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date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 17:53:17 -0500,    group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general        back       


Program Files - Help Please!!   
I just got a new PC and need some help. I have windows Vista Home
Premium 64-Bit. When I go to start and select ''All Programs'' only some
of the a few of the things I have installed are there. So I went onto C:
and there is two differnt Program Files. One is called just ''Program
Files'' and the other one is called ''Program Files (x86)''. The x86 one
has all of the other stuff I have installed.
Why is it like this? How do I get it to just be 1 folder with all my
programs that I can select from the start menu like it normally is? I
want it to be like on Vista 32-bit where when you go to Start and All
Programs all your installed files are there not just the 64-Bit ones. :(


I've been trying all day and cant do it! :mad: 


Help Please!!


-- 
Usama
date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 17:53:17 -0500   author:   Usama

Re: Program Files - Help Please!!   
Hello Usama,

You can have any programs you like in your start menu - there are lots
of good tutorials on this forum - here are some you may like to start
with :

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/89656-start-menu-customize.html

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/79565-start-menu-pin.html

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/79571-start-menu-shortcuts.html

Hope this helps

SIW2


-- 
SIW2
date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 18:09:25 -0500   author:   SIW2

Re: Program Files - Help Please!!   
This is by design. Leave it as it is. Don't try to move it around, you'll 
mess it up.

"Usama"  wrote in message 
news:bd0981cf4b9e2075b6f77146e8254915@nntp-gateway.com...
>
> I just got a new PC and need some help. I have windows Vista Home
> Premium 64-Bit. When I go to start and select ''All Programs'' only some
> of the a few of the things I have installed are there. So I went onto C:
> and there is two differnt Program Files. One is called just ''Program
> Files'' and the other one is called ''Program Files (x86)''. The x86 one
> has all of the other stuff I have installed.
> Why is it like this? How do I get it to just be 1 folder with all my
> programs that I can select from the start menu like it normally is? I
> want it to be like on Vista 32-bit where when you go to Start and All
> Programs all your installed files are there not just the 64-Bit ones. :(
>
>
> I've been trying all day and cant do it! :mad:
>
>
> Help Please!!
>
>
> -- 
> Usama
date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 01:16:11 +0200   author:   Dusko Savatovic

Re: Program Files - Help Please!!   
This behavior is by default. Using 64 bit programs on a x64 Vista will put everything into the default folder which is Program Files.32 bit programs will go into another folder named Program Files and will be x86. X86 stands for 32 bit

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"Usama"  wrote in message news:bd0981cf4b9e2075b6f77146e8254915@nntp-gateway.com...
> 
> I just got a new PC and need some help. I have windows Vista Home
> Premium 64-Bit. When I go to start and select ''All Programs'' only some
> of the a few of the things I have installed are there. So I went onto C:
> and there is two differnt Program Files. One is called just ''Program
> Files'' and the other one is called ''Program Files (x86)''. The x86 one
> has all of the other stuff I have installed.
> Why is it like this? How do I get it to just be 1 folder with all my
> programs that I can select from the start menu like it normally is? I
> want it to be like on Vista 32-bit where when you go to Start and All
> Programs all your installed files are there not just the 64-Bit ones. > 
> 
> I've been trying all day and cant do it! :mad: 
> 
> 
> Help Please!!
> 
> 
> -- 
> Usama
date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 00:24:59 -0400   author:   Peter Foldes

Re: Program Files - Help Please!!   
I know it is like that but why dont the 32-Bit files show? They should
show up.


-- 
Usama
date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 06:28:24 -0500   author:   Usama

Re: Program Files - Help Please!!   
They do show up. Read my post again. In Program files  all x86 is 32 bit as is when going to Properties of any file it will also indicate it as such

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"Usama"  wrote in message news:49caf121b34985f2832076a803c02982@nntp-gateway.com...
> 
> I know it is like that but why dont the 32-Bit files show? They should
> show up.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Usama
date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 08:20:58 -0400   author:   Peter Foldes

Re: Program Files - Help Please!!   
he is talking about the start menu you moron

"Peter Foldes"  wrote in message 
news:OR7mXTGLJHA.1556@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> They do show up. Read my post again. In Program files  all x86 is 32 bit 
> as is when going to Properties of any file it will also indicate it as 
> such
>
> -- 
> Peter
>
> Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
> Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
>
> "Usama"  wrote in message 
> news:49caf121b34985f2832076a803c02982@nntp-gateway.com...
>>
>> I know it is like that but why dont the 32-Bit files show? They should
>> show up.
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Usama
date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 16:58:34 +0300   author:   Non Sequitur!

Re: Program Files - Help Please!!   
Non Sequitur!;858761 Wrote: 
> he is talking about the start menu you moron
> 
> "Peter Foldes" <okf22@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:OR7mXTGLJHA.1556@xxxxxx> > > 
> > > They do show up. Read my post again. In Program files all x86 is 32
> > bit
> > > as is when going to Properties of any file it will also indicate it
> > as
> > > such
> > >
> > > --
> > > Peter
> > >
> > > Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
> > > Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be
> > acknowledged.
> > >
> > > "Usama"  wrote in message
> > >
> > news:49caf121b34985f2832076a803c02982@xxxxxx-gateway.com...> > > > > 
> > > >>
> > > >> I know it is like that but why dont the 32-Bit files show? They
> > > should
> > > >> show up.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Usama > > > > > > 

Yep, that's right. It is really anoying me. I cant use my PC proplery.
Nearly all my programs that I have installed are 32-Bit I have to go
into :C and Program Files (x86) then slect the file I want. And a load
of other stuff comes up for that program that I dont need. :sa:


-- 
Usama
date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 09:42:59 -0500   author:   Usama

Re: Program Files - Help Please!!   
SIW2;858388 Wrote: 
> Hello Usama,
> 
> You can have any programs you like in your start menu - there are lots
> of good tutorials on this forum - here are some you may like to start
> with :
> 
> http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/89656-start-menu-customize.html
> 
> http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/79565-start-menu-pin.html
> 
> http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/79571-start-menu-shortcuts.html
> 
> Hope this helps
> 
> SIW2 

Thank's there are great tutorials. But I cant find what im looking for.
:) 

Could you please tell me how to get the x86 Program Files to show in
the start menu when you click All Programs?


-- 
Usama
date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 09:48:43 -0500   author:   Usama

Re: Program Files - Help Please!!   
Usama;858780 Wrote: 
> > SIW2;858388 Wrote: 
> > Hello Usama,
> > 
> > You can have any programs you like in your start menu - there are lots
> > of good tutorials on this forum - here are some you may like to start
> > with :
> > 
> > http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/89656-start-menu-customize.html
> > 
> > http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/79565-start-menu-pin.html
> > 
> > http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/79571-start-menu-shortcuts.html
> > 
> > Hope this helps
> > 
> > SIW2> > 
> 
> Thank's there are great tutorials. But I cant find what im looking
> for. :) 
> 
> Could you please tell me how to get the x86 Program Files to show in
> the start menu when you click All Programs?


Hello Usama,

Usually when you install either 32bit or 64bit programs, they should
have an option to allow them to place a shortcut in the Start Menu and
sometimes on the Desktop. If they do not, then you will need to manually
create a shortcut from the program's ".exe" file and move it the Start
Menu All Programs area. This tutorial will show you how to Move/Add that
shortcut to the Start Menu.

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/79571-start-menu-shortcuts.html

Hope this helps,
Shawn


-- 
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them.*
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date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 10:39:56 -0500   author:   Brink

Re: Program Files - Help Please!!   
It should be in your start menu too.

"Usama"  wrote in message 
news:535895fe3643fe685da5d8378cc37af5@nntp-gateway.com...
>
> Non Sequitur!;858761 Wrote:
>> he is talking about the start menu you moron
>>
>> "Peter Foldes" <okf22@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:OR7mXTGLJHA.1556@xxxxxx> > >
>> > > They do show up. Read my post again. In Program files all x86 is 32
>> > bit
>> > > as is when going to Properties of any file it will also indicate it
>> > as
>> > > such
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Peter
>> > >
>> > > Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
>> > > Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be
>> > acknowledged.
>> > >
>> > > "Usama"  wrote in message
>> > >
>> > news:49caf121b34985f2832076a803c02982@xxxxxx-gateway.com...> > > > >
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I know it is like that but why dont the 32-Bit files show? They
>> > > should
>> > > >> show up.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> --
>> > > >> Usama > > > > > >
>
> Yep, that's right. It is really anoying me. I cant use my PC proplery.
> Nearly all my programs that I have installed are 32-Bit I have to go
> into :C and Program Files (x86) then slect the file I want. And a load
> of other stuff comes up for that program that I dont need. :sa:
>
>
> -- 
> Usama
date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:35:02 +0200   author:   Tom W.

Re: Program Files - Help Please!!   
I posted    >>>Properties of any file it will also indicate it as  such<<<

And if you cannot comprehend that then call yourself whatever you feel like. Any file Folder and if you select Properties as I posted will tell you , be it start menu or Explorer or whatever. Read and comprehend .
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"Non Sequitur!"  wrote in message news:48f2028b@newsgate.x-privat.org...
> he is talking about the start menu you moron
> 
> "Peter Foldes"  wrote in message 
> news:OR7mXTGLJHA.1556@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> They do show up. Read my post again. In Program files  all x86 is 32 bit 
>> as is when going to Properties of any file it will also indicate it as 
>> such
>>
>> -- 
>> Peter
>>
>> Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
>> Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
>>
>> "Usama"  wrote in message 
>> news:49caf121b34985f2832076a803c02982@nntp-gateway.com...
>>>
>>> I know it is like that but why dont the 32-Bit files show? They should
>>> show up.
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Usama 
>
date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 15:02:25 -0400   author:   Peter Foldes

Re: Program Files - Help Please!!   
Brink;858802 Wrote: 
> > Usama;858780 Wrote: 
> > > > SIW2;858388 Wrote: 
> > > Hello Usama,
> > > 
> > > You can have any programs you like in your start menu - there are lots
> > > of good tutorials on this forum - here are some you may like to start
> > > with :
> > > 
> > > http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/89656-start-menu-customize.html
> > > 
> > > http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/79565-start-menu-pin.html
> > > 
> > > http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/79571-start-menu-shortcuts.html
> > > 
> > > Hope this helps
> > > 
> > > SIW2> > > > 
> > 
> > Thank's there are great tutorials. But I cant find what im looking
> > for. :) 
> > 
> > Could you please tell me how to get the x86 Program Files to show
> > in the start menu when you click All Programs?> > 
> 
> 
> Hello Usama,
> 
> Usually when you install either 32bit or 64bit programs, they should
> have an option to allow them to place a shortcut in the Start Menu and
> sometimes on the Desktop. If they do not, then you will need to
> manually create a shortcut from the program's ".exe" file and move it
> the Start Menu All Programs area. This tutorial will show you how to
> Move/Add that shortcut to the Start Menu.
> 
> http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/79571-start-menu-shortcuts.html
> 
> Hope this helps,
> Shawn

So I have to do this all the time? 

Can't I just creat a x86 folder that will have all the 32-bit files in
and I wont have to keep copying and pasting?


-- 
Usama
date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 14:23:14 -0500   author:   Usama

Re: Program Files - Help Please!!   
Usama;858959 Wrote: 
> > Brink;858802 Wrote: 
> > > > Usama;858780 Wrote: 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Thank's there are great tutorials. But I cant find what im looking for.
> > > :) 
> > > 
> > > Could you please tell me how to get the x86 Program Files to show in
> > > the start menu when you click All Programs?> > > > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hello Usama,
> > 
> > Usually when you install either 32bit or 64bit programs, they
> > should have an option to allow them to place a shortcut in the Start
> > Menu and sometimes on the Desktop. If they do not, then you will
> > need to manually create a shortcut from the program's ".exe" file
> > and move it the Start Menu All Programs area. This tutorial will
> > show you how to Move/Add that shortcut to the Start Menu.
> > 
> > http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/79571-start-menu-shortcuts.html
> > 
> > Hope this helps,
> > Shawn> > 
> 
> So I have to do this all the time? 
> 
> Can't I just creat a x86 folder that will have all the 32-bit files
> in and I wont have to keep copying and pasting?

Usama,

No, it should do this automatically for you. When you have the 64 bit
Vista, the 32 bit programs will install in the "C:\Program Files (x86)"
folder and the 64 bit programs will install in the "C:\Program Files"
folder. At the end of the program installation it should also place a
shortcut for that program in the Start Menu for the program unless you
unchecked that option while installing the program.


-- 
Brink

*There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask
them.*
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*Please post feedback to help others.*
date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:05:49 -0500   author:   Brink

Re: Program Files - Help Please!!   
Brink;859148 Wrote: 
> > Usama;858959 Wrote: 
> > > > Brink;858802 Wrote: 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hello Usama,
> > > 
> > > Usually when you install either 32bit or 64bit programs, they should
> > > have an option to allow them to place a shortcut in the Start Menu and
> > > sometimes on the Desktop. If they do not, then you will need to manually
> > > create a shortcut from the program's ".exe" file and move it the Start
> > > Menu All Programs area. This tutorial will show you how to Move/Add that
> > > shortcut to the Start Menu.
> > > 
> > > http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/79571-start-menu-shortcuts.html
> > > 
> > > Hope this helps,
> > > Shawn> > > > 
> > 
> > So I have to do this all the time? 
> > 
> > Can't I just creat a x86 folder that will have all the 32-bit files
> > in and I wont have to keep copying and pasting?> > 
> 
> Usama,
> 
> No, it should do this automatically for you. When you have the 64 bit
> Vista, the 32 bit programs will install in the "C:\Program Files
> (x86)" folder and the 64 bit programs will install in the "C:\Program
> Files" folder. At the end of the program installation it should also
> place a shortcut for that program in the Start Menu for the program
> unless you unchecked that option while installing the program.

Most of the stuff are game demos and games, testing my new PC. I did
not see a option when installing Crysis or the demos.


-- 
Usama
date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 06:44:29 -0500   author:   Usama

Re: Program Files - Help Please!!   
Usama;859632 Wrote: 
> > Brink;859148 Wrote: 
> > > > Usama;858959 Wrote: 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > So I have to do this all the time? 
> > > 
> > > Can't I just creat a x86 folder that will have all the 32-bit files in
> > > and I wont have to keep copying and pasting?> > > > 
> > 
> > Usama,
> > 
> > No, it should do this automatically for you. When you have the 64
> > bit Vista, the 32 bit programs will install in the "C:\Program Files
> > (x86)" folder and the 64 bit programs will install in the
> > "C:\Program Files" folder. At the end of the program installation it
> > should also place a shortcut for that program in the Start Menu for
> > the program unless you unchecked that option while installing the
> > program.> > 
> 
> Most of the stuff are game demos and games, testing my new PC. I did
> not see a option when installing Crysis or the demos.

Usama,

I was getting the feeling that it may be from a game. Games will
sometimes not place a shortcut in the Start Menu like normal programs.
Instead it will just place a shortcut in the "Games Explorer" window in
the Start Menu. You can look at the screenshots in the examples in this
tutorial to see where to look and open the Games Explorer window.

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/173413-games-explorer-link-fix.html

Hope this helps,
Shawn


-- 
Brink

*There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask
them.*
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*Please post feedback to help others.*
date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:55:28 -0500   author:   Brink

Re: Program Files - Help Please!!   
Brink;859864 Wrote: 
> > Usama;859632 Wrote: 
> > > > Brink;859148 Wrote: 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Usama,
> > > 
> > > No, it should do this automatically for you. When you have the 64 bit
> > > Vista, the 32 bit programs will install in the "C:\Program Files (x86)"
> > > folder and the 64 bit programs will install in the "C:\Program Files"
> > > folder. At the end of the program installation it should also place a
> > > shortcut for that program in the Start Menu for the program unless you
> > > unchecked that option while installing the program.> > > > 
> > 
> > Most of the stuff are game demos and games, testing my new PC. I
> > did not see a option when installing Crysis or the demos.> > 
> 
> Usama,
> 
> I was getting the feeling that it may be from a game. Games will
> sometimes not place a shortcut in the Start Menu like normal programs.
> Instead it will just place a shortcut in the "Games Explorer" window
> in the Start Menu. You can look at the screenshots in the examples in
> this tutorial to see where to look and open the Games Explorer window.
> 
> http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/173413-games-explorer-link-fix.html
> 
> Hope this helps,
> Shawn


Yea it is game demos.


-- 
Usama
date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:41:34 -0500   author:   Usama

Re: Program Files - Help Please!!   
Usama;860738 Wrote: 
> > Brink;859864 Wrote: 
> > > > Usama;859632 Wrote: 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Most of the stuff are game demos and games, testing my new PC. I did
> > > not see a option when installing Crysis or the demos.> > > > 
> > 
> > Usama,
> > 
> > I was getting the feeling that it may be from a game. Games will
> > sometimes not place a shortcut in the Start Menu like normal
> > programs. Instead it will just place a shortcut in the "Games
> > Explorer" window in the Start Menu. You can look at the screenshots
> > in the examples in this tutorial to see where to look and open the
> > Games Explorer window.
> > 
> > http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/173413-games-explorer-link-fix.html
> > 
> > Hope this helps,
> > Shawn> > 
> 
> 
> Yea it is game demos.

Hehe. Did it have the shortcut for it in the Games Explorer window?


-- 
Brink

*There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask
them.*
'*VISTA FORUMS*' (http://www.vistax64.com)
*Please post feedback to help others.*
date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:57:07 -0500   author:   Brink

Re: Program Files - Help Please!!   
Brink;860854 Wrote: 
> > Usama;860738 Wrote: 
> > > > Brink;859864 Wrote: 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Usama,
> > > 
> > > I was getting the feeling that it may be from a game. Games will
> > > sometimes not place a shortcut in the Start Menu like normal programs.
> > > Instead it will just place a shortcut in the "Games Explorer" window in
> > > the Start Menu. You can look at the screenshots in the examples in this
> > > tutorial to see where to look and open the Games Explorer window.
> > > 
> > > http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/173413-games-explorer-link-fix.html
> > > 
> > > Hope this helps,
> > > Shawn> > > > 
> > 
> > 
> > Yea it is game demos.> > 
> 
> Hehe. Did it have the shortcut for it in the Games Explorer window?

Ya.


-- 
Usama
date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:30:14 -0500   author:   Usama

Re: Program Files - Help Please!!   
Usama;861807 Wrote: 
> > Brink;860854 Wrote: 
> > > > Usama;860738 Wrote: 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Yea it is game demos.> > > > 
> > 
> > Hehe. Did it have the shortcut for it in the Games Explorer window?> > 
> 
> Ya.

Ok. Good. I'm happy to hear that all is ok now. :geek:


-- 
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them.*
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date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:33:31 -0500   author:   Brink

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