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date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 15:23:17 -0500,
group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
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Re: stopping dpupdchk.exe
"news.microsoft.com" wrote in message
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> "Mr. Arnold" <MR. Arnold@Arnold.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> "news.microsoft.com" wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:uXpsk3kKJHA.5692@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> "news.microsoft.com" wrote in message
>>>> news:OJm7hzkKJHA.1308@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>I found the below information to stop dpupdchk.exe from running and
>>>>>eating up 3 to 5 MBs of RAM
>>>>
>>>> If you really are so concerned by the loss of up to 5 MB RAM, then you
>>>> really haven't got enough.
>>>
>>>
>>> Why not just answer the question instead of making useless comments?
>>
>> Do you know where dpupdchk.exe is located? If you do, then go to the file
>> using Explore to access the exe and go to the Security tab, and for every
>> user account that can access the exe, you'll set the permissions on each
>> account to DENY READ & EXECUTE, so that no account can run the program,
>> of course you have to right-click the file and then use Properties with
>> Explore.
>
> User accounts is turned off since I'm the only user. There is nothing, no
> box to check where "Deny Read & Execute is." How do I turn it off in this
> case when I can't click/check anything there?
No, NTFS is not turned off. Do you know what NTFS is about? If you don't
know what it's about, then use Google and look it up.
You use the Edit button to edit an account's permissions.
>
>>
>> If you can't see the Security tab, then go to Control Panel/Folder
>> Options/View tab/ and disable Simple File Sharing that exposes the
>> Security tab.
>
> The security tab is there but I can't check anything since there are no
> check boxes and the checks are grayed out under "allow."
use the Edit button
>
date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 06:58:58 -0400
author: Mr. Arnold MR.
Re: stopping dpupdchk.exe
"Mr. Arnold" <MR. Arnold@Arnold.com> wrote in message
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>
> "news.microsoft.com" wrote in message
> news:OYRnIGqKJHA.1012@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Mr. Arnold" <MR. Arnold@Arnold.com> wrote in message
>> news:u8fh9MnKJHA.1012@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> "news.microsoft.com" wrote in message
>>> news:OZP410mKJHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>> "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:uXpsk3kKJHA.5692@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> "news.microsoft.com" wrote in message
>>>>> news:OJm7hzkKJHA.1308@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>I found the below information to stop dpupdchk.exe from running and
>>>>>>eating up 3 to 5 MBs of RAM
>>>>>
>>>>> If you really are so concerned by the loss of up to 5 MB RAM, then you
>>>>> really haven't got enough.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why not just answer the question instead of making useless comments?
>>>
>>> Do you know where dpupdchk.exe is located? If you do, then go to the
>>> file using Explore to access the exe and go to the Security tab, and for
>>> every user account that can access the exe, you'll set the permissions
>>> on each account to DENY READ & EXECUTE, so that no account can run the
>>> program, of course you have to right-click the file and then use
>>> Properties with Explore.
>>
>> User accounts is turned off since I'm the only user. There is nothing, no
>> box to check where "Deny Read & Execute is." How do I turn it off in
>> this case when I can't click/check anything there?
>
> No, NTFS is not turned off. Do you know what NTFS is about? If you don't
> know what it's about, then use Google and look it up.
Google gave me this: "NTFS supersedes the FAT file system as the preferred
file system for Microsoft's "Windows"-branded operating systems." I didn't
say NTFS was turned off. I said I have no "user accounts" on this PC. It's
unchecked but I got it done. I don't want all kinds of stuff on this PC
eating up RAM.
Thanks..............................
> You use the Edit button to edit an account's permissions.
>
>>
>>>
>>> If you can't see the Security tab, then go to Control Panel/Folder
>>> Options/View tab/ and disable Simple File Sharing that exposes the
>>> Security tab.
>>
>> The security tab is there but I can't check anything since there are no
>> check boxes and the checks are grayed out under "allow."
>
> use the Edit button
>>
>
date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:46:10 -0500
author: news.microsoft.com
Re: stopping dpupdchk.exe
"news.microsoft.com" wrote in message
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> "Mr. Arnold" <MR. Arnold@Arnold.com> wrote in message
> news:OPbokdsKJHA.4708@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "news.microsoft.com" wrote in message
>> news:OYRnIGqKJHA.1012@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> "Mr. Arnold" <MR. Arnold@Arnold.com> wrote in message
>>> news:u8fh9MnKJHA.1012@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>> "news.microsoft.com" wrote in message
>>>> news:OZP410mKJHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>> news:uXpsk3kKJHA.5692@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> "news.microsoft.com" wrote in message
>>>>>> news:OJm7hzkKJHA.1308@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>I found the below information to stop dpupdchk.exe from running and
>>>>>>>eating up 3 to 5 MBs of RAM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you really are so concerned by the loss of up to 5 MB RAM, then
>>>>>> you really haven't got enough.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Why not just answer the question instead of making useless comments?
>>>>
>>>> Do you know where dpupdchk.exe is located? If you do, then go to the
>>>> file using Explore to access the exe and go to the Security tab, and
>>>> for every user account that can access the exe, you'll set the
>>>> permissions on each account to DENY READ & EXECUTE, so that no account
>>>> can run the program, of course you have to right-click the file and
>>>> then use Properties with Explore.
>>>
>>> User accounts is turned off since I'm the only user. There is nothing,
>>> no box to check where "Deny Read & Execute is." How do I turn it off in
>>> this case when I can't click/check anything there?
>>
>> No, NTFS is not turned off. Do you know what NTFS is about? If you don't
>> know what it's about, then use Google and look it up.
>
> Google gave me this: "NTFS supersedes the FAT file system as the
> preferred file system for Microsoft's "Windows"-branded operating
> systems." I didn't say NTFS was turned off. I said I have no "user
> accounts" on this PC.
Sorry, you are wrong. You mentioned that you don't have to logon to your
machine when you boot it. You stated this in another post I believe.
Someone did what is in the link for you in the initial setup of the system.
I think your problem is that you can't determine what that user account is
by name, because you don't see it as you boot the machine, and Vista uses
that account to login automatically.
http://www.onetipaday.com/2007/05/27/how-to-auto-logon-to-a-user-account-at-startup-with-vista/
If NTFS is in play, then at the very least, a user-id must be given with no
password to NTFS so that it can be used to login to the system. An user
account is being used. The user account is given permissions by NTFS (NT
File System) to access folders, files and the registry by user account
permissions.
You need to go to Control Panel/Admin Tools/Computer Management/Users and
find out what is the lone or other user accounts that are on that machine.
The user account that you must be using when Vista auto logs-on is part of
the Administrtors group, otherwise, if it was not a part of the
Administrators group, you would be stopped from doing a whole lot of things.
And if you go back to the Secuirty tab, you will see that
Administrators(machine-name)administrators is a group that is on all folders
and files.
date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 06:56:36 -0400
author: Mr. Arnold MR.
Re: stopping dpupdchk.exe
"Mr. Arnold" <MR. Arnold@Arnold.com> wrote in message
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>
> "news.microsoft.com" wrote in message
> news:%23sX9uS2KJHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> "Mr. Arnold" <MR. Arnold@Arnold.com> wrote in message
>> news:OPbokdsKJHA.4708@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> "news.microsoft.com" wrote in message
>>> news:OYRnIGqKJHA.1012@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>> "Mr. Arnold" <MR. Arnold@Arnold.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:u8fh9MnKJHA.1012@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>
>>>>> "news.microsoft.com" wrote in message
>>>>> news:OZP410mKJHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:uXpsk3kKJHA.5692@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> "news.microsoft.com" wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:OJm7hzkKJHA.1308@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>I found the below information to stop dpupdchk.exe from running and
>>>>>>>>eating up 3 to 5 MBs of RAM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you really are so concerned by the loss of up to 5 MB RAM, then
>>>>>>> you really haven't got enough.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why not just answer the question instead of making useless comments?
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you know where dpupdchk.exe is located? If you do, then go to the
>>>>> file using Explore to access the exe and go to the Security tab, and
>>>>> for every user account that can access the exe, you'll set the
>>>>> permissions on each account to DENY READ & EXECUTE, so that no account
>>>>> can run the program, of course you have to right-click the file and
>>>>> then use Properties with Explore.
>>>>
>>>> User accounts is turned off since I'm the only user. There is nothing,
>>>> no box to check where "Deny Read & Execute is." How do I turn it off
>>>> in this case when I can't click/check anything there?
>>>
>>> No, NTFS is not turned off. Do you know what NTFS is about? If you don't
>>> know what it's about, then use Google and look it up.
>>
>> Google gave me this: "NTFS supersedes the FAT file system as the
>> preferred file system for Microsoft's "Windows"-branded operating
>> systems." I didn't say NTFS was turned off. I said I have no "user
>> accounts" on this PC.
>
> Sorry, you are wrong. You mentioned that you don't have to logon to your
> machine when you boot it. You stated this in another post I believe.
Yes. How is that turning off NTFS?
> Someone did what is in the link for you in the initial setup of the
> system. I think your problem is that you can't determine what that user
> account is by name, because you don't see it as you boot the machine, and
> Vista uses that account to login automatically.
-->I'm sure that's what happens.
>
> http://www.onetipaday.com/2007/05/27/how-to-auto-logon-to-a-user-account-at-startup-with-vista/
From the site above:
Click on the Start button and type in 'netplwiz'. This will open the
Advanced User Accounts menu
In the Users tab, highlight the account you want to login to Vista
automatically with, and then 'must enter a username and password to use this
computer'
Click on 'Apply'.
A new window will now popup asking you to enter the password of the account
you've just highlighted. Do this, and then click 'Ok'
Click 'Ok' on the Advanced User Accounts menu to finish...........
--> There is no password for the Administrators account on this PC. I
can't put one there because there isn't one. Why all this confusion that
those of us who are not geeks have to suffer through? Why on a HOME
machine? All I want it total control of my own PC.
> If NTFS is in play, then at the very least, a user-id must be given with
> no password to NTFS so that it can be used to login to the system. An user
> account is being used. The user account is given permissions by NTFS (NT
> File System) to access folders, files and the registry by user account
> permissions.
Great! How do I get rid of all this UC aggravation and gain total control of
this PC?
>
> You need to go to Control Panel/Admin Tools/Computer Management/Users and
> find out what is the lone or other user accounts that are on that machine.
There are no "USERS" listed under "Control Panel/Admin Tools/Computer
Management/" in my version of Vista Home Premium.
> The user account that you must be using when Vista auto logs-on is part of
> the Administrtors group, otherwise, if it was not a part of the
> Administrators group, you would be stopped from doing a whole lot of
> things.
>
> And if you go back to the Secuirty tab, you will see that
> Administrators(machine-name)administrators is a group that is on all
> folders and files.
Which "security tab" are you talking about? On which window?
>
>
>
date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 16:02:05 -0500
author: news.microsoft.com
Re: stopping dpupdchk.exe
"news.microsoft.com" wrote in message
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> "Mr. Arnold" <MR. Arnold@Arnold.com> wrote in message
> news:OwK%23QA5KJHA.4292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "news.microsoft.com" wrote in message
>> news:%23sX9uS2KJHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> "Mr. Arnold" <MR. Arnold@Arnold.com> wrote in message
>>> news:OPbokdsKJHA.4708@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>> "news.microsoft.com" wrote in message
>>>> news:OYRnIGqKJHA.1012@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mr. Arnold" <MR. Arnold@Arnold.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:u8fh9MnKJHA.1012@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "news.microsoft.com" wrote in message
>>>>>> news:OZP410mKJHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:uXpsk3kKJHA.5692@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> "news.microsoft.com" wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:OJm7hzkKJHA.1308@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>I found the below information to stop dpupdchk.exe from running and
>>>>>>>>>eating up 3 to 5 MBs of RAM
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you really are so concerned by the loss of up to 5 MB RAM, then
>>>>>>>> you really haven't got enough.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why not just answer the question instead of making useless comments?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you know where dpupdchk.exe is located? If you do, then go to the
>>>>>> file using Explore to access the exe and go to the Security tab, and
>>>>>> for every user account that can access the exe, you'll set the
>>>>>> permissions on each account to DENY READ & EXECUTE, so that no
>>>>>> account can run the program, of course you have to right-click the
>>>>>> file and then use Properties with Explore.
>>>>>
>>>>> User accounts is turned off since I'm the only user. There is nothing,
>>>>> no box to check where "Deny Read & Execute is." How do I turn it off
>>>>> in this case when I can't click/check anything there?
>>>>
>>>> No, NTFS is not turned off. Do you know what NTFS is about? If you
>>>> don't know what it's about, then use Google and look it up.
>>>
>>> Google gave me this: "NTFS supersedes the FAT file system as the
>>> preferred file system for Microsoft's "Windows"-branded operating
>>> systems." I didn't say NTFS was turned off. I said I have no "user
>>> accounts" on this PC.
>>
>> Sorry, you are wrong. You mentioned that you don't have to logon to your
>> machine when you boot it. You stated this in another post I believe.
>
> Yes. How is that turning off NTFS?
You cannot turn off NTFS, period. NTFS is a major part of folder, file and
registry secuirty, and permmions from NTFS is granted by user account.
>
>> Someone did what is in the link for you in the initial setup of the
>> system. I think your problem is that you can't determine what that user
>> account is by name, because you don't see it as you boot the machine, and
>> Vista uses that account to login automatically.
>
> -->I'm sure that's what happens.
>
>>
>> http://www.onetipaday.com/2007/05/27/how-to-auto-logon-to-a-user-account-at-startup-with-vista/
>
> From the site above:
> Click on the Start button and type in 'netplwiz'. This will open the
> Advanced User Accounts menu
> In the Users tab, highlight the account you want to login to Vista
> automatically with, and then 'must enter a username and password to use
> this computer'
> Click on 'Apply'.
> A new window will now popup asking you to enter the password of the
> account you've just highlighted. Do this, and then click 'Ok'
> Click 'Ok' on the Advanced User Accounts menu to finish...........
>
> --> There is no password for the Administrators account on this PC. I
> can't put one there because there isn't one. Why all this confusion that
> those of us who are not geeks have to suffer through? Why on a HOME
> machine? All I want it total control of my own PC.
>
I am going to tell you again. The minimal requirement for setting up a
user-id on NTFS is user-id, a password is not required.
>> If NTFS is in play, then at the very least, a user-id must be given with
>> no password to NTFS so that it can be used to login to the system. An
>> user account is being used. The user account is given permissions by NTFS
>> (NT File System) to access folders, files and the registry by user
>> account permissions.
>
> Great! How do I get rid of all this UC aggravation and gain total control
> of this PC?
You can't trun off NTFS. You can't get rid of it. You can't convert back to
FAT16 or FAT32, and those are the file systems that don't have secuirty
applied to them.
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc766145.aspx
>
>>
>> You need to go to Control Panel/Admin Tools/Computer Management/Users and
>> find out what is the lone or other user accounts that are on that
>> machine.
>
> There are no "USERS" listed under "Control Panel/Admin Tools/Computer
> Management/" in my version of Vista Home Premium.
I didn't think I had to tell you to goto Control Panel/Admin
Tools/Computer/Management/Local users and groups/USERS.
It can't be that hard for you to add 2 + 2.
>
>> The user account that you must be using when Vista auto logs-on is part
>> of the Administrtors group, otherwise, if it was not a part of the
>> Administrators group, you would be stopped from doing a whole lot of
>> things.
>>
>> And if you go back to the Secuirty tab, you will see that
>> Administrators(machine-name)administrators is a group that is on all
>> folders and files.
>
> Which "security tab" are you talking about? On which window?
Well, you mean to tell me that if you goto Explore, right-click a folder or
a file in a folder, select Properties that you don't see the Secuirty tab
and that you don't see accounts on the folder or file?
date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 17:58:30 -0400
author: Mr. Arnold MR.
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