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date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 15:31:03 -0700,
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Re: Need help with Unistalling Vista
*Before* you do that you need to check on Toshiba site, specifict to your
laptop, as to whether winxp drivers are avialable. - If they are not, and
they may not be, dont even try.
The other point of course is that you may invalidate any warranty, and, or
support from Tosh.
If it was preinstalled with a version of Vista other than Home, it may have
downgrade writes to winxp, assuming winxp drivers are available.
If you still wish to go ahead with WinXp, you would need a retail edition,
and you would need to boot from the winxp cd, delete all partitions, prior
installing winxp. Ensure you have a means of reinstalling Vista *first*
You cannot format a win partition within win.
"Laura" wrote in message
news:08AAD293-E2AD-489C-A5C4-4681E6745C75@microsoft.com...
> Hi
>
> I'm new here to the forum, but great info
>
> I am not a techie at all, but know my way around
>
> My mother recently purchased a
> Toshiba laptop and it has Vista on it, which she hates and wants to
> uninstall it
>
> I have made a new partition on it.
>
> The Vista is on drive C and I have new Drive E
>
> When I input the cd to install XP it is stating that it cannot since there
> is a newer verision on the laptop. If I try to reformat C and take Vista
> off,
> it says i can't do that since this is the operating system for the laptop
> and
> won't format.
>
> How do I remove Vista and put XP on it?
>
> Thanks
>
date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 00:07:54 +0100
author: DL address@invalid
Re: Need help with Unistalling Vista
Thanks for all the feedback, learning a lot here
Isn't there a way I can put xp on the new hard drive I just partitioned?
So that way vista would be on one h drive C and then xp on the other
h drive E?
The big thing here isn't that I don't want vista, it is that myh mother is
78yrs and use to xp, she got the laptop for while in Mexico with wifi to get
on the internet she didn't realize it had vista on it.
Laura
"DL" wrote:
> *Before* you do that you need to check on Toshiba site, specifict to your
> laptop, as to whether winxp drivers are avialable. - If they are not, and
> they may not be, dont even try.
> The other point of course is that you may invalidate any warranty, and, or
> support from Tosh.
> If it was preinstalled with a version of Vista other than Home, it may have
> downgrade writes to winxp, assuming winxp drivers are available.
> If you still wish to go ahead with WinXp, you would need a retail edition,
> and you would need to boot from the winxp cd, delete all partitions, prior
> installing winxp. Ensure you have a means of reinstalling Vista *first*
> You cannot format a win partition within win.
>
> "Laura" wrote in message
> news:08AAD293-E2AD-489C-A5C4-4681E6745C75@microsoft.com...
> > Hi
> >
> > I'm new here to the forum, but great info
> >
> > I am not a techie at all, but know my way around
> >
> > My mother recently purchased a
> > Toshiba laptop and it has Vista on it, which she hates and wants to
> > uninstall it
> >
> > I have made a new partition on it.
> >
> > The Vista is on drive C and I have new Drive E
> >
> > When I input the cd to install XP it is stating that it cannot since there
> > is a newer verision on the laptop. If I try to reformat C and take Vista
> > off,
> > it says i can't do that since this is the operating system for the laptop
> > and
> > won't format.
> >
> > How do I remove Vista and put XP on it?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
>
>
>
date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 16:32:00 -0700
author: Laura
Re: Need help with Unistalling Vista
On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 16:32:00 -0700, Laura
wrote:
>Thanks for all the feedback, learning a lot here
Not enough, apparently....
>Isn't there a way I can put xp on the new hard drive I just partitioned?
You can do whatever you like, but it will NOT work without the proper
hardware drivers.
NOT.
>So that way vista would be on one h drive C and then xp on the other
>h drive E?
>
>The big thing here isn't that I don't want vista, it is that myh mother is
>78yrs and use to xp, she got the laptop for while in Mexico with wifi to get
>on the internet she didn't realize it had vista on it.
>
>Laura
>
>
>"DL" wrote:
>
>> *Before* you do that you need to check on Toshiba site, specifict to your
>> laptop, as to whether winxp drivers are avialable. - If they are not, and
>> they may not be, dont even try.
>> The other point of course is that you may invalidate any warranty, and, or
>> support from Tosh.
>> If it was preinstalled with a version of Vista other than Home, it may have
>> downgrade writes to winxp, assuming winxp drivers are available.
>> If you still wish to go ahead with WinXp, you would need a retail edition,
>> and you would need to boot from the winxp cd, delete all partitions, prior
>> installing winxp. Ensure you have a means of reinstalling Vista *first*
>> You cannot format a win partition within win.
>>
>> "Laura" wrote in message
>> news:08AAD293-E2AD-489C-A5C4-4681E6745C75@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi
>> >
>> > I'm new here to the forum, but great info
>> >
>> > I am not a techie at all, but know my way around
>> >
>> > My mother recently purchased a
>> > Toshiba laptop and it has Vista on it, which she hates and wants to
>> > uninstall it
>> >
>> > I have made a new partition on it.
>> >
>> > The Vista is on drive C and I have new Drive E
>> >
>> > When I input the cd to install XP it is stating that it cannot since there
>> > is a newer verision on the laptop. If I try to reformat C and take Vista
>> > off,
>> > it says i can't do that since this is the operating system for the laptop
>> > and
>> > won't format.
>> >
>> > How do I remove Vista and put XP on it?
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>>
>>
>>
date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 18:37:54 -0500
author: PD43
Re: Need help with Unistalling Vista
As I understand it, you would need to install winxp first, then install
Vista, in order to be able to dual boot - but then I'm no expert on dual
booting.
And if your Vista supplied by Tosh is in the form of a recovery disk, then
installing from that will probably put your Tosh back to 'as supplied state'
ie it may destroy all partitions so you are left with only Vista
"Laura" wrote in message
news:2A6CEFFE-EEA0-4378-BF38-3179F8A07A95@microsoft.com...
> Thanks for all the feedback, learning a lot here
>
> Isn't there a way I can put xp on the new hard drive I just partitioned?
> So that way vista would be on one h drive C and then xp on the other
> h drive E?
>
> The big thing here isn't that I don't want vista, it is that myh mother is
> 78yrs and use to xp, she got the laptop for while in Mexico with wifi to
> get
> on the internet she didn't realize it had vista on it.
>
> Laura
>
>
> "DL" wrote:
>
>> *Before* you do that you need to check on Toshiba site, specifict to your
>> laptop, as to whether winxp drivers are avialable. - If they are not, and
>> they may not be, dont even try.
>> The other point of course is that you may invalidate any warranty, and,
>> or
>> support from Tosh.
>> If it was preinstalled with a version of Vista other than Home, it may
>> have
>> downgrade writes to winxp, assuming winxp drivers are available.
>> If you still wish to go ahead with WinXp, you would need a retail
>> edition,
>> and you would need to boot from the winxp cd, delete all partitions,
>> prior
>> installing winxp. Ensure you have a means of reinstalling Vista *first*
>> You cannot format a win partition within win.
>>
>> "Laura" wrote in message
>> news:08AAD293-E2AD-489C-A5C4-4681E6745C75@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi
>> >
>> > I'm new here to the forum, but great info
>> >
>> > I am not a techie at all, but know my way around
>> >
>> > My mother recently purchased a
>> > Toshiba laptop and it has Vista on it, which she hates and wants to
>> > uninstall it
>> >
>> > I have made a new partition on it.
>> >
>> > The Vista is on drive C and I have new Drive E
>> >
>> > When I input the cd to install XP it is stating that it cannot since
>> > there
>> > is a newer verision on the laptop. If I try to reformat C and take
>> > Vista
>> > off,
>> > it says i can't do that since this is the operating system for the
>> > laptop
>> > and
>> > won't format.
>> >
>> > How do I remove Vista and put XP on it?
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>>
>>
>>
date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 11:00:16 +0100
author: DL address@invalid
Re: Need help with Unistalling Vista
You might try Ubuntu , which will make a separate partition on the
hard drive and install itself,
I find Ubuntu a close match to Windows P, but with many features you
find immediatly useful.
http://www.ubuntu.com/
I am using Ubuntu 7.04, and use it for major work
yu can either download it or ask for CD's
https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
Optomise the hard drive,
Pop the Ubuntu CD in the Drive, start it up and off you go !
Hope this helps
Chester
On Jul 5, 7:32 pm, Laura wrote:
> Thanks for all the feedback, learning a lot here
>
> Isn't there a way I can put xp on the new hard drive I just partitioned?
> So that way vista would be on one h drive C and then xp on the other
> h drive E?
>
> The big thing here isn't that I don't want vista, it is that myh mother is
> 78yrs and use to xp, she got the laptop for while in Mexico with wifi to get
> on the internet she didn't realize it had vista on it.
>
> Laura
>
> "DL" wrote:
> > *Before* you do that you need to check on Toshiba site, specifict to your
> > laptop, as to whether winxp drivers are avialable. - If they are not, and
> > they may not be, dont even try.
> > The other point of course is that you may invalidate any warranty, and, or
> > support from Tosh.
> > If it was preinstalled with a version of Vista other than Home, it may have
> > downgrade writes to winxp, assuming winxp drivers are available.
> > If you still wish to go ahead with WinXp, you would need a retail edition,
> > and you would need to boot from the winxp cd, delete all partitions, prior
> > installing winxp. Ensure you have a means of reinstalling Vista *first*
> > You cannot format a win partition within win.
>
> > "Laura" wrote in message
> >news:08AAD293-E2AD-489C-A5C4-4681E6745C75@microsoft.com...
> > > Hi
>
> > > I'm new here to the forum, but great info
>
> > > I am not a techie at all, but know my way around
>
> > > My mother recently purchased a
> > > Toshiba laptop and it has Vista on it, which she hates and wants to
> > > uninstall it
>
> > > I have made a new partition on it.
>
> > > The Vista is on drive C and I have new Drive E
>
> > > When I input the cd to install XP it is stating that it cannot since there
> > > is a newer verision on the laptop. If I try to reformat C and take Vista
> > > off,
> > > it says i can't do that since this is the operating system for the laptop
> > > and
> > > won't format.
>
> > > How do I remove Vista and put XP on it?
>
> > > Thanks
date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 06:44:59 -0700 (PDT)
author: unknown
Re: Need help with Unistalling Vista
Laura wrote:
> Hi
>
> I'm new here to the forum, but great info
>
> I am not a techie at all, but know my way around
>
> My mother recently purchased a
> Toshiba laptop and it has Vista on it, which she hates and wants to
> uninstall it
>
> I have made a new partition on it.
>
> The Vista is on drive C and I have new Drive E
>
> When I input the cd to install XP it is stating that it cannot since there
> is a newer verision on the laptop. If I try to reformat C and take Vista off,
> it says i can't do that since this is the operating system for the laptop and
> won't format.
>
> How do I remove Vista and put XP on it?
>
> Thanks
>
It's your mother's computer, so the choice is, ultimately, hers.
(Although it would have been a lot simpler to have just purchased a
computer with WinXP installed, to start with.)
However, there could be a couple possible adverse repercussions of
which you should be aware. First and foremost, if the specific computer
model in question was designed specifically for Vista, there may well be
no WinXP-specific device drivers available to make the computer's
diverse components work properly. Consult the computer's manufacturer
about the availability of device drivers. Secondly, removing an
OEM-installed operating system and replacing it with another will almost
invariably void any and all support agreements and, sometimes, even the
warranty. You would, at the very least, have to re-install Vista before
getting any support from the manufacturer. Again, consult the
computer's manufacturer for specifics. Thirdly, there may be the
additional cost involved in purchasing a WinXP license for this new
computer.
After backing up any data you wish to transfer to the new OS
installation, simply boot from the WinXP installation CD. You'll be
offered the opportunity to delete, create, and format partitions as part
of the installation process. (You may need to re-arrange the order of
boot devices in the PC's BIOS to boot from the CD.)
HOW TO Install Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;316941
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html
http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/clean_install.htm
Then, assuming you were successful in obtaining WinXP-specific
device drivers so that the computer can be made to work with WinXP, the
backed up data can be restored and applications (those that are
WinXP-compatible, that is) re-installed.
--
Bruce Chambers
Help us help you:
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They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell
The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 13:23:23 -0600
author: Bruce Chambers bchambers@cable0ne.n3t
Re: Need help with Unistalling Vista
Laura wrote:
> Thanks for all the feedback, learning a lot here
>
> Isn't there a way I can put xp on the new hard drive I just partitioned?
> So that way vista would be on one h drive C and then xp on the other
> h drive E?
>
Normally, the older OS must be installed first unless you wish to
acquire and use some 3rd-party partition and boot management utility.
(In which case you have to follow the instructions provided by whatever
3rd party solution you select.) However, this KB Article (not for the
faint of heart or technically-challenged) explains how to repair the
Vista boot process after installing WinXP:
Windows Vista no longer starts after you install an earlier version of
the Windows operating system in a dual-boot configuration
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/919529
MS-MVP John Barnett's Guide is considerably more user-friendly:
http://vistasupport.mvps.org/install_windows_xp_on_machine_running_vista.htm
Once again, though, before proceeding:
First and foremost, if the specific computer model in question was
designed specifically for Vista, there may well be no WinXP-specific
device drivers available to make the computer's diverse components work
properly. If this proves to be the case , installing WinXP in a virtual
machine would be your best option, anyway. Consult the computer's
manufacturer about the availability of device drivers. Secondly, adding
another OS might void any support agreements and, sometimes, even the
warranty. Again, consult the computer's manufacturer for specifics.
--
Bruce Chambers
Help us help you:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell
The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 13:26:25 -0600
author: Bruce Chambers bchambers@cable0ne.n3t
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