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date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 19:57:01 -0700,    group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general        back       


Microsoft PhotoDraw / Photoshop / Illustrator Thumbail Previews Go   
I've used XP and was able to see a 'preview' of the file image (such as a 
picture) of a MS PhotoDraw, Adobe Photoshop/Illustrator drawing.  But since 
moving to Vista (64bit Home Premium) there is NO preview (to explain this 
better, look at a picture thumbail and the same applies to these).

Any idea how to 'turn on' previews in thumbnails?
date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 19:57:01 -0700   author:   Alan_P

Re: Microsoft PhotoDraw / Photoshop / Illustrator Thumbail Previews Go   
Alan_P wrote:
> I've used XP and was able to see a 'preview' of the file image (such as a 
> picture) of a MS PhotoDraw, Adobe Photoshop/Illustrator drawing.  But since 
> moving to Vista (64bit Home Premium) there is NO preview (to explain this 
> better, look at a picture thumbail and the same applies to these).
> 
> Any idea how to 'turn on' previews in thumbnails?

Under XP X64 & Vista X64 you will not see preview thumbnails of Adobe's 
.ai, .psd or .pdf files.
Maybe in the upcoming CS4 we will...hopefully.

As for MS PhotoDraw...I think I last saw that app what...10 yrs ago?
I have no idea about it's thumbnails.
date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 21:57:29 -0700   author:   Frank

Re: Microsoft PhotoDraw / Photoshop / Illustrator Thumbail Preview   
Thanks everone for your assistance...I figured it might have been a dll as 
well...ugh...oh well.

Yeah PhotoDraw was back in 2000 (1999) but was such a great program, that 
tons of people still use it...very simple to use and for quick graphics, it 
is on par with Photoshop and Illustrator (considering you don't want to get 
too advanced with drawings).  Everyone always asks what software I use and 
they are shocked it is that old...but it's fantastic.  A shame Microsoft got 
rid of it despite it's hardcore following :)  It's just hard to view all the 
images now via thumbnails! haha

"the granter of sina" wrote:

> Frank I have not tried this dll under a 64 bit OS.
> 
> Indeed you are right! It wont work. For once, you caught me :-) Good show.
> 
> They (adobe) will not add back the thumbnails in windows explorer, they 
> dropped that some versions ago, because some claimed
> it made files "unmovable, undeletable" because the dll had access to it. 
> They also wanted to promote their own browser application called BRIDGE,
> so what adobe officially says is USE BRIDGE.
> 
> I have another solution though, I will look into it and post back for the 
> OP. There is a free app that adds thumbnails in explorer for these files but 
> I have not tried it since
> I only used the dll in the past.
> 
> 
> 
> "Frank"  wrote in message 
> news:O#YCySpKJHA.1156@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > Alan_P wrote:
> >> I've used XP and was able to see a 'preview' of the file image (such as a 
> >> picture) of a MS PhotoDraw, Adobe Photoshop/Illustrator drawing.  But 
> >> since moving to Vista (64bit Home Premium) there is NO preview (to 
> >> explain this better, look at a picture thumbail and the same applies to 
> >> these).
> >>
> >> Any idea how to 'turn on' previews in thumbnails?
> >
> > Under XP X64 & Vista X64 you will not see preview thumbnails of Adobe's 
> > .ai, .psd or .pdf files.
> > Maybe in the upcoming CS4 we will...hopefully.
> >
> > As for MS PhotoDraw...I think I last saw that app what...10 yrs ago?
> > I have no idea about it's thumbnails. 
> 
>
date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 12:01:01 -0700   author:   Alan_P

Re: Microsoft PhotoDraw / Photoshop / Illustrator Thumbail Preview   
Oh I forgot...the only thing I can add is:

- This all worked under Windows XP SP2 (Illustrator 10, Photoshop CS2, 
PhotoDraw v2).

- Upon reinstalling the same software on Vista, it doesnt work.

I'm almost curious if Microsoft did this on purpose to force the purchase of 
Office 2007 as I understand you can create 'preview' thumbnails in that one 
only.  Bizzare.

"the granter of sina" wrote:

> Frank I have not tried this dll under a 64 bit OS.
> 
> Indeed you are right! It wont work. For once, you caught me :-) Good show.
> 
> They (adobe) will not add back the thumbnails in windows explorer, they 
> dropped that some versions ago, because some claimed
> it made files "unmovable, undeletable" because the dll had access to it. 
> They also wanted to promote their own browser application called BRIDGE,
> so what adobe officially says is USE BRIDGE.
> 
> I have another solution though, I will look into it and post back for the 
> OP. There is a free app that adds thumbnails in explorer for these files but 
> I have not tried it since
> I only used the dll in the past.
> 
> 
> 
> "Frank"  wrote in message 
> news:O#YCySpKJHA.1156@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > Alan_P wrote:
> >> I've used XP and was able to see a 'preview' of the file image (such as a 
> >> picture) of a MS PhotoDraw, Adobe Photoshop/Illustrator drawing.  But 
> >> since moving to Vista (64bit Home Premium) there is NO preview (to 
> >> explain this better, look at a picture thumbail and the same applies to 
> >> these).
> >>
> >> Any idea how to 'turn on' previews in thumbnails?
> >
> > Under XP X64 & Vista X64 you will not see preview thumbnails of Adobe's 
> > .ai, .psd or .pdf files.
> > Maybe in the upcoming CS4 we will...hopefully.
> >
> > As for MS PhotoDraw...I think I last saw that app what...10 yrs ago?
> > I have no idea about it's thumbnails. 
> 
>
date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 12:31:03 -0700   author:   Alan_P

Re: Microsoft PhotoDraw / Photoshop / Illustrator Thumbail Preview   
Alan_P wrote:

> Oh I forgot...the only thing I can add is:
> 
> - This all worked under Windows XP SP2 (Illustrator 10, Photoshop CS2, 
> PhotoDraw v2).
> 
> - Upon reinstalling the same software on Vista, it doesnt work.
> 
> I'm almost curious if Microsoft did this on purpose to force the purchase of 
> Office 2007 as I understand you can create 'preview' thumbnails in that one 
> only.  Bizzare.

Can you say "X64 bit' OS? I can see all of my thumbnails under Vista X32 
and most all of them under Vista X64 save for Adobe's .pdf, .psd and .ai 
files.

It is up to the 3rd party software developers to make their thumbnails 
viewable under X64 OS's.
Got it?
date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 13:09:45 -0700   author:   Frank

Re: Microsoft PhotoDraw / Photoshop / Illustrator Thumbail Preview   
actually there are specialized programs that create thumbnails for all sorts 
of file types in windows explorer.

But Im not sure that they are updated for vista and 64 bit. For example this 
was a freeware for xp 32 bit
http://sourceforge.net/projects/thumbview/#item3rd-1

I thought you said that 64 bit is fine.. lol its seems that one by one its 
limitation start to pop up .. huh?


To the OP,
There is a preview handler for PSD, take a look here (Im not sure this works 
on 64 bit vista)
http://www.codeproject.com/KB/vista/PhotoshopPreviewHandler.aspx


"Frank"  wrote in message 
news:ehwgkQxKJHA.5460@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Alan_P wrote:
>
>> Oh I forgot...the only thing I can add is:
>>
>> - This all worked under Windows XP SP2 (Illustrator 10, Photoshop CS2, 
>> PhotoDraw v2).
>>
>> - Upon reinstalling the same software on Vista, it doesnt work.
>>
>> I'm almost curious if Microsoft did this on purpose to force the purchase 
>> of Office 2007 as I understand you can create 'preview' thumbnails in 
>> that one only.  Bizzare.
>
> Can you say "X64 bit' OS? I can see all of my thumbnails under Vista X32 
> and most all of them under Vista X64 save for Adobe's .pdf, .psd and .ai 
> files.
>
> It is up to the 3rd party software developers to make their thumbnails 
> viewable under X64 OS's.
> Got it?
date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:09:14 +0300   author:   the granter of sina

Re: Microsoft PhotoDraw / Photoshop / Illustrator Thumbail Preview   
the granter of sina wrote:

> actually there are specialized programs that create thumbnails for all 
> sorts of file types in windows explorer.
> 
> But Im not sure that they are updated for vista and 64 bit. For example 
> this was a freeware for xp 32 bit
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/thumbview/#item3rd-1
> 
> I thought you said that 64 bit is fine.. lol its seems that one by one 
> its limitation start to pop up .. huh?

Maybe your inability to comprehend what you've just read is becoming 
suspect.
I said in my first post (try google, I think you're familiar with it) 
that X64 (XP & Vista) can't see those file extensions and that I've got 
one or two (old) apps that don't work in X64 (XP or Vista).
That's it.
Otherwise X64 has been my OS of choice for daily usage for yrs.
> 
> 
> To the OP,
> There is a preview handler for PSD, take a look here (Im not sure this 
> works on 64 bit vista)
> http://www.codeproject.com/KB/vista/PhotoshopPreviewHandler.aspx
> 
We always install CS3 first then install PS v7.01 so that all Adobe 
thumbnails are viewable on X32 (XP & Vista).
PS 7 has that dll or you can get it from Adobe.
However, they are not viewable on any X64 (XP or Vista).
Got it?
date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 16:53:40 -0700   author:   Frank

Re: Microsoft PhotoDraw / Photoshop / Illustrator Thumbail Preview   
Ahhhhhh....64bit!!!  I can believe that.  I was just reviewing one of my old 
old computers (with Windows 2000) and it was able to display a thumbnail 
preview of the Microsoft .mix extension even though there was no application 
to display it.  Same went for XP box...but all were not using 64bit.

I did some more 'web' research and it looks like on the adobe side for the 
.psd (photoshop) and .ai files, there was some sort of restriction put into 
place by microsoft and adobe.   who knows if that is true, however.

A little sad that Microsoft won't even support their own extensions with 
thumnail file previews...I understand that Office 2007 allows 'preview' 
thumbnail icons, but you can't do that for any prior office versions.  Sounds 
like MS wants upgrades LOL

"Frank" wrote:

> Alan_P wrote:
> 
> > Oh I forgot...the only thing I can add is:
> > 
> > - This all worked under Windows XP SP2 (Illustrator 10, Photoshop CS2, 
> > PhotoDraw v2).
> > 
> > - Upon reinstalling the same software on Vista, it doesnt work.
> > 
> > I'm almost curious if Microsoft did this on purpose to force the purchase of 
> > Office 2007 as I understand you can create 'preview' thumbnails in that one 
> > only.  Bizzare.
> 
> Can you say "X64 bit' OS? I can see all of my thumbnails under Vista X32 
> and most all of them under Vista X64 save for Adobe's .pdf, .psd and .ai 
> files.
> 
> It is up to the 3rd party software developers to make their thumbnails 
> viewable under X64 OS's.
> Got it?
>
date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 00:48:00 -0700   author:   Alan_P

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