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date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 20:49:28 +0100,    group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general        back       


Folder sharing   
Hi
 I have an external hard drive connected to my PC which I want to share on 
the home network, my problem is I want to share the whole drive with my wife 
(she has her laptop) but not all of it with the other PC's, I have been able 
to share the whole drive with everyone (3 other PC's) but I have stopped 
that as there are old documents, files etc which I feel only my wife and I 
to should have access to and not the kids.

In short I want to share the whole drive with my wife and the rest with all 
the network minus two folders, do I need some other software or is there a 
way in Vista ultimate?

Thanks

Gordon
date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 20:49:28 +0100   author:   Newsgroups

Re: Folder sharing   
"Sthief Ballmer"  wrote in message 
news:gcdrig$ob5$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> Em Segunda, 6 de Outubro de 2008 20:49, Newsgroups escreveu:
>
>> Hi
>>  I have an external hard drive connected to my PC which I want to share 
>> on
>> the home network, my problem is I want to share the whole drive with my
>> wife (she has her laptop) but not all of it with the other PC's, I have
>> been able to share the whole drive with everyone (3 other PC's) but I 
>> have
>> stopped that as there are old documents, files etc which I feel only my
>> wife and I to should have access to and not the kids.
>>
>> In short I want to share the whole drive with my wife and the rest with
>> all the network minus two folders, do I need some other software or is
>> there a way in Vista ultimate?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Gordon
>
> i can't expecify detailed information right now (don't have windows at
> home), but:
> go back to the shared folder preferences and look at the entire scene in
> there...
> you can set the share to just one user, or just one PC by the Pc name or
> it's IP on the network.
> if you set just to one PC, your share don't even show on the other Pcs.
> if you set to on user, the share will show on the other pcs but that they
> will get a "access denied" trying to open it.
>
> -- 
>
> Ballmer
>

Hi
 Thanks for the reply, I think I am being stupid or missing something, I can 
share a folder but I tried the IP address of my wife's pc and it said it 
cant find it, I have SHARE as an option or advanced options, Share lets me 
do the obvious with anyone, Advanced is weird, it gives me people to share 
with but they are Me, My wife on this PC and that's it, I tried adding her 
IP address and got no where, to be honest I am a little lost. I know I can 
share and the network is open because if I share the whole drive or a folder 
every PC in the house can use it, but to try and let just my wife's laptop 
see it is not beyond me just eluding me at the moment.

Any help or if you feel I missing something important that would be great.

Gordon
date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 21:39:49 +0100   author:   Newsgroups

Re: Folder sharing   
Newsgroups wrote:

> Hi
>  I have an external hard drive connected to my PC which I want to share on
> the home network, my problem is I want to share the whole drive with my
> wife (she has her laptop) but not all of it with the other PC's, I have
> been able to share the whole drive with everyone (3 other PC's) but I have
> stopped that as there are old documents, files etc which I feel only my
> wife and I to should have access to and not the kids.
> 
> In short I want to share the whole drive with my wife and the rest with
> all the network minus two folders, do I need some other software or is
> there a way in Vista ultimate?

Since you have Ultimate, you can create fine-grained permissions. Simply
make separate user accounts - with passwords - on your computer for your
wife, yourself, and your kids. Make the one for your wife match the one on
her laptop. If she isn't currently using a password, assign one. You can
always set her computer to log in automatically to her account.

The instructions at this link work for both XP and Vista:

Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) -
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm

Then create a folder on the external drive and put whatever you want to
share with her exclusively in it. IOW, don't just try and share the whole
drive. On that folder, assign permissions so that only your account and
your wife's account have read/write access. Make sure child objects
(whatever folders/files are in there) inherit permissions from the parent
(the "exclusive" folder you made). Then if your kids try to access that
folder, they will get "access denied".

Malke
-- 
MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:04:03 -0700   author:   Malke lid

Re: Folder sharing   
Malke wrote:
> Newsgroups wrote:
> 
>> Hi
>>  I have an external hard drive connected to my PC which I want to share on
>> the home network, my problem is I want to share the whole drive with my
>> wife (she has her laptop) but not all of it with the other PC's, I have
>> been able to share the whole drive with everyone (3 other PC's) but I have
>> stopped that as there are old documents, files etc which I feel only my
>> wife and I to should have access to and not the kids.
>>
>> In short I want to share the whole drive with my wife and the rest with
>> all the network minus two folders, do I need some other software or is
>> there a way in Vista ultimate?
> 
> Since you have Ultimate, you can create fine-grained permissions. Simply
> make separate user accounts - with passwords - on your computer for your
> wife, yourself, and your kids. Make the one for your wife match the one on
> her laptop. If she isn't currently using a password, assign one. You can
> always set her computer to log in automatically to her account.
> 
> The instructions at this link work for both XP and Vista:
> 
> Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) -
> http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm
> 
> Then create a folder on the external drive and put whatever you want to
> share with her exclusively in it. IOW, don't just try and share the whole
> drive. On that folder, assign permissions so that only your account and
> your wife's account have read/write access. Make sure child objects
> (whatever folders/files are in there) inherit permissions from the parent
> (the "exclusive" folder you made). Then if your kids try to access that
> folder, they will get "access denied".
> 
> Malke

I agree with you but it might be easier to share the whole drive then go 
in and REMOVE the everyone setting on the two he doesn't want to share. 
Then add he and his wife with full access. He only wants to restrict the 
children from two folders.

gls858
date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:30:54 -0500   author:   gls858

Re: Folder sharing   
"Newsgroups"  wrote in message 
news:hZtGk.35383$qg2.430@newsfe30.ams2...
> Hi
> I have an external hard drive connected to my PC which I want to share on 
> the home network, my problem is I want to share the whole drive with my 
> wife (she has her laptop) but not all of it with the other PC's, I have 
> been able to share the whole drive with everyone (3 other PC's) but I have 
> stopped that as there are old documents, files etc which I feel only my 
> wife and I to should have access to and not the kids.
>
> In short I want to share the whole drive with my wife and the rest with 
> all the network minus two folders, do I need some other software or is 
> there a way in Vista ultimate?
>

The software is already there on the computer. It's called NTFS.

Yes, you use it by simply going to the folders and to the Security tab on 
the folders and adding or removing what user accounts can access the folders 
and the permissions or no permissions the user will have on the folders. If 
a user account is not on the folder, then the user has no rights on the 
folder period.

You'll have to use Control/Panel/Folder Options to go to the View tab and 
uncheck Simple File Sharing, which will expose the Security  tab when you 
use Explore to right-click the folder and use Properties..

http://www.windowsitlibrary.com/Content/592/1.html#1

You should delete the Users(machine-name\users) off of the folder,  because 
all users of the computer will have the permissions for what ever Users is 
set to, or uncheck everything for Users and leave it.
date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 18:36:53 -0400   author:   Mr. Arnold MR.

Re: Folder sharing   
gls858 wrote:

> I agree with you but it might be easier to share the whole drive then go
> in and REMOVE the everyone setting on the two he doesn't want to share.
> Then add he and his wife with full access. He only wants to restrict the
> children from two folders.

With respect, Vista treats sharing the root of drives differently than XP.
In order to share an entire drive, which is not recommended, you have to
allow Everyone. That was the reason behind my suggestion. I got the
information about difficulties sharing the root of a drive from Michael
Bell (MS).

Malke
-- 
MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 19:01:30 -0700   author:   Malke lid

Re: Folder sharing   
Malke wrote:
> gls858 wrote:
> 
>> I agree with you but it might be easier to share the whole drive then go
>> in and REMOVE the everyone setting on the two he doesn't want to share.
>> Then add he and his wife with full access. He only wants to restrict the
>> children from two folders.
> 
> With respect, Vista treats sharing the root of drives differently than XP.
> In order to share an entire drive, which is not recommended, you have to
> allow Everyone. That was the reason behind my suggestion. I got the
> information about difficulties sharing the root of a drive from Michael
> Bell (MS).
> 
> Malke
Thanks for the info Malke. I was not aware of that restriction.

gls858
date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 09:10:02 -0500   author:   gls858

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