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date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:02:33 -0500,    group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_assessment        back       


Which system should I choose?   
Hello,
           I need to choose between these 2 systems:
1.
comes with an Athlon 64 X2 5000+ 2.6GHz dual core processor, 1GB of DDR2 
RAM, and a 320GB SATA II hard drive
and Vista Home Premium (32 bit)

2.
comes with Pentium 4 CPU, 3.2 GHz, 2GB of DDR2 RAM, and a 320GB SATA II hard 
drive and Vista Home Premium (32 bit)

The real difference is only the CPU and RAM size.

Which system to choose and why?
Thanks,
Jack
date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:02:33 -0500   author:   Jack replyto@it

Re: Which system should I choose?   
If the second option is a Core 2 Duo then the second one hands down. If it 
is just a plain P4, non-dual core, I'd go for the first one and upgrade to 2 
GB of RAM when you can.

-- 
Dustin Harper
dharper@vistarip.com
http://www.vistarip.com


"Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message 
news:OFBx$R9UIHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Hello,
>           I need to choose between these 2 systems:
> 1.
> comes with an Athlon 64 X2 5000+ 2.6GHz dual core processor, 1GB of DDR2 
> RAM, and a 320GB SATA II hard drive
> and Vista Home Premium (32 bit)
>
> 2.
> comes with Pentium 4 CPU, 3.2 GHz, 2GB of DDR2 RAM, and a 320GB SATA II 
> hard drive and Vista Home Premium (32 bit)
>
> The real difference is only the CPU and RAM size.
>
> Which system to choose and why?
> Thanks,
> Jack
>
date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 14:20:44 -0800   author:   Dustin Harper

Re: Which system should I choose?   
I'd agree with Dustin!
-- 
Cari (MS-MVP) Printing & Imaging
www.coribright.com/windows

"Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message 
news:OFBx$R9UIHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Hello,
>           I need to choose between these 2 systems:
> 1.
> comes with an Athlon 64 X2 5000+ 2.6GHz dual core processor, 1GB of DDR2 
> RAM, and a 320GB SATA II hard drive
> and Vista Home Premium (32 bit)
>
> 2.
> comes with Pentium 4 CPU, 3.2 GHz, 2GB of DDR2 RAM, and a 320GB SATA II 
> hard drive and Vista Home Premium (32 bit)
>
> The real difference is only the CPU and RAM size.
>
> Which system to choose and why?
> Thanks,
> Jack
>
date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 14:28:03 -0800   author:   Cari \(MS-MVP\)

Re: Which system should I choose?   
I meant to add that the AMD system will run a lot cooler as well.

"Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message 
news:OFBx$R9UIHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Hello,
>           I need to choose between these 2 systems:
> 1.
> comes with an Athlon 64 X2 5000+ 2.6GHz dual core processor, 1GB of DDR2 
> RAM, and a 320GB SATA II hard drive
> and Vista Home Premium (32 bit)
>
> 2.
> comes with Pentium 4 CPU, 3.2 GHz, 2GB of DDR2 RAM, and a 320GB SATA II 
> hard drive and Vista Home Premium (32 bit)
>
> The real difference is only the CPU and RAM size.
>
> Which system to choose and why?
> Thanks,
> Jack
>
date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:40:21 -0700   author:   Colin Barnhorst

Re: Which system should I choose?   
An AMD dual core blows the doors off of a Pentium 4 any day.  Add more ram 
and mix.

"Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message 
news:OFBx$R9UIHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Hello,
>           I need to choose between these 2 systems:
> 1.
> comes with an Athlon 64 X2 5000+ 2.6GHz dual core processor, 1GB of DDR2 
> RAM, and a 320GB SATA II hard drive
> and Vista Home Premium (32 bit)
>
> 2.
> comes with Pentium 4 CPU, 3.2 GHz, 2GB of DDR2 RAM, and a 320GB SATA II 
> hard drive and Vista Home Premium (32 bit)
>
> The real difference is only the CPU and RAM size.
>
> Which system to choose and why?
> Thanks,
> Jack
>
date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:39:35 -0700   author:   Colin Barnhorst

Re: Which system should I choose?   
Another very important criteria is what make and model of graphics cards are 
in the systems.
And certainly a 2 core 64 bit processor is better to have then a single core 
32 bit processor so you can upgrade to Vista 64 bit in the future.
"Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message 
news:OFBx$R9UIHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Hello,
>           I need to choose between these 2 systems:
> 1.
> comes with an Athlon 64 X2 5000+ 2.6GHz dual core processor, 1GB of DDR2 
> RAM, and a 320GB SATA II hard drive
> and Vista Home Premium (32 bit)
>
> 2.
> comes with Pentium 4 CPU, 3.2 GHz, 2GB of DDR2 RAM, and a 320GB SATA II 
> hard drive and Vista Home Premium (32 bit)
>
> The real difference is only the CPU and RAM size.
>
> Which system to choose and why?
> Thanks,
> Jack
>
date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:45:25 -0800   author:   JW m

RE: Which system should I choose?   
Hi Jack,

I would opt for your first option and go with the Athlon 64 X2. As well as 
running slower than the Pentium 4 (yet giving the same or greater 
performance), they also run cooler and consume less power. AMD processors 
have another advantage in that they are, or have been in the past, cheaper 
than the equivalent Intel model. Another advantage lies with the chip 
architecture and the way that system RAM is accessed. With the Pentium 4, all 
information between the processor and the rest of the system flows through 
the system bus. This includes memory as well as graphics and other system 
data. With the Athlon 64, however, the memory controller is built-in to the 
processor. This means that the processor can communicate directly to the 
memory over a dedicated bus without this data having to share the system bus. 
Because there isn't the volume of traffic needed on the system bus it doesn't 
need to run as fast and yet it can still out-perform the equivalent Pentium 4 
system. However, I would recommend that you use 2GB of RAM and that you use 
dual-channel mode for the best performance.
Dwarf

"Jack" wrote:

> Hello,
>            I need to choose between these 2 systems:
> 1.
> comes with an Athlon 64 X2 5000+ 2.6GHz dual core processor, 1GB of DDR2 
> RAM, and a 320GB SATA II hard drive
> and Vista Home Premium (32 bit)
> 
> 2.
> comes with Pentium 4 CPU, 3.2 GHz, 2GB of DDR2 RAM, and a 320GB SATA II hard 
> drive and Vista Home Premium (32 bit)
> 
> The real difference is only the CPU and RAM size.
> 
> Which system to choose and why?
> Thanks,
> Jack 
> 
> 
>
date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 07:43:10 -0800   author:   Dwarf

Re: Which system should I choose?   
do not go AMD .........intel all the way 
i would still be inclined to go intel even if it wernt a dualie  
horror stories with these chips all over the web


-- 
skunksmash
date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:30:59 -0600   author:   skunksmash

Re: Which system should I choose?   
Although I think Intel is a better CPU, the P4 Prescotts weren't exactly the 
greatest. In this case, the AMD would be the better option. AMD makes great 
CPU's, but with the Core2Duo and Quad's, the Intel's are better performing 
for the price.

What horror stories are you talking about, anyway? The Phenom recall? I run 
a P4 3.0 (Prescott!) and an AMD Athlon 64 4400+. Both run with zero 
problems. I prefer the AMD in this case. But, a Core2Duo wipes out the AMD 
CPU's.

-- 
Dustin Harper
dharper@vistarip.com
http://www.vistarip.com


"skunksmash"  wrote in message 
news:skunksmash.331691@no-mx.forums.net...
>
> do not go AMD .........intel all the way
> i would still be inclined to go intel even if it wernt a dualie
> horror stories with these chips all over the web
>
>
> -- 
> skunksmash
date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:24:31 -0800   author:   Dustin Harper

Re: Which system should I choose?   
I run the same exact cpus as Dustin mentions and the Prescott is doing 
utility duty in the basement while the AMD 4400+ is my favorite gaming and 
testing box.  Only my Q6600 quadcore beats it (does so handily, however).

"Dustin Harper"  wrote in message 
news:43692209-10AB-4C69-9B57-AB8BA5A92451@microsoft.com...
> Although I think Intel is a better CPU, the P4 Prescotts weren't exactly 
> the greatest. In this case, the AMD would be the better option. AMD makes 
> great CPU's, but with the Core2Duo and Quad's, the Intel's are better 
> performing for the price.
>
> What horror stories are you talking about, anyway? The Phenom recall? I 
> run a P4 3.0 (Prescott!) and an AMD Athlon 64 4400+. Both run with zero 
> problems. I prefer the AMD in this case. But, a Core2Duo wipes out the AMD 
> CPU's.
>
> -- 
> Dustin Harper
> dharper@vistarip.com
> http://www.vistarip.com
>
>
> "skunksmash"  wrote in message 
> news:skunksmash.331691@no-mx.forums.net...
>>
>> do not go AMD .........intel all the way
>> i would still be inclined to go intel even if it wernt a dualie
>> horror stories with these chips all over the web
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> skunksmash
>
date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:31:26 -0700   author:   Colin Barnhorst

Re: Which system should I choose?   
ok mate my e2180 OCed will run rings round all your AMDs all day long
and thats a cheapie .....

buy the pentium rig and change the chip !!!!!!!!!!
.
when i talk about horror stories its from an overclocking view they
dont clock that well at all probably not relavent here but its definatly
something i would be looking at when buying a machine
but hey what do i know..........


-- 
skunksmash
date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 12:37:51 -0600   author:   skunksmash

RE: Which system should I choose?   
Well, it depends on what you need it for. Other than that, I would go for the 
second one if you haven't already done so.

"Jack" wrote:

> Hello,
>            I need to choose between these 2 systems:
> 1.
> comes with an Athlon 64 X2 5000+ 2.6GHz dual core processor, 1GB of DDR2 
> RAM, and a 320GB SATA II hard drive
> and Vista Home Premium (32 bit)
> 
> 2.
> comes with Pentium 4 CPU, 3.2 GHz, 2GB of DDR2 RAM, and a 320GB SATA II hard 
> drive and Vista Home Premium (32 bit)
> 
> The real difference is only the CPU and RAM size.
> 
> Which system to choose and why?
> Thanks,
> Jack 
> 
> 
>
date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 10:44:00 -0800   author:   GP

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