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date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 14:55:07 +0530,    group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general        back       


Some Web Pages do not open if www included!   
Has anyone run into this  -  a website will only work if I *do not *type
the 'www' in the address bar!  And if so do you know why this happens
and is there a way to resolve it.

I have Vista64 and from day 1 I ran into this problem.  I contacted a
few companies and they ensured me the websites were up so I started to
look into my own computer.  All I figured out was to remove the www and
I have access to the sites.  However, some of these business sites have
login sections and on a number of them it redirects me back to the 'www'
path to gain access and I can't get in.

It certainly appears to be something on my side but I have no clue as
to how to change this, or even where to start.  Any help appreciated.

Navcopy


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date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 14:55:07 +0530   author:   NavCopy

Re: Some Web Pages do not open if www included!   
I believe it's a web server configuration issue - a setting the website 
owner/server admin put in place - nothing on your computer causes this 
problem.



"NavCopy"  wrote in message 
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>
> Has anyone run into this  -  a website will only work if I *do not *type
> the 'www' in the address bar!  And if so do you know why this happens
> and is there a way to resolve it.
>
> I have Vista64 and from day 1 I ran into this problem.  I contacted a
> few companies and they ensured me the websites were up so I started to
> look into my own computer.  All I figured out was to remove the www and
> I have access to the sites.  However, some of these business sites have
> login sections and on a number of them it redirects me back to the 'www'
> path to gain access and I can't get in.
>
> It certainly appears to be something on my side but I have no clue as
> to how to change this, or even where to start.  Any help appreciated.
>
> Navcopy
>
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date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 17:43:24 +0800   author:   Andrew Murray

Re: Some Web Pages do not open if www included!   
If it is something on the web server side would we not expect this
problem to be reported by many users who have run into the same problem?
I have searched the web several times and was unsuccsesful finding any
reference to this problem, and this is why I expected it to be something
on my side.  Especially since I have 3 other systems running XP and this
is not an issue.

Anyone have any thoughts?


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date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 18:09:37 +0530   author:   NavCopy

Re: Some Web Pages do not open if www included!   
Please give examples here so it can be verified.

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Windows Desktop Experience


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>
> If it is something on the web server side would we not expect this
> problem to be reported by many users who have run into the same problem?
> I have searched the web several times and was unsuccsesful finding any
> reference to this problem, and this is why I expected it to be something
> on my side.  Especially since I have 3 other systems running XP and this
> is not an issue.
>
> Anyone have any thoughts?
>
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date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 08:59:27 -0400   author:   Richard Urban

Re: Some Web Pages do not open if www included!   
Here are a few sites I have trouble with:

'NovaSport Distribution - Custom Sport Merchandise'
(http://www.novasport.ca)
'Welcome To CPS Keystone' (http://www.keystoneline.com)
'.: Sportdecals .:. Serving Teams and Schools Since 1972 :.'
(http://www.sportdecals.com)
'Pro-Tuff Decals - football helmet decals and stickers for lacrosse,
hockey, baseball plus custom printed t-shirts'
(http://www.protuffdecals.com)


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date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 19:29:05 +0530   author:   NavCopy

Re: Some Web Pages do not open if www included!   
"NavCopy"  wrote in message 
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>
> Here are a few sites I have trouble with:
>
> 'NovaSport Distribution - Custom Sport Merchandise'
> (http://www.novasport.ca)

Opens fine here!


> 'Welcome To CPS Keystone' (http://www.keystoneline.com)

> '.: Sportdecals .:. Serving Teams and Schools Since 1972 :.'
> (http://www.sportdecals.com)

Opens fine here!


> 'Pro-Tuff Decals - football helmet decals and stickers for lacrosse,
> hockey, baseball plus custom printed t-shirts'
> (http://www.protuffdecals.com)

Opens fine here!


Have you done anything to your search options within Vista?

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date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 13:43:56 -0400   author:   Richard Urban

Re: Some Web Pages do not open if www included!   
On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 19:29:05 +0530, NavCopy
 wrote:

>
>Here are a few sites I have trouble with:
>
>'NovaSport Distribution - Custom Sport Merchandise'
>(http://www.novasport.ca)
>'Welcome To CPS Keystone' (http://www.keystoneline.com)
>'.: Sportdecals .:. Serving Teams and Schools Since 1972 :.'
>(http://www.sportdecals.com)
>'Pro-Tuff Decals - football helmet decals and stickers for lacrosse,
>hockey, baseball plus custom printed t-shirts'
>(http://www.protuffdecals.com)

I grabbed the first site with a program that works at the http
interface level. I didn't detect any difference in the content it sent
whether I used the www or not. 

Generally, the www.server.dom vs. server.dom is handled through DNS
settings (theirs, not yours). You might want to check in nslookup to
see if you can lookup both names.
date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 15:23:22 -0400   author:   +Bob+

Re: Some Web Pages do not open if www included!   
This being a new OS for me I can't recall what I may or may not have
done over the lst few months.

Nav


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date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 05:08:47 +0530   author:   NavCopy

Re: Some Web Pages do not open if www included!   
Generally, the www.server.dom vs. server.dom is handled through DNS
settings (theirs, not yours). You might want to check in nslookup to
see if you can lookup both names.


I'm not sure if I did it correct but when I run nslookup with/without
'www' I get the same address so it looks like it works.  But I do not know
if it is done correct as this is all new to me.   All I did was enter the
web address after nslookup, is this correct?

Nav


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date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 05:11:55 +0530   author:   NavCopy

Re: Some Web Pages do not open if www included!   
NavCopy  wrote:

(Some Web Pages do not open if www included!)

>This being a new OS for me I can't recall what I may or may not have
>done over the lst few months.

It depends on exactly what each web site has registered in the DNS
(Domain Name System, which translates names like www.microsoft.com to
a numeric IP address). Some register only with the www prefix, some
both with and without it, some only without it. It doesn't mean that
anything on your machine is malfunctioning.

And please don't put an important part of your question only in the
subject. Make sure the entire thing is in the body of the message.

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date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 08:52:57 -0400   author:   Tim Slattery

Re: Some Web Pages do not open if www included!   
Tim Slattery;108700 Wrote: 
> NavCopy  wrote:
> 
> (Some Web Pages do not open if www included!)
> 
> >This being a new OS for me I can't recall what I may or may not have
> >done over the lst few months.
> 
> It depends on exactly what each web site has registered in the DNS
> (Domain Name System, which translates names like 'Microsoft
> Corporation' (http://www.microsoft.com) to
> a numeric IP address). Some register only with the www prefix, some
> both with and without it, some only without it. It doesn't mean that
> anything on your machine is malfunctioning.
> 
> And please don't put an important part of your question only in the
> subject. Make sure the entire thing is in the body of the message.
> 
> --
> Tim Slattery
> MS MVP(Shell/User)
> Slattery_T@bls.gov
> 'Windows XP/Vista Odds and Ends' (http://members.cox.net/slatteryt)



Tim:

I understand what you are saying about web sites and how they are setup
on the server side, however I must be missing something as I do not see
how it applies to my situation.  I have no less than 20 website that I
can not access on Vista yet I can on my 3 XP boxes, so I am looking at
it as something Vista or my Vista machine that is making this happen.  
If the situation was entirely server side than many people would have
the same problem.  

Nav


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date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 22:14:18 +0530   author:   NavCopy

Re: Some Web Pages do not open if www included!   
NavCopy  wrote:


>> It depends on exactly what each web site has registered in the DNS
>> (Domain Name System, which translates names like 'Microsoft
>> Corporation' (http://www.microsoft.com) to
>> a numeric IP address). Some register only with the www prefix, some
>> both with and without it, some only without it. It doesn't mean that
>> anything on your machine is malfunctioning.

>I understand what you are saying about web sites and how they are setup
>on the server side, however I must be missing something as I do not see
>how it applies to my situation. I have no less than 20 website that I
>can not access on Vista yet I can on my 3 XP boxes, so I am looking at
>it as something Vista or my Vista machine that is making this happen.  

You're right, if you can see them from other machines then my
explanation is not right.

So something is blocking them on  your Vista machine. Check the hosts
file and the firewall. Maybe the internet security settings? 

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MS MVP(Shell/User)
Slattery_T@bls.gov
http://members.cox.net/slatteryt
date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 16:08:45 -0400   author:   Tim Slattery

Re: Some Web Pages do not open if www included!   
>>> It depends on exactly what each web site has registered in the DNS
>>> (Domain Name System, which translates names like 'Microsoft
>>> Corporation' ('Microsoft Corporation' (http://www.microsoft.com))
to
>>> a numeric IP address). Some register only with the www prefix,
some
>>> both with and without it, some only without it. It doesn't mean
that
>>> anything on your machine is malfunctioning.

>>I understand what you are saying about web sites and how they are
setup
>>on the server side, however I must be missing something as I do not
see
>>how it applies to my situation. I have no less than 20 website that
I
>>can not access on Vista yet I can on my 3 XP boxes, so I am looking
at
>>it as something Vista or my Vista machine that is making this
happen.

>You're right, if you can see them from other machines then my
>explanation is not right.

>So something is blocking them on your Vista machine. Check the hosts
>file and the firewall. Maybe the internet security settings?


Thanks Tim.  I'll keep trying proggy's on my system.

Nav


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date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:58:24 +0530   author:   NavCopy

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