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date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:48:04 -0600,    group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_assessment        back       


KVM switches & Vista 64-bit?   
I am not sure if the issue of 'Vista compatibility' & KVM switches is a
relevant one.  (One KVM vendor I contacted claimed KVM's functioned
independently regardless of the operating system).  I would like some
reassurance because:

1. I will soon be installing Vista Ultimate 64-bit on a new PC
2. I run two W2K PCs thru an old Belkin, PS/2, KVM switch ("OmniCube
4-Port") that has never been a problem but I'd like to replace it if it
might become an issue with Vista.
3. The Microsoft Vista-ready hardware listing does not appear to include KVM
switches
4. Belkin Tech Support has failed to reassure - their responses to my
inquiries has been mixed & less than a clear 'yes' or 'no' (a Belkin tech
agt.has indicated their USB models have Vista issues)
5. I did discover that zonenetusa.com posted a Vista-ready list for their
components & they claim their model KVM3304 -  a PS/2, 4-port KVM - is
'Vista-ready' -  (That is reassuring but do I need it?)

So .  .  . can any Vista hardware guru advise if PS/2,  KVM switches
represent any relevant Vista 64-bit compatibility issues?  If so, can you
suggest what options I have to prepare for a relatively painless
installation that will continue to maintain my KVM setup?

Many thanks  -  Blithe
date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:48:04 -0600   author:   Blithe

Re: KVM switches & Vista 64-bit?   
I had looked into this for a friend and was unable to find a KVM with 64 bit drivers for vista.
32 bit was a different story.

might check with some computer stores in your area.
not like best buy and circuit city but regular stores.




mikeyhsd@sprintpcs.com



  "Blithe"  wrote in message news:ei71GEyVIHA.5396@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
  I am not sure if the issue of 'Vista compatibility' & KVM switches is a
  relevant one.  (One KVM vendor I contacted claimed KVM's functioned
  independently regardless of the operating system).  I would like some
  reassurance because:

  1. I will soon be installing Vista Ultimate 64-bit on a new PC
  2. I run two W2K PCs thru an old Belkin, PS/2, KVM switch ("OmniCube
  4-Port") that has never been a problem but I'd like to replace it if it
  might become an issue with Vista.
  3. The Microsoft Vista-ready hardware listing does not appear to include KVM
  switches
  4. Belkin Tech Support has failed to reassure - their responses to my
  inquiries has been mixed & less than a clear 'yes' or 'no' (a Belkin tech
  agt.has indicated their USB models have Vista issues)
  5. I did discover that zonenetusa.com posted a Vista-ready list for their
  components & they claim their model KVM3304 -  a PS/2, 4-port KVM - is
  'Vista-ready' -  (That is reassuring but do I need it?)

  So .  .  . can any Vista hardware guru advise if PS/2,  KVM switches
  represent any relevant Vista 64-bit compatibility issues?  If so, can you
  suggest what options I have to prepare for a relatively painless
  installation that will continue to maintain my KVM setup?

  Many thanks  -  Blithe
date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:23:28 -0600   author:   mikeyhsd

Re: KVM switches & Vista 64-bit?   
Thanks, Mike,
I just surfed again & found that Iogear and D-Link have posted 32-bit/64-bit
'Vista-ready' KVMs.  The specs for one switch claim it's OS independent.

I see no reason why my old Belkin KVM would create a Vista issue.  I'll go a
step at a time & decide when I finally hook it up.

Blithe




"mikeyhsd"  wrote in message
news:%23%231vLJ4VIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
I had looked into this for a friend and was unable to find a KVM with 64 bit
drivers for vista.
32 bit was a different story.

might check with some computer stores in your area.
not like best buy and circuit city but regular stores.




mikeyhsd@sprintpcs.com



  "Blithe"  wrote in message
news:ei71GEyVIHA.5396@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
  I am not sure if the issue of 'Vista compatibility' & KVM switches is a
  relevant one.  (One KVM vendor I contacted claimed KVM's functioned
  independently regardless of the operating system).  I would like some
  reassurance because:

  1. I will soon be installing Vista Ultimate 64-bit on a new PC
  2. I run two W2K PCs thru an old Belkin, PS/2, KVM switch ("OmniCube
  4-Port") that has never been a problem but I'd like to replace it if it
  might become an issue with Vista.
  3. The Microsoft Vista-ready hardware listing does not appear to include
KVM
  switches
  4. Belkin Tech Support has failed to reassure - their responses to my
  inquiries has been mixed & less than a clear 'yes' or 'no' (a Belkin tech
  agt.has indicated their USB models have Vista issues)
  5. I did discover that zonenetusa.com posted a Vista-ready list for their
  components & they claim their model KVM3304 -  a PS/2, 4-port KVM - is
  'Vista-ready' -  (That is reassuring but do I need it?)

  So .  .  . can any Vista hardware guru advise if PS/2,  KVM switches
  represent any relevant Vista 64-bit compatibility issues?  If so, can you
  suggest what options I have to prepare for a relatively painless
  installation that will continue to maintain my KVM setup?

  Many thanks  -  Blithe
date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:57:45 -0600   author:   Blithe

Re: KVM switches & Vista 64-bit?   
it all depends on how the switching is done.
via program or manual with a switch.
by program, you need drivers and that is where the problem arises.
by switch you need to insure you have a break before make switching so as not to cause dual connections.



mikeyhsd@sprintpcs.com



  "Blithe"  wrote in message news:uOfXjG8VIHA.4696@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
  Thanks, Mike,
  I just surfed again & found that Iogear and D-Link have posted 32-bit/64-bit
  'Vista-ready' KVMs.  The specs for one switch claim it's OS independent.

  I see no reason why my old Belkin KVM would create a Vista issue.  I'll go a
  step at a time & decide when I finally hook it up.

  Blithe




  "mikeyhsd"  wrote in message
  news:%23%231vLJ4VIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
  I had looked into this for a friend and was unable to find a KVM with 64 bit
  drivers for vista.
  32 bit was a different story.

  might check with some computer stores in your area.
  not like best buy and circuit city but regular stores.




  mikeyhsd@sprintpcs.com



    "Blithe"  wrote in message
  news:ei71GEyVIHA.5396@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    I am not sure if the issue of 'Vista compatibility' & KVM switches is a
    relevant one.  (One KVM vendor I contacted claimed KVM's functioned
    independently regardless of the operating system).  I would like some
    reassurance because:

    1. I will soon be installing Vista Ultimate 64-bit on a new PC
    2. I run two W2K PCs thru an old Belkin, PS/2, KVM switch ("OmniCube
    4-Port") that has never been a problem but I'd like to replace it if it
    might become an issue with Vista.
    3. The Microsoft Vista-ready hardware listing does not appear to include
  KVM
    switches
    4. Belkin Tech Support has failed to reassure - their responses to my
    inquiries has been mixed & less than a clear 'yes' or 'no' (a Belkin tech
    agt.has indicated their USB models have Vista issues)
    5. I did discover that zonenetusa.com posted a Vista-ready list for their
    components & they claim their model KVM3304 -  a PS/2, 4-port KVM - is
    'Vista-ready' -  (That is reassuring but do I need it?)

    So .  .  . can any Vista hardware guru advise if PS/2,  KVM switches
    represent any relevant Vista 64-bit compatibility issues?  If so, can you
    suggest what options I have to prepare for a relatively painless
    installation that will continue to maintain my KVM setup?

    Many thanks  -  Blithe
date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:45:36 -0600   author:   mikeyhsd

Re: KVM switches & Vista 64-bit?   
I am sure that you are correct, Mike.  Any interactive programming controls
will require the drivers.  My Belkin came with no software.  The switching
is manual by a toggle switch that loops thru port 1 to 4 and back again.
(Some users complain about the beep at each port change.)  I probably have
nothing to worry about.  I strongly suspect that PC component makers/sellers
are posting Vista-ready icons for many of their products that obviously will
prove not to have any compatibility issues.  That's just a smart marketing
strategy.

Blithe




"mikeyhsd"  wrote in message
news:OGWtVD9VIHA.2304@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
it all depends on how the switching is done.
via program or manual with a switch.
by program, you need drivers and that is where the problem arises.
by switch you need to insure you have a break before make switching so as
not to cause dual connections.



mikeyhsd@sprintpcs.com



  "Blithe"  wrote in message
news:uOfXjG8VIHA.4696@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
  Thanks, Mike,
  I just surfed again & found that Iogear and D-Link have posted
32-bit/64-bit
  'Vista-ready' KVMs.  The specs for one switch claim it's OS independent.

  I see no reason why my old Belkin KVM would create a Vista issue.  I'll go
a
  step at a time & decide when I finally hook it up.

  Blithe




  "mikeyhsd"  wrote in message
  news:%23%231vLJ4VIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
  I had looked into this for a friend and was unable to find a KVM with 64
bit
  drivers for vista.
  32 bit was a different story.

  might check with some computer stores in your area.
  not like best buy and circuit city but regular stores.




  mikeyhsd@sprintpcs.com



    "Blithe"  wrote in message
  news:ei71GEyVIHA.5396@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    I am not sure if the issue of 'Vista compatibility' & KVM switches is a
    relevant one.  (One KVM vendor I contacted claimed KVM's functioned
    independently regardless of the operating system).  I would like some
    reassurance because:

    1. I will soon be installing Vista Ultimate 64-bit on a new PC
    2. I run two W2K PCs thru an old Belkin, PS/2, KVM switch ("OmniCube
    4-Port") that has never been a problem but I'd like to replace it if it
    might become an issue with Vista.
    3. The Microsoft Vista-ready hardware listing does not appear to include
  KVM
    switches
    4. Belkin Tech Support has failed to reassure - their responses to my
    inquiries has been mixed & less than a clear 'yes' or 'no' (a Belkin
tech
    agt.has indicated their USB models have Vista issues)
    5. I did discover that zonenetusa.com posted a Vista-ready list for
their
    components & they claim their model KVM3304 -  a PS/2, 4-port KVM - is
    'Vista-ready' -  (That is reassuring but do I need it?)

    So .  .  . can any Vista hardware guru advise if PS/2,  KVM switches
    represent any relevant Vista 64-bit compatibility issues?  If so, can
you
    suggest what options I have to prepare for a relatively painless
    installation that will continue to maintain my KVM setup?

    Many thanks  -  Blithe
date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:27:49 -0600   author:   Blithe

Re: KVM switches & Vista 64-bit?   
probably, almost anything to try and get more $ from you.



mikeyhsd@sprintpcs.com



  "Blithe"  wrote in message news:ecdc779VIHA.4448@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
  I am sure that you are correct, Mike.  Any interactive programming controls
  will require the drivers.  My Belkin came with no software.  The switching
  is manual by a toggle switch that loops thru port 1 to 4 and back again.
  (Some users complain about the beep at each port change.)  I probably have
  nothing to worry about.  I strongly suspect that PC component makers/sellers
  are posting Vista-ready icons for many of their products that obviously will
  prove not to have any compatibility issues.  That's just a smart marketing
  strategy.

  Blithe




  "mikeyhsd"  wrote in message
  news:OGWtVD9VIHA.2304@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
  it all depends on how the switching is done.
  via program or manual with a switch.
  by program, you need drivers and that is where the problem arises.
  by switch you need to insure you have a break before make switching so as
  not to cause dual connections.



  mikeyhsd@sprintpcs.com



    "Blithe"  wrote in message
  news:uOfXjG8VIHA.4696@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    Thanks, Mike,
    I just surfed again & found that Iogear and D-Link have posted
  32-bit/64-bit
    'Vista-ready' KVMs.  The specs for one switch claim it's OS independent.

    I see no reason why my old Belkin KVM would create a Vista issue.  I'll go
  a
    step at a time & decide when I finally hook it up.

    Blithe




    "mikeyhsd"  wrote in message
    news:%23%231vLJ4VIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    I had looked into this for a friend and was unable to find a KVM with 64
  bit
    drivers for vista.
    32 bit was a different story.

    might check with some computer stores in your area.
    not like best buy and circuit city but regular stores.




    mikeyhsd@sprintpcs.com



      "Blithe"  wrote in message
    news:ei71GEyVIHA.5396@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
      I am not sure if the issue of 'Vista compatibility' & KVM switches is a
      relevant one.  (One KVM vendor I contacted claimed KVM's functioned
      independently regardless of the operating system).  I would like some
      reassurance because:

      1. I will soon be installing Vista Ultimate 64-bit on a new PC
      2. I run two W2K PCs thru an old Belkin, PS/2, KVM switch ("OmniCube
      4-Port") that has never been a problem but I'd like to replace it if it
      might become an issue with Vista.
      3. The Microsoft Vista-ready hardware listing does not appear to include
    KVM
      switches
      4. Belkin Tech Support has failed to reassure - their responses to my
      inquiries has been mixed & less than a clear 'yes' or 'no' (a Belkin
  tech
      agt.has indicated their USB models have Vista issues)
      5. I did discover that zonenetusa.com posted a Vista-ready list for
  their
      components & they claim their model KVM3304 -  a PS/2, 4-port KVM - is
      'Vista-ready' -  (That is reassuring but do I need it?)

      So .  .  . can any Vista hardware guru advise if PS/2,  KVM switches
      represent any relevant Vista 64-bit compatibility issues?  If so, can
  you
      suggest what options I have to prepare for a relatively painless
      installation that will continue to maintain my KVM setup?

      Many thanks  -  Blithe
date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:39:37 -0600   author:   mikeyhsd

RE: KVM switches & Vista 64-bit?   
Hi there!

I found your posting through looking and searching for answers to....
How to get Windows Vista Ultimate to work with the Belkin OmniCube 4-Port 
switch?

Well, the fact that I am posting this question will tell you that 'yes, 
there is a problem with Windows Vista support for Belkin OmniCube 4-Port 
switch, and more than likely, yes, there is a problem with Windows Vista and 
any multiple computer switch boxes.

While I agree, that the Belkin OmniCube 4-Port switch does support any 
operating system, Windows Vista does not support the Belkin OmniCube 4-Port 
switch.

Well, you may think - that's a strange comment...

I have spent half a day now trying to figure this all out, and the source of 
all problems seems to be the "smart monitor detection of Windows Vista", or, 
the smart hardware detection of Windows Vista.

The problem is the following: When I connect both monitors, digital and VGA 
to the docking station of my Dell Precision M60 laptop directly, then both 
monitors (through a combination of using FN+F8 and the monitor settings in 
the control panel) start to work. Also, if I then unplug the VGA cable from 
connecting monitor 1 directly and instead reroute the VGA cable through the 
Belkin OmniCube 4-port switch, then Windows Vista immediately starts the 
whole monitor scanning process all over. Interestingly enough, it picks up 
monitor 1 rerouted through the Belkin OmniPort switch (and the correct port 
being active - of course) and keeps the digital monitor active too.
However, as soon as I switch to a different computer, the Belkin OmniPort 
4-port switch naturally will turn off the VGA monitor for the Windows Vista 
laptop, which again will cause the Windows Vista laptop to scan for monitors, 
now turning the dual view off and using the digital monitor only. When I 
scroll through the computers and back to said Windows Vista laptop, Vista 
won't recognize the dual screen again.

Unless I am able to turn off the monitor scan (or other hardware scan) and 
just safe monitor settings as are for the Windows Vista box so I can use the 
Belkin OmniCube 4-port and scroll through computers and back to the Vista box 
using both 
monitors, I will restore my Windows XP Professional GHost image as Windows 
XP worked just like a charm in that setup constellation.

It may not help you any further with your setup but definitely give ideas of 
what to expect.

Regards,
Wolfgang


"Blithe" wrote:

> I am not sure if the issue of 'Vista compatibility' & KVM switches is a
> relevant one.  (One KVM vendor I contacted claimed KVM's functioned
> independently regardless of the operating system).  I would like some
> reassurance because:
> 
> 1. I will soon be installing Vista Ultimate 64-bit on a new PC
> 2. I run two W2K PCs thru an old Belkin, PS/2, KVM switch ("OmniCube
> 4-Port") that has never been a problem but I'd like to replace it if it
> might become an issue with Vista.
> 3. The Microsoft Vista-ready hardware listing does not appear to include KVM
> switches
> 4. Belkin Tech Support has failed to reassure - their responses to my
> inquiries has been mixed & less than a clear 'yes' or 'no' (a Belkin tech
> agt.has indicated their USB models have Vista issues)
> 5. I did discover that zonenetusa.com posted a Vista-ready list for their
> components & they claim their model KVM3304 -  a PS/2, 4-port KVM - is
> 'Vista-ready' -  (That is reassuring but do I need it?)
> 
> So .  .  . can any Vista hardware guru advise if PS/2,  KVM switches
> represent any relevant Vista 64-bit compatibility issues?  If so, can you
> suggest what options I have to prepare for a relatively painless
> installation that will continue to maintain my KVM setup?
> 
> Many thanks  -  Blithe
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 10:02:01 -0800   author:   Wolfgang Kaml

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