
> laptop.  Right now the XP laptop "sees" the Desktop but cannot access it.
> Right now, the Vista Desktop cannot "see" the laptop.  The laptop normally
> connects wireless but I have it connected by cable, just for something
> different.  I can't both machines to see each other at the same time and
> neither can access the other when it "sees" it.  I'm about to go nuts!!  I
> have turned Windowa Firewalls on and off.  I do have Symantec Corporate
> Edition Anti Virus but I can't find any Firewall settings in it.
> Can anyone please help me???
>

I think you'll find XP Pro needs a User account with a password, as the 
guest account (which is used for networking in XP Home) is normally (and 
should be) turned OFF by default in Pro. That means that the same User 
account set up on Vista also needs the same password.
I have a Vista-XP home network and I do NOT get asked for usernames and 
passwords when connecting to shared folders on each machine...
date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 16:39:19 +0100   author:   Gordon lid

Re: Cant get Network sharing to work   
Gordon-
I do not have a User account requiring a password on either machine.  Should 
I create one on each machine and have the same password?
Thanks ever so.

"Gordon" wrote:

> "David"  wrote in message 
> news:D99E3A82-9F02-4A96-AF39-C468CF2131C5@microsoft.com...
> > Mick-
> > I have done EVERYTHING that your referenced article states.  I have turned
> > on everything that should be on and off everything that should be off.  I
> > have run the Network Wizard on each machine, a Vista Desktop and an XP Pro
> > laptop.  Right now the XP laptop "sees" the Desktop but cannot access it.
> > Right now, the Vista Desktop cannot "see" the laptop.  The laptop normally
> > connects wireless but I have it connected by cable, just for something
> > different.  I can't both machines to see each other at the same time and
> > neither can access the other when it "sees" it.  I'm about to go nuts!!  I
> > have turned Windowa Firewalls on and off.  I do have Symantec Corporate
> > Edition Anti Virus but I can't find any Firewall settings in it.
> > Can anyone please help me???
> >
> 
> I think you'll find XP Pro needs a User account with a password, as the 
> guest account (which is used for networking in XP Home) is normally (and 
> should be) turned OFF by default in Pro. That means that the same User 
> account set up on Vista also needs the same password.
> I have a Vista-XP home network and I do NOT get asked for usernames and 
> passwords when connecting to shared folders on each machine... 
> 
>
date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 08:50:01 -0700   author:   David

Re: Cant get Network sharing to work   
"David"  wrote in message 
news:73BEAB29-0F36-4501-817C-D30362DFC699@microsoft.com...
> Gordon-
> I do not have a User account requiring a password on either machine. 
> Should
> I create one on each machine and have the same password?
> Thanks ever so.
>

As I said - I think you'll find that XP Pro needs a passworded user account 
for shared access.....if that is so, then you'll need to put one on Vista as 
well...
date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 16:56:11 +0100   author:   Gordon lid

Re: Cant get Network sharing to work   
Am I stupid or what?  The Guest account on each machine does not allow me to 
create a password.  The laptop I refer to is my wife's as she works from 
home.  So do I need to create an account on the Vista machine exactly as her 
administrator account on her laptop?  (Honest, I'm fairly confuser literate 
but Vista ticks me off.)

"Gordon" wrote:

> "David"  wrote in message 
> news:73BEAB29-0F36-4501-817C-D30362DFC699@microsoft.com...
> > Gordon-
> > I do not have a User account requiring a password on either machine. 
> > Should
> > I create one on each machine and have the same password?
> > Thanks ever so.
> >
> 
> As I said - I think you'll find that XP Pro needs a passworded user account 
> for shared access.....if that is so, then you'll need to put one on Vista as 
> well... 
> 
>
date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 09:57:00 -0700   author:   David

Re: Cant get Network sharing to work   
"David"  wrote in message 
news:286B2A94-3C77-4734-A578-200A91ACAE0D@microsoft.com...
> Am I stupid or what?  The Guest account on each machine does not allow me 
> to
> create a password.  The laptop I refer to is my wife's as she works from
> home.  So do I need to create an account on the Vista machine exactly as 
> her
> administrator account on her laptop?  (Honest, I'm fairly confuser 
> literate
> but Vista ticks me off.)
>

The Guest account on both the Pro machine and the Vista should be turned 
OFF. It's a security risk. Yes you need to create the EXACT same account on 
both machines. (Just like in an XP Pro network...)
date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 18:16:23 +0100   author:   Gordon lid

Re: Cant get Network sharing to work   
Gordon, I use XP Pro and Vista Home Premium, with no specific passworded user 
accounts set up for Networking.

-- 
Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia


"Gordon" wrote:

> "David"  wrote in message 
> news:73BEAB29-0F36-4501-817C-D30362DFC699@microsoft.com...
> > Gordon-
> > I do not have a User account requiring a password on either machine. 
> > Should
> > I create one on each machine and have the same password?
> > Thanks ever so.
> >
> 
> As I said - I think you'll find that XP Pro needs a passworded user account 
> for shared access.....if that is so, then you'll need to put one on Vista as 
> well... 
> 
>
date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 15:03:01 -0700   author:   Mick Murphy

RE: Cant get Network sharing to work   
Similar problem here.  Trying to connect to a Vista Home Premium machine with 
my Vista Business laptop.  Private network, discovery on, same user accounts 
with same password on both machines, same workgroup.  Norton Internet 
security running on both and added the other machine's mac address to the 
network and trusted sites in Norton.  The computers can't see each other and 
can't share.

I've been doing networking for over 10 years and felt pretty confident up 
through XP.  This has me stumped.

"MattE" wrote:

> Ok, i have all m network sharing turned on, I have followed a bunch of online 
> tutorials. I still cannot share or recieve files on my vista computer. It 
> works fine for my XP computer, just type in the path and its done. Not so 
> with the Vista machine.
date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 19:32:00 -0700   author:   saustinb

Re: Cant get Network sharing to work   
On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 08:25:00 -0700, David 
wrote:

>Mick-
>I have done EVERYTHING that your referenced article states.  I have turned 
>on everything that should be on and off everything that should be off.  I 
>have run the Network Wizard on each machine, a Vista Desktop and an XP Pro 
>laptop.  Right now the XP laptop "sees" the Desktop but cannot access it.  
>Right now, the Vista Desktop cannot "see" the laptop.  The laptop normally 
>connects wireless but I have it connected by cable, just for something 
>different.  I can't both machines to see each other at the same time and 
>neither can access the other when it "sees" it.  I'm about to go nuts!!  I 
>have turned Windowa Firewalls on and off.  I do have Symantec Corporate 
>Edition Anti Virus but I can't find any Firewall settings in it.
>Can anyone please help me???

David,

Look in the Symantec setup for an anti-worm protection, which may be labeled as
"network protection" or similar.
<http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html>
http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html

If that doesn't help, then lets diagnose the problem.  Look at logs from
"browstat status", "ipconfig /all", "net config server", and "net config
workstation", from each computer.  Read this article, and linked articles, and
follow instructions precisely (Download browstat, and run all Vista diagnostics
from a window started as an admin!):
<http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp

-- 
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2008 [Windows - Desktop Experience]
http://networking.nitecruzr.net/
date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 08:07:01 -0700   author:   Chuck [MVP]

Re: Cant get Network sharing to work   
Chuck-
First, I could not get browstat.  First link no good, second required a 
logion to Stanford Univ IT folks.  
Second, I ran the the commands in a command window and all seemed okay 
except for "net config server" on the Vista desktop.  It said "system 5 error 
has occurred".  I pinged both machines from the other and both were found.
Next please?

"Chuck [MVP]" wrote:

> On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 08:25:00 -0700, David 
> wrote:
> 
> >Mick-
> >I have done EVERYTHING that your referenced article states.  I have turned 
> >on everything that should be on and off everything that should be off.  I 
> >have run the Network Wizard on each machine, a Vista Desktop and an XP Pro 
> >laptop.  Right now the XP laptop "sees" the Desktop but cannot access it.  
> >Right now, the Vista Desktop cannot "see" the laptop.  The laptop normally 
> >connects wireless but I have it connected by cable, just for something 
> >different.  I can't both machines to see each other at the same time and 
> >neither can access the other when it "sees" it.  I'm about to go nuts!!  I 
> >have turned Windowa Firewalls on and off.  I do have Symantec Corporate 
> >Edition Anti Virus but I can't find any Firewall settings in it.
> >Can anyone please help me???
> 
> David,
> 
> Look in the Symantec setup for an anti-worm protection, which may be labeled as
> "network protection" or similar.
> <http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html>
> http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html
> 
> If that doesn't help, then lets diagnose the problem.  Look at logs from
> "browstat status", "ipconfig /all", "net config server", and "net config
> workstation", from each computer.  Read this article, and linked articles, and
> follow instructions precisely (Download browstat, and run all Vista diagnostics
> from a window started as an admin!):
> <http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
> http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
> 
> -- 
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2008 [Windows - Desktop Experience]
> http://networking.nitecruzr.net/
>
date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 18:05:00 -0700   author:   David

Re: Cant get Network sharing to work   
Hi David and All,
I had similar problems to see my entire four computers in the same home
network. Problem start when OS in one computer been change from 32 to 63
bit. Before I had full access to each hard drive. So far I cannot do it.
Only what I did describe below:
1) Be sure you have same name of your home network. Check spelling and
editing small/capital letter.
2) StartàNetworkàNetwork and Sharing Center
a) Should be Private network
b)Access = Local and Internet
c) Connection = Local Area Connection. Check here if all computers have
same connection, not like Local Area Connection #2 and local Area
Connection #1. In computers, there are two LAN Ports = LAN1 and LAN2. Be
sure connect all computers to LAN1 or all to LAN2
3) In Sharing and Discovery check all for ON, but Password protected
sharing should be OFF.
4) Go to your first computer. Open Hard Disk example G:.Create new
folder. Name folder something like that: <(computer name) Share Files
G:>.
5) Share file <(computer name) Share Files G:>. Right click. Click on
Share. Click arrows in box left to Add. Click Everyone (All users in
this list).Click Add. Under Permission Level click arrow for everyone
and chose Co-owner. Click Share.
You have to do it with all hard disk and all computers. Of course you
chose what is good for your home network.
Regards
Stan


-- 
stasioau
date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 12:15:05 -0500   author:   stasioau

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