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date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:02:35 -0500,    group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_assessment        back       


Which disk image creation software is good for Vista?   
Hello,
In previous years I used Ghost to create the image of my harddrive.
It was simple, easy procedure and very fast.
I booted up computer to the command prompt and restored harddrive in few 
minutes!!!
But it was FAT32 system.
Now, with Vista I do not have a choice but to use NTSF file system.
Which program offers the most features for disk image creation?
I know it will be impossible for me to restore image from command boot 
option, but what the options I have?
Can I for example take the harddrive to another computer and restore the 
image in there?
Or create bootable CD (DVD?) and restore the image that way?
Or I have to first install Windows and then restore?
What are the options?
Your experience is welcomed,
Jack
date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:02:35 -0500   author:   Jack replyto@it

Re: Which disk image creation software is good for Vista?   
Jack wrote:
> Hello,
> In previous years I used Ghost to create the image of my harddrive.
> It was simple, easy procedure and very fast.
> I booted up computer to the command prompt and restored harddrive in few 
> minutes!!!
> But it was FAT32 system.
> Now, with Vista I do not have a choice but to use NTSF file system.
> Which program offers the most features for disk image creation?
> I know it will be impossible for me to restore image from command boot 
> option, but what the options I have?
> Can I for example take the harddrive to another computer and restore the 
> image in there?
> Or create bootable CD (DVD?) and restore the image that way?
> Or I have to first install Windows and then restore?
> What are the options?
> Your experience is welcomed,
> Jack 
> 
> 

I highly recommend Acronis True Image.


Malke
-- 
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:12:53 -0800   author:   Malke lid

Re: Which disk image creation software is good for Vista?   
"Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message 
news:Oh1Rm2%23UIHA.6060@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Hello,
> In previous years I used Ghost to create the image of my harddrive.
> It was simple, easy procedure and very fast.
> I booted up computer to the command prompt and restored harddrive in few 
> minutes!!!
> But it was FAT32 system.
> Now, with Vista I do not have a choice but to use NTSF file system.
> Which program offers the most features for disk image creation?
> I know it will be impossible for me to restore image from command boot 
> option, but what the options I have?
> Can I for example take the harddrive to another computer and restore the 
> image in there?
> Or create bootable CD (DVD?) and restore the image that way?
> Or I have to first install Windows and then restore?
> What are the options?
> Your experience is welcomed,
> Jack
>


Ghost has been compatible with NTFS file system for a number of versions.
Ghost Version 12 is Vista compatible.
The Ghost installation CD has  been bootable for a number of versions. You 
may need to reset your BIOS to boot from CD. If you have more than one 
DVD/CD drive only one will be boot capable {in a tower system it is usually 
the top drive}.

I recently changed to Acronis True Image for a new computer. So far I like 
it; but have not needed to use it to restore. I did a number of restores 
with Ghost versions 10 thru 12. For non-Windows drive or a drive with Ghost 
installed, I could restore from within Windows.

Don
date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:27:30 -0500   author:   dgmacmi

Re: Which disk image creation software is good for Vista?   
I also VERY highly recommend Acronis True Image, as much as it grieves me to 
agree with Malke on something.  :)

"Malke" <notreally@invalid.invalid> wrote in message 
news:e24UY8%23UIHA.3364@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Jack wrote:
>> Hello,
>> In previous years I used Ghost to create the image of my harddrive.
>> It was simple, easy procedure and very fast.
>> I booted up computer to the command prompt and restored harddrive in few 
>> minutes!!!
>> But it was FAT32 system.
>> Now, with Vista I do not have a choice but to use NTSF file system.
>> Which program offers the most features for disk image creation?
>> I know it will be impossible for me to restore image from command boot 
>> option, but what the options I have?
>> Can I for example take the harddrive to another computer and restore the 
>> image in there?
>> Or create bootable CD (DVD?) and restore the image that way?
>> Or I have to first install Windows and then restore?
>> What are the options?
>> Your experience is welcomed,
>> Jack
>
> I highly recommend Acronis True Image.
>
>
> Malke
> -- 
> Elephant Boy Computers
> www.elephantboycomputers.com
> "Don't Panic!"
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:29:06 -0700   author:   Colin Barnhorst

Re: Which disk image creation software is good for Vista?   
"Colin Barnhorst"  wrote in message
news:D683C85B-1185-4605-B079-1EB2C77E70B3@microsoft.com...
> I also VERY highly recommend Acronis True Image, as much as it grieves me
to
> agree with Malke on something.  :)


I also use Acronis...
it works very well
date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:35:07 -0600   author:   philo

Re: Which disk image creation software is good for Vista?   
I recently downloaded and installed WinImage Pro for 60 bucks. Haven't had a 
chance to really figure out how the little devil works.

How does it measure up with Acronis.?

Before I downloaded it I frantically searched the web for comparative 
information and was quite confused.

Thanks.

"Colin Barnhorst"  wrote in message 
news:D683C85B-1185-4605-B079-
>> I highly recommend Acronis True Image.
>>
>>
>> Malke
>> -- 
>> Elephant Boy Computers
>> www.elephantboycomputers.com
>> "Don't Panic!"
>> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>
date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:51:48 -0500   author:   AlexB

Re: Which disk image creation software is good for Vista?   
Jack wrote:
> Hello,
> In previous years I used Ghost to create the image of my harddrive.
> It was simple, easy procedure and very fast.
> I booted up computer to the command prompt and restored harddrive in few 
> minutes!!!
> But it was FAT32 system.
> Now, with Vista I do not have a choice but to use NTSF file system.
> Which program offers the most features for disk image creation?
> I know it will be impossible for me to restore image from command boot 
> option, but what the options I have?
> Can I for example take the harddrive to another computer and restore the 
> image in there?
> Or create bootable CD (DVD?) and restore the image that way?
> Or I have to first install Windows and then restore?
> What are the options?
> Your experience is welcomed,
> Jack 
> 
> 

Which version of Vista do you have?

If that version is > Home Premium, I highly recommend native "Complete 
PC Backup and Restore". Excellent programme.
date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:11:24 -0500   author:   Iain

Re: Which disk image creation software is good for Vista?   
Iain wrote:
> Jack wrote:
>> Hello,
>> In previous years I used Ghost to create the image of my harddrive.
>> It was simple, easy procedure and very fast.
>> I booted up computer to the command prompt and restored harddrive in 
>> few minutes!!!
>> But it was FAT32 system.
>> Now, with Vista I do not have a choice but to use NTSF file system.
>> Which program offers the most features for disk image creation?
>> I know it will be impossible for me to restore image from command boot 
>> option, but what the options I have?
>> Can I for example take the harddrive to another computer and restore 
>> the image in there?
>> Or create bootable CD (DVD?) and restore the image that way?
>> Or I have to first install Windows and then restore?
>> What are the options?
>> Your experience is welcomed,
>> Jack
>>
> 
> Which version of Vista do you have?
> 
> If that version is > Home Premium, I highly recommend native "Complete 
> PC Backup and Restore". Excellent programme.

Business, Ultimate and Enterprise only, correct? Not Home Premium.

-- 
Dave T.

"Many people die at twenty-five and aren't buried
until they are seventy-five".
             Benjamin Franklin
date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:17:48 -0800   author:   Dave T.

Re: Which disk image creation software is good for Vista?   
Like Acronis and Ghost, BootItNG will make and restore images.
It restores from its boot GUI and handles image CDs and DVDs.
Priced at $35: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=BootItNG

"Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message 
news:Oh1Rm2%23UIHA.6060@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Hello,
> In previous years I used Ghost to create the image of my harddrive.
> It was simple, easy procedure and very fast.
> I booted up computer to the command prompt and restored harddrive in few 
> minutes!!!
> But it was FAT32 system.
> Now, with Vista I do not have a choice but to use NTSF file system.
> Which program offers the most features for disk image creation?
> I know it will be impossible for me to restore image from command boot option, 
> but what the options I have?
> Can I for example take the harddrive to another computer and restore the image 
> in there?
> Or create bootable CD (DVD?) and restore the image that way?
> Or I have to first install Windows and then restore?
> What are the options?
> Your experience is welcomed,
> Jack
>
date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:38:04 -0600   author:   Michael Jennings

Re: Which disk image creation software is good for Vista?   
Dave T. wrote:
> Iain wrote:
>> Jack wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> In previous years I used Ghost to create the image of my harddrive.
>>> It was simple, easy procedure and very fast.
>>> I booted up computer to the command prompt and restored harddrive in 
>>> few minutes!!!
>>> But it was FAT32 system.
>>> Now, with Vista I do not have a choice but to use NTSF file system.
>>> Which program offers the most features for disk image creation?
>>> I know it will be impossible for me to restore image from command 
>>> boot option, but what the options I have?
>>> Can I for example take the harddrive to another computer and restore 
>>> the image in there?
>>> Or create bootable CD (DVD?) and restore the image that way?
>>> Or I have to first install Windows and then restore?
>>> What are the options?
>>> Your experience is welcomed,
>>> Jack
>>>
>>
>> Which version of Vista do you have?
>>
>> If that version is > Home Premium, I highly recommend native "Complete 
>> PC Backup and Restore". Excellent programme.
> 
> Business, Ultimate and Enterprise only, correct? Not Home Premium.
> 

Correct.
date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:54:48 -0500   author:   Iain

Re: Which disk image creation software is good for Vista?   
In article <e24UY8#UIHA.3364@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>,
Malke  <notreally@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>I highly recommend Acronis True Image.
>

	Boot your Linux partition and make a copy of the filesystem with dd
date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 02:55:20 +0000 (UTC)   author:   (the wharf rat)

Re: Which disk image creation software is good for Vista?   
>
> Which version of Vista do you have?
>
> If that version is > Home Premium, I highly recommend native "Complete PC 
> Backup and Restore". Excellent programme.


I agree it does a good job. The problem is it doesn't compress the image. 
Acronis True Image, Norton Ghost, etc. offer varying levels of compression 
so that more images can be stored.

-- 
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/
date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:07:14 -0800   author:   Kerry Brown kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m

Re: Which disk image creation software is good for Vista?   
"Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message 
news:Oh1Rm2%23UIHA.6060@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Hello,
> In previous years I used Ghost to create the image of my harddrive.
> It was simple, easy procedure and very fast.
> I booted up computer to the command prompt and restored harddrive in few 
> minutes!!!
> But it was FAT32 system.
> Now, with Vista I do not have a choice but to use NTSF file system.
> Which program offers the most features for disk image creation?
> I know it will be impossible for me to restore image from command boot 
> option, but what the options I have?
> Can I for example take the harddrive to another computer and restore the 
> image in there?
> Or create bootable CD (DVD?) and restore the image that way?
> Or I have to first install Windows and then restore?
> What are the options?
> Your experience is welcomed,
> Jack
>

One word:  Acronis.  It has the most robust boot CD available (written in 
Linux).
date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:43:32 -0800   author:   Telstar none@none

RE: Which disk image creation software is good for Vista?   
"Jack" wrote:

> Hello,
> In previous years I used Ghost to create the image of my harddrive.
> It was simple, easy procedure and very fast.
> I booted up computer to the command prompt and restored harddrive in few 
> minutes!!!
> But it was FAT32 system.
> Now, with Vista I do not have a choice but to use NTSF file system.
> Which program offers the most features for disk image creation?
> I know it will be impossible for me to restore image from command boot 
> option, but what the options I have?
> Can I for example take the harddrive to another computer and restore the 
> image in there?
> Or create bootable CD (DVD?) and restore the image that way?
> Or I have to first install Windows and then restore?
> What are the options?
> Your experience is welcomed,
> Jack 
> 
> 
> 


Acronis True Image

C.B.
date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:47:23 -0800   author:   CB

Re: Which disk image creation software is good for Vista?   
"Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message 
news:Oh1Rm2%23UIHA.6060@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Hello,
> In previous years I used Ghost to create the image of my harddrive.
> It was simple, easy procedure and very fast.
> I booted up computer to the command prompt and restored harddrive in few 
> minutes!!!
> But it was FAT32 system.

That shouldn't be an issue anymore.

> Now, with Vista I do not have a choice but to use NTSF file system.
> Which program offers the most features for disk image creation?
> I know it will be impossible for me to restore image from command boot 
> option, but what the options I have?
> Can I for example take the harddrive to another computer and restore the 
> image in there?

If you have the imaging software installed on that PC and have the stored 
image file, yes.


> Or create bootable CD (DVD?) and restore the image that way?
> Or I have to first install Windows and then restore?

If you have to install Windows first, you didn't image, you backed up 
specific files.

> What are the options?
> Your experience is welcomed,
> Jack

Would suggest Acronis TrueImage.  Very flexible, not expensive, fast and 
easy to use.   I use it all the time for service tasks, and can generally 
create an image of a hard disk in under half an hour including moving the 
drive to my host system.

HTH
-pk
date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 23:56:54 -0500   author:   Patrick Keenan

Re: Which disk image creation software is good for Vista?   
"Telstar" <none@none> wrote in message 
news:eeB6GyAVIHA.4740@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message 
> news:Oh1Rm2%23UIHA.6060@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Hello,
>> In previous years I used Ghost to create the image of my harddrive.
>> It was simple, easy procedure and very fast.
>> I booted up computer to the command prompt and restored harddrive in few 
>> minutes!!!
>> But it was FAT32 system.
>> Now, with Vista I do not have a choice but to use NTSF file system.
>> Which program offers the most features for disk image creation?
>> I know it will be impossible for me to restore image from command boot 
>> option, but what the options I have?
>> Can I for example take the harddrive to another computer and restore the 
>> image in there?
>> Or create bootable CD (DVD?) and restore the image that way?
>> Or I have to first install Windows and then restore?
>> What are the options?
>> Your experience is welcomed,
>> Jack
>>
>
> One word:  Acronis.  It has the most robust boot CD available (written in 
> Linux).
>
>

That must be the reason why it could not find a ext usb DVD drive to boot 
from huh ? Installed a IDE which it would boot, But then it could not find 
the drive which had the Image. Biggest POS There is.

Installed Ghost. Saw USB drive and also the IDE Hard Drive.
date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 05:36:52 GMT   author:   Kevin Weaver

Re: Which disk image creation software is good for Vista?   
"Patrick Keenan"  a écrit dans le message de 
news:OxoSi5AVIHA.4448@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message 
> news:Oh1Rm2%23UIHA.6060@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Hello,
>> In previous years I used Ghost to create the image of my harddrive.
>> It was simple, easy procedure and very fast.
>> I booted up computer to the command prompt and restored harddrive in few 
>> minutes!!!
>> But it was FAT32 system.
>
> That shouldn't be an issue anymore.
>
>> Now, with Vista I do not have a choice but to use NTSF file system.
>> Which program offers the most features for disk image creation?
>> I know it will be impossible for me to restore image from command boot 
>> option, but what the options I have?
>> Can I for example take the harddrive to another computer and restore the 
>> image in there?
>
> If you have the imaging software installed on that PC and have the stored 
> image file, yes.
>
>
>> Or create bootable CD (DVD?) and restore the image that way?
>> Or I have to first install Windows and then restore?
>
> If you have to install Windows first, you didn't image, you backed up 
> specific files.
>
>> What are the options?
>> Your experience is welcomed,
>> Jack
>
> Would suggest Acronis TrueImage.  Very flexible, not expensive, fast and 
> easy to use.   I use it all the time for service tasks, and can generally 
> create an image of a hard disk in under half an hour including moving the 
> drive to my host system.
>
> HTH
> -pk



I also mentioned Ghost andAcronis earlier in this newsgroup.
For some reason of my own I now use Ghost, but
Acronis is a really good utility.  Not expensive and easy to use.
I really do not know which one to recommend.  Both !
date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:05:03 -0500   author:   cqui3

Re: Which disk image creation software is good for Vista?   
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:02:35 -0500, "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote:

>Hello,
>In previous years I used Ghost to create the image of my harddrive.
>It was simple, easy procedure and very fast.
>I booted up computer to the command prompt and restored harddrive in few 
>minutes!!!

Hello,
Ghost 12.0 is very good. Also for Vista and NTFS. Some versions
between old DOS Ghost and Ghost 12.0 were imho not good.

Bernie
date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 20:48:42 +0100   author:   Bernie Sterzenbach

Re: Which disk image creation software is good for Vista?   
Thank you all.
I have tried it and I am very disapointed with Ghost 12.
Or I do not know how to use it or it does not create disk image as a single 
file.
What it does it just copy one drive into another one, which is not the same 
as creating an image I can do with it what I want.
I am trying now Acronis and will report that later.
Jack


"Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message 
news:Oh1Rm2%23UIHA.6060@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Hello,
> In previous years I used Ghost to create the image of my harddrive.
> It was simple, easy procedure and very fast.
> I booted up computer to the command prompt and restored harddrive in few 
> minutes!!!
> But it was FAT32 system.
> Now, with Vista I do not have a choice but to use NTSF file system.
> Which program offers the most features for disk image creation?
> I know it will be impossible for me to restore image from command boot 
> option, but what the options I have?
> Can I for example take the harddrive to another computer and restore the 
> image in there?
> Or create bootable CD (DVD?) and restore the image that way?
> Or I have to first install Windows and then restore?
> What are the options?
> Your experience is welcomed,
> Jack
>
date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 21:38:26 -0500   author:   Jack replyto@it

Re: Which disk image creation software is good for Vista?   
Acronis is what I like.
It created compressed .tdb file (6.8 GB) out from my C drive (180 GB).
I restored that file to another drive (20 GB) and booted computer 
successfully with it.
Interestingly, when trying Ghost and choosing 'Copy Files' option Ghost 
refused proceeding with that operation complaining that my 20 GB drive is 
too small!!!!
Acronis wins!!!!
Jack

"Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message 
news:%23UV$1QMVIHA.5524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Thank you all.
> I have tried it and I am very disapointed with Ghost 12.
> Or I do not know how to use it or it does not create disk image as a 
> single file.
> What it does it just copy one drive into another one, which is not the 
> same as creating an image I can do with it what I want.
> I am trying now Acronis and will report that later.
> Jack
>
>
> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message 
> news:Oh1Rm2%23UIHA.6060@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Hello,
>> In previous years I used Ghost to create the image of my harddrive.
>> It was simple, easy procedure and very fast.
>> I booted up computer to the command prompt and restored harddrive in few 
>> minutes!!!
>> But it was FAT32 system.
>> Now, with Vista I do not have a choice but to use NTSF file system.
>> Which program offers the most features for disk image creation?
>> I know it will be impossible for me to restore image from command boot 
>> option, but what the options I have?
>> Can I for example take the harddrive to another computer and restore the 
>> image in there?
>> Or create bootable CD (DVD?) and restore the image that way?
>> Or I have to first install Windows and then restore?
>> What are the options?
>> Your experience is welcomed,
>> Jack
>>
>
>
date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:23:13 -0500   author:   Jack replyto@it

Re: Which disk image creation software is good for Vista?   
You did not say why, but now I know.
Please see the bottom of this thread.
Jack

"Malke" <notreally@invalid.invalid> wrote in message 
news:e24UY8%23UIHA.3364@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Jack wrote:
>> Hello,
>> In previous years I used Ghost to create the image of my harddrive.
>> It was simple, easy procedure and very fast.
>> I booted up computer to the command prompt and restored harddrive in few 
>> minutes!!!
>> But it was FAT32 system.
>> Now, with Vista I do not have a choice but to use NTSF file system.
>> Which program offers the most features for disk image creation?
>> I know it will be impossible for me to restore image from command boot 
>> option, but what the options I have?
>> Can I for example take the harddrive to another computer and restore the 
>> image in there?
>> Or create bootable CD (DVD?) and restore the image that way?
>> Or I have to first install Windows and then restore?
>> What are the options?
>> Your experience is welcomed,
>> Jack
>
> I highly recommend Acronis True Image.
>
>
> Malke
> -- 
> Elephant Boy Computers
> www.elephantboycomputers.com
> "Don't Panic!"
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 11:30:50 -0500   author:   Jack replyto@it

Re: Which disk image creation software is good for Vista?   
Ghost 12 does not create a single file image anymore, or I do not know how 
to use it.
Acronis does.
Jack
"dgmacmi<>"  wrote in message 
news:uYWKLF$UIHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message 
> news:Oh1Rm2%23UIHA.6060@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Hello,
>> In previous years I used Ghost to create the image of my harddrive.
>> It was simple, easy procedure and very fast.
>> I booted up computer to the command prompt and restored harddrive in few 
>> minutes!!!
>> But it was FAT32 system.
>> Now, with Vista I do not have a choice but to use NTSF file system.
>> Which program offers the most features for disk image creation?
>> I know it will be impossible for me to restore image from command boot 
>> option, but what the options I have?
>> Can I for example take the harddrive to another computer and restore the 
>> image in there?
>> Or create bootable CD (DVD?) and restore the image that way?
>> Or I have to first install Windows and then restore?
>> What are the options?
>> Your experience is welcomed,
>> Jack
>>
>
>
> Ghost has been compatible with NTFS file system for a number of versions.
> Ghost Version 12 is Vista compatible.
> The Ghost installation CD has  been bootable for a number of versions. You 
> may need to reset your BIOS to boot from CD. If you have more than one 
> DVD/CD drive only one will be boot capable {in a tower system it is 
> usually the top drive}.
>
> I recently changed to Acronis True Image for a new computer. So far I like 
> it; but have not needed to use it to restore. I did a number of restores 
> with Ghost versions 10 thru 12. For non-Windows drive or a drive with 
> Ghost installed, I could restore from within Windows.
>
> Don
date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 11:33:10 -0500   author:   Jack replyto@it

Re: Which disk image creation software is good for Vista?   
Ghost 12 compresses?
Can you guide me please how to do that?
I can find only 'Copy Files' option.
Jack

"Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message 
news:ACEF505D-8D12-44B4-A875-60D2369A3E11@microsoft.com...
> >
>> Which version of Vista do you have?
>>
>> If that version is > Home Premium, I highly recommend native "Complete PC 
>> Backup and Restore". Excellent programme.
>
>
> I agree it does a good job. The problem is it doesn't compress the image. 
> Acronis True Image, Norton Ghost, etc. offer varying levels of compression 
> so that more images can be stored.
>
> -- 
> Kerry Brown
> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
> http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/
>
>
>
date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 11:35:54 -0500   author:   Jack replyto@it

Re: Which disk image creation software is good for Vista?   
>
> I also mentioned Ghost andAcronis earlier in this newsgroup.
> For some reason of my own I now use Ghost, but
> Acronis is a really good utility.  Not expensive and easy to use.
> I really do not know which one to recommend.  Both !
>

Ghost 12 ? Can you create single file compressed image using it?
How?
date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 11:41:21 -0500   author:   Jack replyto@it

Re: Which disk image creation software is good for Vista?   
"Bernie Sterzenbach"  wrote in message 
news:lohfo3haunum2pkocmjllubrd8d8kle2ho@4ax.com...
>
> Hello,
> Ghost 12.0 is very good. Also for Vista and NTFS. Some versions
> between old DOS Ghost and Ghost 12.0 were imho not good.
>
> Bernie

What is good with it?
Does it produce a single file compressed image?
date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 11:43:11 -0500   author:   Jack replyto@it

Re: Which disk image creation software is good for Vista?   
Apparently you have only looked at the File and folder backup function in 
Ghost 12.  Go back and look at the Drive-based backup function.  That's 
where you find the compressed image capability.  You can do either kind of 
backup.

"Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message 
news:%238Cr2oTVIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
> "Bernie Sterzenbach"  wrote in message 
> news:lohfo3haunum2pkocmjllubrd8d8kle2ho@4ax.com...
>>
>> Hello,
>> Ghost 12.0 is very good. Also for Vista and NTFS. Some versions
>> between old DOS Ghost and Ghost 12.0 were imho not good.
>>
>> Bernie
>
> What is good with it?
> Does it produce a single file compressed image?
>
date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 10:16:16 -0700   author:   Colin Barnhorst

Re: Which disk image creation software is good for Vista?   
It does on my copmputer.

"Jack" <replyto@it> a écrit dans le message de 
news:%23YGKQjTVIHA.5816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Ghost 12 does not create a single file image anymore, or I do not know how 
> to use it.
> Acronis does.
> Jack
> "dgmacmi<>"  wrote in message 
> news:uYWKLF$UIHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message 
>> news:Oh1Rm2%23UIHA.6060@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Hello,
>>> In previous years I used Ghost to create the image of my harddrive.
>>> It was simple, easy procedure and very fast.
>>> I booted up computer to the command prompt and restored harddrive in few 
>>> minutes!!!
>>> But it was FAT32 system.
>>> Now, with Vista I do not have a choice but to use NTSF file system.
>>> Which program offers the most features for disk image creation?
>>> I know it will be impossible for me to restore image from command boot 
>>> option, but what the options I have?
>>> Can I for example take the harddrive to another computer and restore the 
>>> image in there?
>>> Or create bootable CD (DVD?) and restore the image that way?
>>> Or I have to first install Windows and then restore?
>>> What are the options?
>>> Your experience is welcomed,
>>> Jack
>>>
>>
>>
>> Ghost has been compatible with NTFS file system for a number of versions.
>> Ghost Version 12 is Vista compatible.
>> The Ghost installation CD has  been bootable for a number of versions. 
>> You may need to reset your BIOS to boot from CD. If you have more than 
>> one DVD/CD drive only one will be boot capable {in a tower system it is 
>> usually the top drive}.
>>
>> I recently changed to Acronis True Image for a new computer. So far I 
>> like it; but have not needed to use it to restore. I did a number of 
>> restores with Ghost versions 10 thru 12. For non-Windows drive or a drive 
>> with Ghost installed, I could restore from within Windows.
>>
>> Don
>
>
date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 12:40:15 -0500   author:   cqui3

Re: Which disk image creation software is good for Vista?   
"Colin Barnhorst"  wrote in message 
news:387B80F3-4137-4C33-933F-4A18C7573B49@microsoft.com...
> Apparently you have only looked at the File and folder backup function in 
> Ghost 12.  Go back and look at the Drive-based backup function.  That's 
> where you find the compressed image capability.  You can do either kind of 
> backup.
>

I have Ghost 12 opened in front of me.
I cannot find any 'functions' you talk about.
The main options are:
Home  Status Tasks Tools Advanced
Under Tools I have:
Manage Backup Destination
Copy Recovery Point
Convert to Virtual Disk
Copy My Hard Drive ----> this is what I was referring to.

Can you please guide me to "Drive based function" please?
Jack
date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 12:53:55 -0500   author:   Jack replyto@it

Re: Which disk image creation software is good for Vista?   
I have Ghost 12 opened in front of me.
The main options are:
Home  Status Tasks Tools Advanced
Under Tools I have:
Manage Backup Destination
Copy Recovery Point
Convert to Virtual Disk
Copy My Hard Drive ----> this is what I was referring to.

Can you please guide me to "Drive based function" please?
Jack

"cqui3"  wrote in message 
news:OG92IJUVIHA.724@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> It does on my copmputer.
>
> "Jack" <replyto@it> a écrit dans le message de 
> news:%23YGKQjTVIHA.5816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Ghost 12 does not create a single file image anymore, or I do not know 
>> how to use it.
>> Acronis does.
>> Jack
>> "dgmacmi<>"  wrote in message 
>> news:uYWKLF$UIHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message 
>>> news:Oh1Rm2%23UIHA.6060@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hello,
>>>> In previous years I used Ghost to create the image of my harddrive.
>>>> It was simple, easy procedure and very fast.
>>>> I booted up computer to the command prompt and restored harddrive in 
>>>> few minutes!!!
>>>> But it was FAT32 system.
>>>> Now, with Vista I do not have a choice but to use NTSF file system.
>>>> Which program offers the most features for disk image creation?
>>>> I know it will be impossible for me to restore image from command boot 
>>>> option, but what the options I have?
>>>> Can I for example take the harddrive to another computer and restore 
>>>> the image in there?
>>>> Or create bootable CD (DVD?) and restore the image that way?
>>>> Or I have to first install Windows and then restore?
>>>> What are the options?
>>>> Your experience is welcomed,
>>>> Jack
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ghost has been compatible with NTFS file system for a number of 
>>> versions.
>>> Ghost Version 12 is Vista compatible.
>>> The Ghost installation CD has  been bootable for a number of versions. 
>>> You may need to reset your BIOS to boot from CD. If you have more than 
>>> one DVD/CD drive only one will be boot capable {in a tower system it is 
>>> usually the top drive}.
>>>
>>> I recently changed to Acronis True Image for a new computer. So far I 
>>> like it; but have not needed to use it to restore. I did a number of 
>>> restores with Ghost versions 10 thru 12. For non-Windows drive or a 
>>> drive with Ghost installed, I could restore from within Windows.
>>>
>>> Don
>>
>>
>
date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 13:25:23 -0500   author:   Jack replyto@it

Re: Which disk image creation software is good for Vista?   
Sorry I haven't used Ghost in a long time. I thought it had the ability to 
compress images but I may have been mistaken. Previous versions had this 
ability.

http://www.symantec.com/business/support/knowledge_base_results.jsp?SearchTerm=compression&pid=52020&content=all&searchText=&submit=Search+Now

-- 
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/



"Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message 
news:ehJKykTVIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Ghost 12 compresses?
> Can you guide me please how to do that?
> I can find only 'Copy Files' option.
> Jack
>
> "Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message 
> news:ACEF505D-8D12-44B4-A875-60D2369A3E11@microsoft.com...
>> >
>>> Which version of Vista do you have?
>>>
>>> If that version is > Home Premium, I highly recommend native "Complete 
>>> PC Backup and Restore". Excellent programme.
>>
>>
>> I agree it does a good job. The problem is it doesn't compress the image. 
>> Acronis True Image, Norton Ghost, etc. offer varying levels of 
>> compression so that more images can be stored.
>>
>> -- 
>> Kerry Brown
>> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
>> http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/
>>
>>
>>
>
>
date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 10:31:39 -0800   author:   Kerry Brown kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m

Re: Which disk image creation software is good for Vista?   
Chapter 4 of the user manual, page 45, "Choosing a Backup Type", (quote)

"There are two types of backups available:

Drive-based backup:  Backs up an entire hard drive

File and folder backup:  Backs up only the files and folders that you select

You can use the following guidelines to determine which type of backup to 
choose:
Drive-based backup:  Use this backup type to do the following:
■ Back up and recover your computer's system drive
(typically, the C drive, which includes your operating
system).
■ Back up and recover a specific hard drive, such as a
secondary drive (which is a drive other than the system
drive on which your operating system is installed).
■ Recover lost or damaged files or folders from a specific
point in time.

File and folder backup:  Use this backup type to do the following:
■ Back up and recover specific files and folders, for
example personal files that are stored in the My
Documents folder.
■ Back up and recover files of a specific type, for example
music (.mp3 or .wav) or photographs (.jpg or .bmp).
■ Recover a specific version of a file from a specific point
in time."  (end quote)

The detailed instructions for running a Drive-based backup begin on page 46.

"Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message 
news:Ot5KYQUVIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
> "Colin Barnhorst"  wrote in message 
> news:387B80F3-4137-4C33-933F-4A18C7573B49@microsoft.com...
>> Apparently you have only looked at the File and folder backup function in 
>> Ghost 12.  Go back and look at the Drive-based backup function.  That's 
>> where you find the compressed image capability.  You can do either kind 
>> of backup.
>>
>
> I have Ghost 12 opened in front of me.
> I cannot find any 'functions' you talk about.
> The main options are:
> Home  Status Tasks Tools Advanced
> Under Tools I have:
> Manage Backup Destination
> Copy Recovery Point
> Convert to Virtual Disk
> Copy My Hard Drive ----> this is what I was referring to.
>
> Can you please guide me to "Drive based function" please?
> Jack
>
date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 11:35:35 -0700   author:   Colin Barnhorst

Re: Which disk image creation software is good for Vista?   
I am wondering guys why my question about WinImage has been ignored?

How does it measure up to Ghost, Acronis and other your favorites?

"Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message 
news:OqmY9hUVIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>I have Ghost 12 opened in front of me.
> The main options are:
> Home  Status Tasks Tools Advanced
> Under Tools I have:
> Manage Backup Destination
> Copy Recovery Point
> Convert to Virtual Disk
> Copy My Hard Drive ----> this is what I was referring to.
>
> Can you please guide me to "Drive based function" please?
> Jack
>
> "cqui3"  wrote in message 
> news:OG92IJUVIHA.724@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> It does on my copmputer.
>>
>> "Jack" <replyto@it> a écrit dans le message de 
>> news:%23YGKQjTVIHA.5816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Ghost 12 does not create a single file image anymore, or I do not know 
>>> how to use it.
>>> Acronis does.
>>> Jack
>>> "dgmacmi<>"  wrote in message 
>>> news:uYWKLF$UIHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message 
>>>> news:Oh1Rm2%23UIHA.6060@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> In previous years I used Ghost to create the image of my harddrive.
>>>>> It was simple, easy procedure and very fast.
>>>>> I booted up computer to the command prompt and restored harddrive in 
>>>>> few minutes!!!
>>>>> But it was FAT32 system.
>>>>> Now, with Vista I do not have a choice but to use NTSF file system.
>>>>> Which program offers the most features for disk image creation?
>>>>> I know it will be impossible for me to restore image from command boot 
>>>>> option, but what the options I have?
>>>>> Can I for example take the harddrive to another computer and restore 
>>>>> the image in there?
>>>>> Or create bootable CD (DVD?) and restore the image that way?
>>>>> Or I have to first install Windows and then restore?
>>>>> What are the options?
>>>>> Your experience is welcomed,
>>>>> Jack
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ghost has been compatible with NTFS file system for a number of 
>>>> versions.
>>>> Ghost Version 12 is Vista compatible.
>>>> The Ghost installation CD has  been bootable for a number of versions. 
>>>> You may need to reset your BIOS to boot from CD. If you have more than 
>>>> one DVD/CD drive only one will be boot capable {in a tower system it is 
>>>> usually the top drive}.
>>>>
>>>> I recently changed to Acronis True Image for a new computer. So far I 
>>>> like it; but have not needed to use it to restore. I did a number of 
>>>> restores with Ghost versions 10 thru 12. For non-Windows drive or a 
>>>> drive with Ghost installed, I could restore from within Windows.
>>>>
>>>> Don
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 13:46:30 -0500   author:   AlexB

Re: Which disk image creation software is good for Vista?   
Thank you, but where is that menu available?
What should I click on?
Jack

"Colin Barnhorst"  wrote in message 
news:14B187B6-093E-4626-87F8-1A2ED9FA2008@microsoft.com...
> Chapter 4 of the user manual, page 45, "Choosing a Backup Type", (quote)
>
> "There are two types of backups available:
>
> Drive-based backup:  Backs up an entire hard drive
>
> File and folder backup:  Backs up only the files and folders that you 
> select
>
> You can use the following guidelines to determine which type of backup to 
> choose:
> Drive-based backup:  Use this backup type to do the following:
> ? Back up and recover your computer's system drive
> (typically, the C drive, which includes your operating
> system).
> ? Back up and recover a specific hard drive, such as a
> secondary drive (which is a drive other than the system
> drive on which your operating system is installed).
> ? Recover lost or damaged files or folders from a specific
> point in time.
>
> File and folder backup:  Use this backup type to do the following:
> ? Back up and recover specific files and folders, for
> example personal files that are stored in the My
> Documents folder.
> ? Back up and recover files of a specific type, for example
> music (.mp3 or .wav) or photographs (.jpg or .bmp).
> ? Recover a specific version of a file from a specific point
> in time."  (end quote)
>
> The detailed instructions for running a Drive-based backup begin on page 
> 46.
>
> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message 
> news:Ot5KYQUVIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Colin Barnhorst"  wrote in message 
>> news:387B80F3-4137-4C33-933F-4A18C7573B49@microsoft.com...
>>> Apparently you have only looked at the File and folder backup function 
>>> in Ghost 12.  Go back and look at the Drive-based backup function. 
>>> That's where you find the compressed image capability.  You can do 
>>> either kind of backup.
>>>
>>
>> I have Ghost 12 opened in front of me.
>> I cannot find any 'functions' you talk about.
>> The main options are:
>> Home  Status Tasks Tools Advanced
>> Under Tools I have:
>> Manage Backup Destination
>> Copy Recovery Point
>> Convert to Virtual Disk
>> Copy My Hard Drive ----> this is what I was referring to.
>>
>> Can you please guide me to "Drive based function" please?
>> Jack
>>
>
date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 13:47:33 -0500   author:   Jack replyto@it

Re: Which disk image creation software is good for Vista?   
If somebody who uses it happens along I would think they will reply.   Maybe 
CNet has a side by side comparison for all possible backup solutions and 
have something on WinImage.

"AlexB"  wrote in message 
news:%23ta$xtUVIHA.2000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>I am wondering guys why my question about WinImage has been ignored?
>
> How does it measure up to Ghost, Acronis and other your favorites?
>
> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message 
> news:OqmY9hUVIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>I have Ghost 12 opened in front of me.
>> The main options are:
>> Home  Status Tasks Tools Advanced
>> Under Tools I have:
>> Manage Backup Destination
>> Copy Recovery Point
>> Convert to Virtual Disk
>> Copy My Hard Drive ----> this is what I was referring to.
>>
>> Can you please guide me to "Drive based function" please?
>> Jack
>>
>> "cqui3"  wrote in message 
>> news:OG92IJUVIHA.724@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> It does on my copmputer.
>>>
>>> "Jack" <replyto@it> a écrit dans le message de 
>>> news:%23YGKQjTVIHA.5816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> Ghost 12 does not create a single file image anymore, or I do not know 
>>>> how to use it.
>>>> Acronis does.
>>>> Jack
>>>> "dgmacmi<>"  wrote in message 
>>>> news:uYWKLF$UIHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message 
>>>>> news:Oh1Rm2%23UIHA.6060@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>> In previous years I used Ghost to create the image of my harddrive.
>>>>>> It was simple, easy procedure and very fast.
>>>>>> I booted up computer to the command prompt and restored harddrive in 
>>>>>> few minutes!!!
>>>>>> But it was FAT32 system.
>>>>>> Now, with Vista I do not have a choice but to use NTSF file system.
>>>>>> Which program offers the most features for disk image creation?
>>>>>> I know it will be impossible for me to restore image from command 
>>>>>> boot option, but what the options I have?
>>>>>> Can I for example take the harddrive to another computer and restore 
>>>>>> the image in there?
>>>>>> Or create bootable CD (DVD?) and restore the image that way?
>>>>>> Or I have to first install Windows and then restore?
>>>>>> What are the options?
>>>>>> Your experience is welcomed,
>>>>>> Jack
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ghost has been compatible with NTFS file system for a number of 
>>>>> versions.
>>>>> Ghost Version 12 is Vista compatible.
>>>>> The Ghost installation CD has  been bootable for a number of versions. 
>>>>> You may need to reset your BIOS to boot from CD. If you have more than 
>>>>> one DVD/CD drive only one will be boot capable {in a tower system it 
>>>>> is usually the top drive}.
>>>>>
>>>>> I recently changed to Acronis True Image for a new computer. So far I 
>>>>> like it; but have not needed to use it to restore. I did a number of 
>>>>> restores with Ghost versions 10 thru 12. For non-Windows drive or a 
>>>>> drive with Ghost installed, I could restore from within Windows.
>>>>>
>>>>> Don
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 11:55:07 -0700   author:   Colin Barnhorst

Re: Which disk image creation software is good for Vista?   
Like I said at the end of my last post, "The detailed instructions for 
running a Drive-based backup begin on page 46."

Please download the manual from Symantecs website.

"Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message 
news:eCdEWuUVIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Thank you, but where is that menu available?
> What should I click on?
> Jack
>
> "Colin Barnhorst"  wrote in message 
> news:14B187B6-093E-4626-87F8-1A2ED9FA2008@microsoft.com...
>> Chapter 4 of the user manual, page 45, "Choosing a Backup Type", (quote)
>>
>> "There are two types of backups available:
>>
>> Drive-based backup:  Backs up an entire hard drive
>>
>> File and folder backup:  Backs up only the files and folders that you 
>> select
>>
>> You can use the following guidelines to determine which type of backup to 
>> choose:
>> Drive-based backup:  Use this backup type to do the following:
>> ? Back up and recover your computer's system drive
>> (typically, the C drive, which includes your operating
>> system).
>> ? Back up and recover a specific hard drive, such as a
>> secondary drive (which is a drive other than the system
>> drive on which your operating system is installed).
>> ? Recover lost or damaged files or folders from a specific
>> point in time.
>>
>> File and folder backup:  Use this backup type to do the following:
>> ? Back up and recover specific files and folders, for
>> example personal files that are stored in the My
>> Documents folder.
>> ? Back up and recover files of a specific type, for example
>> music (.mp3 or .wav) or photographs (.jpg or .bmp).
>> ? Recover a specific version of a file from a specific point
>> in time."  (end quote)
>>
>> The detailed instructions for running a Drive-based backup begin on page 
>> 46.
>>
>> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message 
>> news:Ot5KYQUVIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> "Colin Barnhorst"  wrote in message 
>>> news:387B80F3-4137-4C33-933F-4A18C7573B49@microsoft.com...
>>>> Apparently you have only looked at the File and folder backup function 
>>>> in Ghost 12.  Go back and look at the Drive-based backup function. 
>>>> That's where you find the compressed image capability.  You can do 
>>>> either kind of backup.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I have Ghost 12 opened in front of me.
>>> I cannot find any 'functions' you talk about.
>>> The main options are:
>>> Home  Status Tasks Tools Advanced
>>> Under Tools I have:
>>> Manage Backup Destination
>>> Copy Recovery Point
>>> Convert to Virtual Disk
>>> Copy My Hard Drive ----> this is what I was referring to.
>>>
>>> Can you please guide me to "Drive based function" please?
>>> Jack
>>>
>>
>
>
date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 11:56:58 -0700   author:   Colin Barnhorst

Re: Which disk image creation software is good for Vista?   
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 11:43:11 -0500, "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote:

>
>"Bernie Sterzenbach"  wrote in message 
>news:lohfo3haunum2pkocmjllubrd8d8kle2ho@4ax.com...
>>
>> Hello,
>> Ghost 12.0 is very good. Also for Vista and NTFS. Some versions
>> between old DOS Ghost and Ghost 12.0 were imho not good.
>>
>> Bernie
>
>What is good with it?

Fast and easy to make a complete image of any partition during Vista
session.

>Does it produce a single file compressed image? 
>

Yes, it does
date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 21:18:38 +0100   author:   Bernie Sterzenbach

Re: Which disk image creation software is good for Vista?   
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 21:38:26 -0500, "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote:

>Thank you all.
>I have tried it and I am very disapointed with Ghost 12.
>Or I do not know how to use it or it does not create disk image as a single 
>file.
>What it does it just copy one drive into another one, which is not the same

That  is wrong.
 
>as creating an image I can do with it what I want.

Please read the manual. It is very easy to create an image. This image
is mentioned as a restore point. The file extension is v2i. You can
extract files out of it, use it complete to overwrite any partition,
or you can mount it with one mouse click to your computer. The best
image program I ever found and I tried a lot of.

Bernie
date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 21:33:33 +0100   author:   Bernie Sterzenbach

Re: Which disk image creation software is good for Vista?   
"Kevin Weaver"  wrote in message 
news:UfDhj.34845$JD.9609@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net...
> "Telstar" <none@none> wrote in message 
> news:eeB6GyAVIHA.4740@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message 
>> news:Oh1Rm2%23UIHA.6060@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Hello,
>>> In previous years I used Ghost to create the image of my harddrive.
>>> It was simple, easy procedure and very fast.
>>> I booted up computer to the command prompt and restored harddrive in few 
>>> minutes!!!
>>> But it was FAT32 system.
>>> Now, with Vista I do not have a choice but to use NTSF file system.
>>> Which program offers the most features for disk image creation?
>>> I know it will be impossible for me to restore image from command boot 
>>> option, but what the options I have?
>>> Can I for example take the harddrive to another computer and restore the 
>>> image in there?
>>> Or create bootable CD (DVD?) and restore the image that way?
>>> Or I have to first install Windows and then restore?
>>> What are the options?
>>> Your experience is welcomed,
>>> Jack
>>>
>>
>> One word:  Acronis.  It has the most robust boot CD available (written in 
>> Linux).
>>
>>
>
> That must be the reason why it could not find a ext usb DVD drive to boot 
> from huh ? Installed a IDE which it would boot, But then it could not find 
> the drive which had the Image. Biggest POS There is.
>
> Installed Ghost. Saw USB drive and also the IDE Hard Drive.

I have three external USB hard drives and DVD drive.  No problems.

Ghost is an unreliable mess of a program.
date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 02:08:19 -0800   author:   Telstar none@none

Re: Which disk image creation software is good for Vista?   
"Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message 
news:Ot5KYQUVIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
> "Colin Barnhorst"  wrote in message 
> news:387B80F3-4137-4C33-933F-4A18C7573B49@microsoft.com...
>> Apparently you have only looked at the File and folder backup function in 
>> Ghost 12.  Go back and look at the Drive-based backup function.  That's 
>> where you find the compressed image capability.  You can do either kind 
>> of backup.
>>
>
> I have Ghost 12 opened in front of me.
> I cannot find any 'functions' you talk about.
> The main options are:
> Home  Status Tasks Tools Advanced
> Under Tools I have:
> Manage Backup Destination
> Copy Recovery Point
> Convert to Virtual Disk
> Copy My Hard Drive ----> this is what I was referring to.
>
> Can you please guide me to "Drive based function" please?
> Jack
>

The purpose of the function: "Copy My Hard Drive ----> this is what I was 
referring to." is to clone your hard drive to a new hard drive. It is not a 
backup or image function.

In the Docs folder of your Ghost 12 installation CD there is a PDF Users 
Guide.  The Users Guide provides more complete information on using Ghost 12 
than the User Guide included with the CD package.

Don
date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:43:12 -0500   author:   dgmacmi

Re: Which disk image creation software is good for Vista?   
"dgmacmi<>"  wrote in message 
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> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message 
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>>
>> "Colin Barnhorst"  wrote in message 
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>>> Apparently you have only looked at the File and folder backup function 
>>> in Ghost 12.  Go back and look at the Drive-based backup function. 
>>> That's where you find the compressed image capability.  You can do 
>>> either kind of backup.
>>>
>>
>> I have Ghost 12 opened in front of me.
>> I cannot find any 'functions' you talk about.
>> The main options are:
>> Home  Status Tasks Tools Advanced
>> Under Tools I have:
>> Manage Backup Destination
>> Copy Recovery Point
>> Convert to Virtual Disk
>> Copy My Hard Drive ----> this is what I was referring to.
>>
>> Can you please guide me to "Drive based function" please?
>> Jack
>>
>
> The purpose of the function: "Copy My Hard Drive ----> this is what I was 
> referring to." is to clone your hard drive to a new hard drive. It is not 
> a backup or image function.
>
> In the Docs folder of your Ghost 12 installation CD there is a PDF Users 
> Guide.  The Users Guide provides more complete information on using Ghost 
> 12 than the User Guide included with the CD package.
>
> Don
>

I will stick with Acronis.
If I need to read manual to be able to create simple image that thing is not 
for me.
It means it is blown out of proportion!
Jack
date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 11:13:35 -0500   author:   Jack replyto@it

Re: Which disk image creation software is good for Vista?   
"Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message 
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>
> "dgmacmi<>"  wrote in message 
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>> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message 
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>>>
>>> "Colin Barnhorst"  wrote in message 
>>> news:387B80F3-4137-4C33-933F-4A18C7573B49@microsoft.com...
>>>> Apparently you have only looked at the File and folder backup function 
>>>> in Ghost 12.  Go back and look at the Drive-based backup function. 
>>>> That's where you find the compressed image capability.  You can do 
>>>> either kind of backup.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I have Ghost 12 opened in front of me.
>>> I cannot find any 'functions' you talk about.
>>> The main options are:
>>> Home  Status Tasks Tools Advanced
>>> Under Tools I have:
>>> Manage Backup Destination
>>> Copy Recovery Point
>>> Convert to Virtual Disk
>>> Copy My Hard Drive ----> this is what I was referring to.
>>>
>>> Can you please guide me to "Drive based function" please?
>>> Jack
>>>
>>
>> The purpose of the function: "Copy My Hard Drive ----> this is what I was 
>> referring to." is to clone your hard drive to a new hard drive. It is not 
>> a backup or image function.
>>
>> In the Docs folder of your Ghost 12 installation CD there is a PDF Users 
>> Guide.  The Users Guide provides more complete information on using Ghost 
>> 12 than the User Guide included with the CD package.
>>
>> Don
>>
>
> I will stick with Acronis.
> If I need to read manual to be able to create simple image that thing is 
> not for me.
> It means it is blown out of proportion!
> Jack
>


In the Guide folder of the Acronis True Image 11 installation CD, there is a 
similar PDF Users Guide on using True Image.

Don
date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 11:48:20 -0500   author:   dgmacmi

Re: Which disk image creation software is good for Vista?   
"Jack" <replyto@it> a écrit dans le message de 
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>
> "dgmacmi<>"  wrote in message 
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>> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message 
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>>>
>>> "Colin Barnhorst"  wrote in message 
>>> news:387B80F3-4137-4C33-933F-4A18C7573B49@microsoft.com...
>>>> Apparently you have only looked at the File and folder backup function 
>>>> in Ghost 12.  Go back and look at the Drive-based backup function. 
>>>> That's where you find the compressed image capability.  You can do 
>>>> either kind of backup.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I have Ghost 12 opened in front of me.
>>> I cannot find any 'functions' you talk about.
>>> The main options are:
>>> Home  Status Tasks Tools Advanced
>>> Under Tools I have:
>>> Manage Backup Destination
>>> Copy Recovery Point
>>> Convert to Virtual Disk
>>> Copy My Hard Drive ----> this is what I was referring to.
>>>
>>> Can you please guide me to "Drive based function" please?
>>> Jack
>>>
>>
>> The purpose of the function: "Copy My Hard Drive ----> this is what I was 
>> referring to." is to clone your hard drive to a new hard drive. It is not 
>> a backup or image function.
>>
>> In the Docs folder of your Ghost 12 installation CD there is a PDF Users 
>> Guide.  The Users Guide provides more complete information on using Ghost 
>> 12 than the User Guide included with the CD package.
>>
>> Don
>>
>
> I will stick with Acronis.
> If I need to read manual to be able to create simple image that thing is 
> not for me.
> It means it is blown out of proportion!
> Jack
It is really easy.  Click on the tray icon.  Click on the Tools Icon.
There yoyuy will see an icon for copying your HD to a different
HD.

Beware thought that if  yu do it from within Windows, you mght
have to reactivate the OS.  When I did that on my computer,
Windows interpreted it as moving to another machine.
But as far as I remember it can also be done from the recovery CD.
date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:13:03 -0500   author:   cqui3

Re: Which disk image creation software is good for Vista?   
"cqui3"  wrote in message 
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> "Jack" <replyto@it> a écrit dans le message de 
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>>
>> "dgmacmi<>"  wrote in message 
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>>> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message 
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>>>>
>>>> "Colin Barnhorst"  wrote in message 
>>>> news:387B80F3-4137-4C33-933F-4A18C7573B49@microsoft.com...
>>>>> Apparently you have only looked at the File and folder backup function 
>>>>> in Ghost 12.  Go back and look at the Drive-based backup function. 
>>>>> That's where you find the compressed image capability.  You can do 
>>>>> either kind of backup.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have Ghost 12 opened in front of me.
>>>> I cannot find any 'functions' you talk about.
>>>> The main options are:
>>>> Home  Status Tasks Tools Advanced
>>>> Under Tools I have:
>>>> Manage Backup Destination
>>>> Copy Recovery Point
>>>> Convert to Virtual Disk
>>>> Copy My Hard Drive ----> this is what I was referring to.
>>>>
>>>> Can you please guide me to "Drive based function" please?
>>>> Jack
>>>>
>>>
>>> The purpose of the function: "Copy My Hard Drive ----> this is what I 
>>> was referring to." is to clone your hard drive to a new hard drive. It 
>>> is not a backup or image function.
>>>
>>> In the Docs folder of your Ghost 12 installation CD there is a PDF Users 
>>> Guide.  The Users Guide provides more complete information on using 
>>> Ghost 12 than the User Guide included with the CD package.
>>>
>>> Don
>>>
>>
>> I will stick with Acronis.
>> If I need to read manual to be able to create simple image that thing is 
>> not for me.
>> It means it is blown out of proportion!
>> Jack
> It is really easy.  Click on the tray icon.  Click on the Tools Icon.
> There yoyuy will see an icon for copying your HD to a different
> HD.
>
> Beware thought that if  yu do it from within Windows, you mght
> have to reactivate the OS.  When I did that on my computer,
> Windows interpreted it as moving to another machine.
> But as far as I remember it can also be done from the recovery CD.

I am talking about creating a disk image, not disk copy.
Jack
date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:37:53 -0500   author:   Jack replyto@it

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"Jack" <replyto@it> a écrit dans le message de 
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> "cqui3"  wrote in message 
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>>
>> "Jack" <replyto@it> a écrit dans le message de 
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>>>
>>> "dgmacmi<>"  wrote in message 
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>>>> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message 
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>>>>>
>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst"  wrote in message 
>>>>> news:387B80F3-4137-4C33-933F-4A18C7573B49@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> Apparently you have only looked at the File and folder backup 
>>>>>> function in Ghost 12.  Go back and look at the Drive-based backup 
>>>>>> function. That's where you find the compressed image capability.  You 
>>>>>> can do either kind of backup.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have Ghost 12 opened in front of me.
>>>>> I cannot find any 'functions' you talk about.
>>>>> The main options are:
>>>>> Home  Status Tasks Tools Advanced
>>>>> Under Tools I have:
>>>>> Manage Backup Destination
>>>>> Copy Recovery Point
>>>>> Convert to Virtual Disk
>>>>> Copy My Hard Drive ----> this is what I was referring to.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you please guide me to "Drive based function" please?
>>>>> Jack
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The purpose of the function: "Copy My Hard Drive ----> this is what I 
>>>> was referring to." is to clone your hard drive to a new hard drive. It 
>>>> is not a backup or image function.
>>>>
>>>> In the Docs folder of your Ghost 12 installation CD there is a PDF 
>>>> Users Guide.  The Users Guide provides more complete information on 
>>>> using Ghost 12 than the User Guide included with the CD package.
>>>>
>>>> Don
>>>>
>>>
>>> I will stick with Acronis.
>>> If I need to read manual to be able to create simple image that thing is 
>>> not for me.
>>> It means it is blown out of proportion!
>>> Jack
>> It is really easy.  Click on the tray icon.  Click on the Tools Icon.
>> There yoyuy will see an icon for copying your HD to a different
>> HD.
>>
>> Beware thought that if  yu do it from within Windows, you mght
>> have to reactivate the OS.  When I did that on my computer,
>> Windows interpreted it as moving to another machine.
>> But as far as I remember it can also be done from the recovery CD.
>
> I am talking about creating a disk image, not disk copy.
> Jack
>

Then it is even easier.
date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 13:22:11 -0500   author:   cqui3

Re: Which disk image creation software is good for Vista?   
"Jack" <replyto@it> a écrit dans le message de
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> "cqui3"  wrote in message
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>>
>> "Jack" <replyto@it> a écrit dans le message de
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>>>
>>> "dgmacmi<>"  wrote in message
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>>>> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message
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>>>>>
>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst"  wrote in message
>>>>> news:387B80F3-4137-4C33-933F-4A18C7573B49@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> Apparently you have only looked at the File and folder backup
>>>>>> function in Ghost 12.  Go back and look at the Drive-based backup
>>>>>> function. That's where you find the compressed image capability.  You
>>>>>> can do either kind of backup.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have Ghost 12 opened in front of me.
>>>>> I cannot find any 'functions' you talk about.
>>>>> The main options are:
>>>>> Home  Status Tasks Tools Advanced
>>>>> Under Tools I have:
>>>>> Manage Backup Destination
>>>>> Copy Recovery Point
>>>>> Convert to Virtual Disk
>>>>> Copy My Hard Drive ----> this is what I was referring to.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you please guide me to "Drive based function" please?
>>>>> Jack
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The purpose of the function: "Copy My Hard Drive ----> this is what I
>>>> was referring to." is to clone your hard drive to a new hard drive. It
>>>> is not a backup or image function.
>>>>
>>>> In the Docs folder of your Ghost 12 installation CD there is a PDF
>>>> Users Guide.  The Users Guide provides more complete information on
>>>> using Ghost 12 than the User Guide included with the CD package.
>>>>
>>>> Don
>>>>
>>>
>>> I will stick with Acronis.
>>> If I need to read manual to be able to create simple image that thing is
>>> not for me.
>>> It means it is blown out of proportion!
>>> Jack
>> It is really easy.  Click on the tray icon.  Click on the Tools Icon.
>> There yoyuy will see an icon for copying your HD to a different
>> HD.
>>
>> Beware thought that if  yu do it from within Windows, you mght
>> have to reactivate the OS.  When I did that on my computer,
>> Windows interpreted it as moving to another machine.
>> But as far as I remember it can also be done from the recovery CD.
>
> I am talking about creating a disk image, not disk copy.
> Jack
>

Then it is even easier. A right click on the  tray Icon
offers you that option.
date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 13:23:38 -0500   author:   cqui3

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