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date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:13:06 -0500,    group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general        back       


Access to User Accounts   
I'm trying to help a friend with a problem on her computer.  To help
her I need access to the user accounts.  On my machine (Home Premium)
I can go to Administrative Tools > Computer Management > Local Users
and Groups > Users and reach the list of user accounts.  When she goes
to Administrative Tools > Computer Management on her machine (Home
Basic) there is no "Local Users and Groups" -- strike #1

On my machine I can go to Control Panel > User Accounts and find the
list of some (not all) user accounts.  When she goes to Control Panel
there is no "User Accounts".  There's a folder with a similar name but
it doesn't have a list of user accounts in it --  -- strike #2

On my machine I can Run "control userpasswords2" and get a Window
named "User Accounts" with a list of the accounts.  When she does
this, something odd happens that ends her up at the command line, but
it does not display the "User Accounts"  window that I get -- strike
#3, I'm out.  That's all I know to do.

Why can't she get a list of users?  Does it have something to do with
a difference between Home Basic and Home Premium?  Whatever it is, how
do I overcome this?

jim
date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:13:06 -0500   author:   jim evans

Re: Access to User Accounts   
jim evans wrote:
> I'm trying to help a friend with a problem on her computer.  To help
> her I need access to the user accounts.  On my machine (Home Premium)
> I can go to Administrative Tools > Computer Management > Local Users
> and Groups > Users and reach the list of user accounts.  When she goes
> to Administrative Tools > Computer Management on her machine (Home
> Basic) there is no "Local Users and Groups" -- strike #1
> 
> On my machine I can go to Control Panel > User Accounts and find the
> list of some (not all) user accounts.  When she goes to Control Panel
> there is no "User Accounts".  There's a folder with a similar name but
> it doesn't have a list of user accounts in it --  -- strike #2
> 
> On my machine I can Run "control userpasswords2" and get a Window
> named "User Accounts" with a list of the accounts.  When she does
> this, something odd happens that ends her up at the command line, but
> it does not display the "User Accounts"  window that I get -- strike
> #3, I'm out.  That's all I know to do.
> 
> Why can't she get a list of users?  Does it have something to do with
> a difference between Home Basic and Home Premium?  Whatever it is, how
> do I overcome this?
> 
> jim

Dunno, exactly, but you might Google "Enable Administrator Account". 
This will show you how to enable the real admin account, plus other 
things related to user account management.

Q
date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 17:50:43 -0600   author:   Quaoar

Re: Access to User Accounts   
Hi Jim,

#1 is because you have a version that has the local user snap-in 
(lusrmgr.msc) and she does not. Home versions do not offer that tool, only 
business, enterprise, and ultimate do. The other 2 are because there is some 
malware on her system interfering with this control.

-- 
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"jim evans"  wrote in message 
news:agsob4p1sactsedhe4lj6n4p1uftqnsjil@4ax.com...
> I'm trying to help a friend with a problem on her computer.  To help
> her I need access to the user accounts.  On my machine (Home Premium)
> I can go to Administrative Tools > Computer Management > Local Users
> and Groups > Users and reach the list of user accounts.  When she goes
> to Administrative Tools > Computer Management on her machine (Home
> Basic) there is no "Local Users and Groups" -- strike #1
>
> On my machine I can go to Control Panel > User Accounts and find the
> list of some (not all) user accounts.  When she goes to Control Panel
> there is no "User Accounts".  There's a folder with a similar name but
> it doesn't have a list of user accounts in it --  -- strike #2
>
> On my machine I can Run "control userpasswords2" and get a Window
> named "User Accounts" with a list of the accounts.  When she does
> this, something odd happens that ends her up at the command line, but
> it does not display the "User Accounts"  window that I get -- strike
> #3, I'm out.  That's all I know to do.
>
> Why can't she get a list of users?  Does it have something to do with
> a difference between Home Basic and Home Premium?  Whatever it is, how
> do I overcome this?
>
> jim
date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 21:39:46 -0400   author:   Rick Rogers

Re: Access to User Accounts   
On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 21:39:46 -0400, "Rick Rogers" 
wrote:

>Hi Jim,
>
>#1 is because you have a version that has the local user snap-in 
>(lusrmgr.msc) and she does not. Home versions do not offer that tool, only 
>business, enterprise, and ultimate do. 

That may be partially correct, but it can't be entirely correct.  I
have Home Premium and it has the all of the features I mentioned in my
OP.

jim
date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 12:18:00 -0500   author:   jim evans

Re: Access to User Accounts   
"jim evans"  wrote in message 
news:u2tqb41ebpg43o0b4e9l7mmqr8tl56kk1d@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 21:39:46 -0400, "Rick Rogers" 
> wrote:
>
>>Hi Jim,
>>
>>#1 is because you have a version that has the local user snap-in
>>(lusrmgr.msc) and she does not. Home versions do not offer that tool, only
>>business, enterprise, and ultimate do.
>
> That may be partially correct, but it can't be entirely correct.  I
> have Home Premium and it has the all of the features I mentioned in my
> OP.
>
> jim


Interesting. I also have Home Premium and I do NOT have Administrative Tools 
 > Computer Management > Local Users
and Groups > Users. You either do NOT have Home Premium, or, if you did an 
upgrade from some version of XP that HAS that snap-in, it has hung over.
date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 18:49:10 +0100   author:   Gordon lid

Re: Access to User Accounts   
On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 18:49:10 +0100, "Gordon"
<gordonbparker@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:

>"jim evans"  wrote in message 
>news:u2tqb41ebpg43o0b4e9l7mmqr8tl56kk1d@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 21:39:46 -0400, "Rick Rogers" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Hi Jim,
>>>
>>>#1 is because you have a version that has the local user snap-in
>>>(lusrmgr.msc) and she does not. Home versions do not offer that tool, only
>>>business, enterprise, and ultimate do.
>>
>> That may be partially correct, but it can't be entirely correct.  I
>> have Home Premium and it has the all of the features I mentioned in my
>> OP.
>>
>> jim
>
>
>Interesting. I also have Home Premium and I do NOT have Administrative Tools 
> > Computer Management > Local Users
>and Groups > Users. You either do NOT have Home Premium, or, if you did an 
>upgrade from some version of XP that HAS that snap-in, it has hung over. 

Well, I paid for Home Premium, it says in properties it's Home Premium
and it came on the computer -- it is not an upgrade.

jim
date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:41:55 -0500   author:   jim evans

Re: Access to User Accounts   
"jim evans"  wrote in message 
news:159rb41rljjle3p8a73sl05287ev8fuse8@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 18:49:10 +0100, "Gordon"
> <gordonbparker@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>>"jim evans"  wrote in message
>>news:u2tqb41ebpg43o0b4e9l7mmqr8tl56kk1d@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 21:39:46 -0400, "Rick Rogers" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi Jim,
>>>>
>>>>#1 is because you have a version that has the local user snap-in
>>>>(lusrmgr.msc) and she does not. Home versions do not offer that tool, 
>>>>only
>>>>business, enterprise, and ultimate do.
>>>
>>> That may be partially correct, but it can't be entirely correct.  I
>>> have Home Premium and it has the all of the features I mentioned in my
>>> OP.
>>>
>>> jim
>>
>>
>>Interesting. I also have Home Premium and I do NOT have Administrative 
>>Tools
>> > Computer Management > Local Users
>>and Groups > Users. You either do NOT have Home Premium, or, if you did an
>>upgrade from some version of XP that HAS that snap-in, it has hung over.
>
> Well, I paid for Home Premium, it says in properties it's Home Premium
> and it came on the computer -- it is not an upgrade.
>
> jim


Well then I do not know why you have that snap-in. It is very definitely NOT 
included in Home Premium.
date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 22:21:21 +0100   author:   Gordon lid

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