Hi all.

As per my subject line, other than Acronis Backup what would you choose?. 
The only fault I have is the incremental backups being to large and all to 
often I have to delete some of these to make room on the backup drive. 
Backing up to a 120 GB drive same size as the user drive.


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http://www.runtime.org/driveimage-xml.htm

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"SG"  wrote in message 
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> Hi all.
>
> As per my subject line, other than Acronis Backup what would you choose?. 
> The only fault I have is the incremental backups being to large and all to 
> often I have to delete some of these to make room on the backup drive. 
> Backing up to a 120 GB drive same size as the user drive.
>
>
> -- 
> All the best,
> SG
>
> Is your computer system ready for Vista?
> https://winqual.microsoft.com/hcl/
> Want to keep up with the latest news from MS?
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> Just type in Microsoft
>

"SG"  wrote in message 
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> Hi all.
>
> As per my subject line, other than Acronis Backup what would you choose?. 
> The only fault I have is the incremental backups being to large and all to 
> often I have to delete some of these to make room on the backup drive. 
> Backing up to a 120 GB drive same size as the user drive.
>
>
> -- 
> All the best,
> SG
>
> Is your computer system ready for Vista?
> https://winqual.microsoft.com/hcl/
> Want to keep up with the latest news from MS?
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> Just type in Microsoft
>

You may have a lot of compressed files on the drive which is why this is 
happening.  My incremental backups on a weekly basis for 100 gb are about 10 
gb additional data...of course if you change a bunch of huge files, they are 
going to get backed up and will take space!  However, this is not a problem 
specific to Acronis.

On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 00:36:22 -0400, "SG"  wrote:

>Hi all.
>
>As per my subject line, other than Acronis Backup what would you choose?. 
>The only fault I have is the incremental backups being to large and all to 
>often I have to delete some of these to make room on the backup drive. 
>Backing up to a 120 GB drive same size as the user drive.

I doubt that you'll find a better one.  Solution is to get a larger
drive to backup to.

"Mingus" <7n0@nospam.invalid> wrote in message 
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> http://www.runtime.org/driveimage-xml.htm
>
> /M
>
> "SG"  wrote in message 
> news:uNssMGRJJHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Hi all.
>>
>> As per my subject line, other than Acronis Backup what would you choose?. 
>> The only fault I have is the incremental backups being to large and all 
>> to often I have to delete some of these to make room on the backup drive. 
>> Backing up to a 120 GB drive same size as the user drive.
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> All the best,
>> SG
>>
>> Is your computer system ready for Vista?
>> https://winqual.microsoft.com/hcl/
>> Want to keep up with the latest news from MS?
>> http://news.google.com/nwshp?tab=wn&ned=us&topic=t
>> Just type in Microsoft
>>
>


Mingus,

Thanks for the reply, however driveimage-xml doesn't do incremental backups 
which is a must in my case.

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"Paul Montgomery"  wrote in message 
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> On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 00:36:22 -0400, "SG"  wrote:
>
>>Hi all.
>>
>>As per my subject line, other than Acronis Backup what would you choose?.
>>The only fault I have is the incremental backups being to large and all to
>>often I have to delete some of these to make room on the backup drive.
>>Backing up to a 120 GB drive same size as the user drive.
>
> I doubt that you'll find a better one.  Solution is to get a larger
> drive to backup to.


Hi Paul,

A bigger drive is a solution, not the one I'm looking for, but thanks for 
the reply.

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SG

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Nothing.

In my case it does everything I need it to do. All I do is manual "full" 
backups, overwriting an older one if necessary. I always have 3-5 full 
backups in various stages of system development. With good notes as to what 
is in each backup I have options as to where my system will be when I do a 
recovery.

-- 

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience


"SG"  wrote in message 
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> Hi all.
>
> As per my subject line, other than Acronis Backup what would you choose?. 
> The only fault I have is the incremental backups being to large and all to 
> often I have to delete some of these to make room on the backup drive. 
> Backing up to a 120 GB drive same size as the user drive.
>
>
> -- 
> All the best,
> SG
>
> Is your computer system ready for Vista?
> https://winqual.microsoft.com/hcl/
> Want to keep up with the latest news from MS?
> http://news.google.com/nwshp?tab=wn&ned=us&topic=t
> Just type in Microsoft
>

On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 02:36:18 -0400, "SG"  wrote:

>"Paul Montgomery"  wrote in message 
>news:rddbe4dv7dh1vt0i2q74jkrhd0nisfg8ep@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 00:36:22 -0400, "SG"  wrote:
>>
>>>Hi all.
>>>
>>>As per my subject line, other than Acronis Backup what would you choose?.
>>>The only fault I have is the incremental backups being to large and all to
>>>often I have to delete some of these to make room on the backup drive.
>>>Backing up to a 120 GB drive same size as the user drive.
>>
>> I doubt that you'll find a better one.  Solution is to get a larger
>> drive to backup to.
>
>
>Hi Paul,
>
>A bigger drive is a solution, not the one I'm looking for, but thanks for 
>the reply.

Then just do full backups.  If you only have room for one, then
overwrite it with the new one.

Image for Windows, from the makers of BootIT NG. V2 now offers incremental 
backups
http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/image-for-windows.htm

-- 
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Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"SG"  wrote in message 
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> Hi all.
>
> As per my subject line, other than Acronis Backup what would you choose?. 
> The only fault I have is the incremental backups being to large and all to 
> often I have to delete some of these to make room on the backup drive. 
> Backing up to a 120 GB drive same size as the user drive.
>
>
> -- 
> All the best,
> SG
>
> Is your computer system ready for Vista?
> https://winqual.microsoft.com/hcl/
> Want to keep up with the latest news from MS?
> http://news.google.com/nwshp?tab=wn&ned=us&topic=t
> Just type in Microsoft
>

http://www.storagecraft.com/products/ShadowProtectDesktop/

I prefer this to True Image.

"SG"  wrote in message 
news:uNssMGRJJHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Hi all.
>
> As per my subject line, other than Acronis Backup what would you choose?. 
> The only fault I have is the incremental backups being to large and all to 
> often I have to delete some of these to make room on the backup drive. 
> Backing up to a 120 GB drive same size as the user drive.
>
>
> -- 
> All the best,
> SG
>
> Is your computer system ready for Vista?
> https://winqual.microsoft.com/hcl/
> Want to keep up with the latest news from MS?
> http://news.google.com/nwshp?tab=wn&ned=us&topic=t
> Just type in Microsoft
>

On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 07:30:26 -0500, "Ed Y" 
wrote:

>http://www.storagecraft.com/products/ShadowProtectDesktop/
>
>I prefer this to True Image.

Why?


>"SG"  wrote in message 
>news:uNssMGRJJHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Hi all.
>>
>> As per my subject line, other than Acronis Backup what would you choose?. 
>> The only fault I have is the incremental backups being to large and all to 
>> often I have to delete some of these to make room on the backup drive. 
>> Backing up to a 120 GB drive same size as the user drive.
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> All the best,
>> SG
>>
>> Is your computer system ready for Vista?
>> https://winqual.microsoft.com/hcl/
>> Want to keep up with the latest news from MS?
>> http://news.google.com/nwshp?tab=wn&ned=us&topic=t
>> Just type in Microsoft
>> 
>

On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 02:46:13 -0500, Paul Montgomery
 wrote:

> On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 02:36:18 -0400, "SG"  wrote:
> 
> >"Paul Montgomery"  wrote in message 
> >news:rddbe4dv7dh1vt0i2q74jkrhd0nisfg8ep@4ax.com...
> >> On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 00:36:22 -0400, "SG"  wrote:
> >>
> >>>Hi all.
> >>>
> >>>As per my subject line, other than Acronis Backup what would you choose?.
> >>>The only fault I have is the incremental backups being to large and all to
> >>>often I have to delete some of these to make room on the backup drive.
> >>>Backing up to a 120 GB drive same size as the user drive.
> >>
> >> I doubt that you'll find a better one.  Solution is to get a larger
> >> drive to backup to.
> >
> >
> >Hi Paul,
> >
> >A bigger drive is a solution, not the one I'm looking for, but thanks for 
> >the reply.
> 
> Then just do full backups.  If you only have room for one, then
> overwrite it with the new one.


I'm a very conservative person, so I think overwriting one backup with
the next one is a dangerous, and therefore poor, thing to do. My
concern is that a hardware failure can wipe out both the previous
backup and the current one simultaneously. Yes, there's an extra cost
to having two backup drives, but I think it's worth the extra cost and
that's my preference. It permits alternation of the drives, so
creating a backup doesn't also wipe out the previous one, but the one
before that.

-- 
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
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SG;851420 Wrote: 
> Hi all.
> 
> As per my subject line, other than Acronis Backup what would you
> choose?.
> The only fault I have is the incremental backups being to large and all
> to
> often I have to delete some of these to make room on the backup drive.
> Backing up to a 120 GB drive same size as the user drive.
> 
> 
> --
> All the best,
> SG
> 
> Is your computer system ready for Vista?
> https://winqual.microsoft.com/hcl/
> Want to keep up with the latest news from MS?
> 'Google News - Sci/Tech'
> (http://news.google.com/nwshp?tab=wn&ned=us&topic=t)
> Just type in Microsoft

I have 4 systems at home I back up to a HP Media server 'HP® Official
Store — Buy Home servers from HP'
(http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/can.do?landing=notebook&storeName=accessories&category=notebook_hp&subcat1=home_servers&catLevel=1)

Works great. Fulls once a week then diffs....lets you decide how long
to keep fulls/diffs/dailys/weeklys/monthlys and is expandable


-- 
wwoods

I use Norton Ghost. You can make incremental backups, or full backups.
You can tell it what files to back up or it will back only the files
that have changed. And I do a full back up once a month to my external
HD which is a Western Digital 1TB drive and I do weekly updates and
daily updates that I setup to certain standards for my machines. I also
I ahve another external HD that I use for all my file sharing in my
house such a music, movies and documents that way my back up drive can
not get corrupted, well at least not yet... :)


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SG wrote:
> Hi all.
> 
> As per my subject line, other than Acronis Backup what would you 
> choose?. The only fault I have is the incremental backups being to large 
> and all to often I have to delete some of these to make room on the 
> backup drive. Backing up to a 120 GB drive same size as the user drive.
> 
> 
Take a look at this Backup for Workgroups by Lockstep.

http://www.backup-for-workgroups.com/index.html

It's a little pricey at $99 for a single PC but I know for a fact that 
it works well. We use it here at our company to backup four servers.
Of course with licenses to backup SQL and multiple servers, external 
drives and such we spent quite a bit more than $99. But it beats the 
hell out of the old tape backup system that we had.
It's quick, compresses the backup and has multiple storage options, as 
well as, drive spanning capabilities. It can also backup open files. It 
  keeps a new versions (we have ours set for 10) of the file each time 
it changes. So if a file never changes it get backed up once. if it 
changes  everyday then it gets backup everyday. So at the very least I 
have 10 copies of a file that changes everyday. All of this data can 
then be mirrored automatically to another drive that can be taken off site.
We use 3 external usb drives and rotate the second. One is always off site.

Standard disclaimer:
No association or renumeration from yada yada. Just a satisfied user.

gls858

On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 10:22:04 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
<kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote:

>> Then just do full backups.  If you only have room for one, then
>> overwrite it with the new one.
>
>
>I'm a very conservative person, so I think overwriting one backup with
>the next one is a dangerous, and therefore poor, thing to do. My
>concern is that a hardware failure can wipe out both the previous
>backup and the current one simultaneously.

I share your conservatism AND your concerns.  I have plenty of drive
space to create backups on, and I never overwrite one when creating a
new backup.

When creating new full backups (usually weekly), I keep the previous
one and all of its incrementals... when it's finished, I only delete
the incrementals.  I currently have 4 full backups on one of three
extra internal drives, with the most recent one duplicated on an
external drive.

The OP appears to not want to spend the relatively small amount  of
money neede to get a larger drive, so the only options open are to
either keep deleting incrementals and creating new ones, or to
overwrite the backup and start a new string.

> Yes, there's an extra cost
>to having two backup drives, but I think it's worth the extra cost and
>that's my preference. It permits alternation of the drives, so
>creating a backup doesn't also wipe out the previous one, but the one
>before that.