I recently uninstalled AVG-AV 7.5 and AVG-AS 7.5. I then installed AVG8.

Now when I open the Vista Security Centter and click on Malware and then 
click on the Show me the anit-spyware programs on this computer.
What I see is:
AVG - Anti Spyware - Out of date
AVG Anti-Virus Free - ON
Windows Defender - ON

I was told by AVG forum that AVG Anti Spyware should be removed. Howeveer, I 
already removed it. The only program is AVG8 Free.

Can anyone help? I checked Add/Remove and only AVG8 Free is there!

I had this same problem with Vista's Security Center after uninstalling 
Avira Antivir and installing AVG 8. Vista's Security Center continued to 
insist that the Antivir was installed and running (and even up-to-date), 
despite the fact that I had thoroughly uninstalled it (to the point of 
cleaning out everything I could find in the registry using the search 
terms "Avira," and "Antivir." Vista's Security Center, IIRC, even warned 
me that I had two anti-virus programs running, which could conflict with 
one another. Obviously, though, I had no real problems at all beyond 
some kind of confusion in my Security Center.

Finally, someone pointed me to instructions for eliminating my Security 
Center's confusion, and hopefully they will do the same for you. See:

http://www.pchell.com/support/multiple_antivirus_in_security_center.shtml

Daze

-------------------------------


AliceZ wrote:
> I recently uninstalled AVG-AV 7.5 and AVG-AS 7.5. I then installed AVG8.
> 
> Now when I open the Vista Security Centter and click on Malware and then 
> click on the Show me the anit-spyware programs on this computer.
> What I see is:
> AVG - Anti Spyware - Out of date
> AVG Anti-Virus Free - ON
> Windows Defender - ON
> 
> I was told by AVG forum that AVG Anti Spyware should be removed. Howeveer, I 
> already removed it. The only program is AVG8 Free.
> 
> Can anyone help? I checked Add/Remove and only AVG8 Free is there!

#1- Was this done on your Vista system and did it clear-up the problem?
#2- If you hadn't done anything, there would really be nothing wrong with 
your mn ,Vista computer, it would just be that Security Center was at fault. 
And you could have just let ev*0erything remain "as is."
#3- What is the Security Center IIRC warning you received and what did you 
do about that?+-*

Daze N. Knights" wrote:

> I had this same problem with Vista's Security Center after uninstalling 
> Avira Antivir and installing AVG 8. Vista's Security Center continued to 
> insist that the Antivir was installed and running (and even up-to-date), 
> despite the fact that I had thoroughly uninstalled it (to the point of 
> cleaning out everything I could find in the registry using the search 
> terms "Avira," and "Antivir." Vista's Security Center, IIRC, even warned 
> me that I had two anti-virus programs running, which could conflict with 
> one another. Obviously, though, I had no real problems at all beyond 
> some kind of confusion in my Security Center.
> 
> Finally, someone pointed me to instructions for eliminating my Security 
> Center's confusion, and hopefully they will do the same for you. See:
> 
> http://www.pchell.com/support/multiple_antivirus_in_security_center.shtml
> 
> Daze
> 
> -------------------------------
> 
> 
> AliceZ wrote:
> > I recently uninstalled AVG-AV 7.5 and AVG-AS 7.5. I then installed AVG8.
> > 
> > Now when I open the Vista Security Centter and click on Malware and then 
> > click on the Show me the anit-spyware programs on this computer.
> > What I see is:
> > AVG - Anti Spyware - Out of date
> > AVG Anti-Virus Free - ON
> > Windows Defender - ON
> > 
> > I was told by AVG forum that AVG Anti Spyware should be removed. Howeveer, I 
> > already removed it. The only program is AVG8 Free.
> > 
> > Can anyone help? I checked Add/Remove and only AVG8 Free is there!
>

In Step 5, did it have a pop-up box after you clicked STOP, and did that box 
state:
"When Windows Management Instrumentation stop, these other services will 
also stop: SECURITY CENTER and IP HELPER?"
And did you just click OKAY?

"Daze N. Knights" wrote:

> I had this same problem with Vista's Security Center after uninstalling 
> Avira Antivir and installing AVG 8. Vista's Security Center continued to 
> insist that the Antivir was installed and running (and even up-to-date), 
> despite the fact that I had thoroughly uninstalled it (to the point of 
> cleaning out everything I could find in the registry using the search 
> terms "Avira," and "Antivir." Vista's Security Center, IIRC, even warned 
> me that I had two anti-virus programs running, which could conflict with 
> one another. Obviously, though, I had no real problems at all beyond 
> some kind of confusion in my Security Center.
> 
> Finally, someone pointed me to instructions for eliminating my Security 
> Center's confusion, and hopefully they will do the same for you. See:
> 
> http://www.pchell.com/support/multiple_antivirus_in_security_center.shtml
> 
> Daze
> 
> -------------------------------
> 
> 
> AliceZ wrote:
> > I recently uninstalled AVG-AV 7.5 and AVG-AS 7.5. I then installed AVG8.
> > 
> > Now when I open the Vista Security Centter and click on Malware and then 
> > click on the Show me the anit-spyware programs on this computer.
> > What I see is:
> > AVG - Anti Spyware - Out of date
> > AVG Anti-Virus Free - ON
> > Windows Defender - ON
> > 
> > I was told by AVG forum that AVG Anti Spyware should be removed. Howeveer, I 
> > already removed it. The only program is AVG8 Free.
> > 
> > Can anyone help? I checked Add/Remove and only AVG8 Free is there!
>

"AliceZ"  wrote in message 
news:E2F28EB8-D467-4D24-9E0C-C7D04FF350D0@microsoft.com...
>I recently uninstalled AVG-AV 7.5 and AVG-AS 7.5. I then installed AVG8.
>
> Now when I open the Vista Security Centter and click on Malware and then
> click on the Show me the anit-spyware programs on this computer.
> What I see is:
> AVG - Anti Spyware - Out of date
> AVG Anti-Virus Free - ON
> Windows Defender - ON
>
> I was told by AVG forum that AVG Anti Spyware should be removed. Howeveer, 
> I
> already removed it. The only program is AVG8 Free.
>
> Can anyone help? I checked Add/Remove and only AVG8 Free is there!

You must update the definitions. Then the Security Center is satisfied.

Answered inline:

AliceZ wrote:
> #1- Was this done on your Vista system and did it clear-up the problem?

Yes.

> #2- If you hadn't done anything, there would really be nothing wrong with 
> your mn ,Vista computer, it would just be that Security Center was at fault. 
> And you could have just let ev*0erything remain "as is."

My best understanding is that the problem actually involved only the 
Security Center (which I would describe as "confused"), not any of my 
security programs or anything else.

> #3- What is the Security Center IIRC warning you received and what did you 
> do about that?+-*

It's been a while and I don't recall exactly. First, I believe it gave 
me some kind of warning about having two antivirus programs running. 
Then, when I opened the Security Center, sure enough, it listed both my 
current program (AVG) and the one that I had uninstalled (Antivir).

> 
> Daze N. Knights" wrote:
> 
>> I had this same problem with Vista's Security Center after uninstalling 
>> Avira Antivir and installing AVG 8. Vista's Security Center continued to 
>> insist that the Antivir was installed and running (and even up-to-date), 
>> despite the fact that I had thoroughly uninstalled it (to the point of 
>> cleaning out everything I could find in the registry using the search 
>> terms "Avira," and "Antivir." Vista's Security Center, IIRC, even warned 
>> me that I had two anti-virus programs running, which could conflict with 
>> one another. Obviously, though, I had no real problems at all beyond 
>> some kind of confusion in my Security Center.
>>
>> Finally, someone pointed me to instructions for eliminating my Security 
>> Center's confusion, and hopefully they will do the same for you. See:
>>
>> http://www.pchell.com/support/multiple_antivirus_in_security_center.shtml
>>
>> Daze
>>
>> -------------------------------
>>
>>
>> AliceZ wrote:
>>> I recently uninstalled AVG-AV 7.5 and AVG-AS 7.5. I then installed AVG8.
>>>
>>> Now when I open the Vista Security Centter and click on Malware and then 
>>> click on the Show me the anit-spyware programs on this computer.
>>> What I see is:
>>> AVG - Anti Spyware - Out of date
>>> AVG Anti-Virus Free - ON
>>> Windows Defender - ON
>>>
>>> I was told by AVG forum that AVG Anti Spyware should be removed. Howeveer, I 
>>> already removed it. The only program is AVG8 Free.
>>>
>>> Can anyone help? I checked Add/Remove and only AVG8 Free is there!

Following those instructions is a bit scary, isn't it? I wasn't sure if 
it was worth it, since the actual problem seemed to be nothing more than 
a "confused" Security Center, either. I make regular full-system 
backups, though, so I also knew that, should something go wrong, I 
should be able to completely restore my system in a short period of 
time. Consequently, I risked going a bit into the unknown, and I'm glad 
that I did, because, whether it really matters much or not, I now have a 
healthily "non-confused" Security Center again.

AliceZ wrote:
> In Step 5, did it have a pop-up box after you clicked STOP, and did that box 
> state:
> "When Windows Management Instrumentation stop, these other services will 
> also stop: SECURITY CENTER and IP HELPER?"

I just can't remember if I got that message at the time or not, although 
I can definitely say that I *do*, indeed, get exactly that message when 
I try clicking on Stop now. So, chances are that I got that same message 
before, as well.

> And did you just click OKAY?

If I got the message, as I guess I probably did, then yes, that's what I 
did. (I don't know about the "IP Helper," but it makes perfect sense to 
me that it would be necessary to stop the Security Center, at least, in 
order for the necessary changes to take place.)


> 
> "Daze N. Knights" wrote:
> 
>> I had this same problem with Vista's Security Center after uninstalling 
>> Avira Antivir and installing AVG 8. Vista's Security Center continued to 
>> insist that the Antivir was installed and running (and even up-to-date), 
>> despite the fact that I had thoroughly uninstalled it (to the point of 
>> cleaning out everything I could find in the registry using the search 
>> terms "Avira," and "Antivir." Vista's Security Center, IIRC, even warned 
>> me that I had two anti-virus programs running, which could conflict with 
>> one another. Obviously, though, I had no real problems at all beyond 
>> some kind of confusion in my Security Center.
>>
>> Finally, someone pointed me to instructions for eliminating my Security 
>> Center's confusion, and hopefully they will do the same for you. See:
>>
>> http://www.pchell.com/support/multiple_antivirus_in_security_center.shtml
>>
>> Daze
>>
>> -------------------------------
>>
>>
>> AliceZ wrote:
>>> I recently uninstalled AVG-AV 7.5 and AVG-AS 7.5. I then installed AVG8.
>>>
>>> Now when I open the Vista Security Centter and click on Malware and then 
>>> click on the Show me the anit-spyware programs on this computer.
>>> What I see is:
>>> AVG - Anti Spyware - Out of date
>>> AVG Anti-Virus Free - ON
>>> Windows Defender - ON
>>>
>>> I was told by AVG forum that AVG Anti Spyware should be removed. Howeveer, I 
>>> already removed it. The only program is AVG8 Free.
>>>
>>> Can anyone help? I checked Add/Remove and only AVG8 Free is there!

Oh, and BTW: Instead of deleting the Repository folder, you could 
instead, of course, more cautiously try renaming it (just add, for 
instance, an XXX to its name), which would allow you to recover it if a 
new one wasn't automatically recreated in the course of your finishing 
the list of instructions. Once everything was seen it be A-OK in the 
end, then you could finally go back and delete it.



Daze N. Knights wrote:
> Following those instructions is a bit scary, isn't it? I wasn't sure if 
> it was worth it, since the actual problem seemed to be nothing more than 
> a "confused" Security Center, either. I make regular full-system 
> backups, though, so I also knew that, should something go wrong, I 
> should be able to completely restore my system in a short period of 
> time. Consequently, I risked going a bit into the unknown, and I'm glad 
> that I did, because, whether it really matters much or not, I now have a 
> healthily "non-confused" Security Center again.
> 
> AliceZ wrote:
>> In Step 5, did it have a pop-up box after you clicked STOP, and did 
>> that box state:
>> "When Windows Management Instrumentation stop, these other services 
>> will also stop: SECURITY CENTER and IP HELPER?"
> 
> I just can't remember if I got that message at the time or not, although 
> I can definitely say that I *do*, indeed, get exactly that message when 
> I try clicking on Stop now. So, chances are that I got that same message 
> before, as well.
> 
>> And did you just click OKAY?
> 
> If I got the message, as I guess I probably did, then yes, that's what I 
> did. (I don't know about the "IP Helper," but it makes perfect sense to 
> me that it would be necessary to stop the Security Center, at least, in 
> order for the necessary changes to take place.)
> 
> 
>>
>> "Daze N. Knights" wrote:
>>
>>> I had this same problem with Vista's Security Center after 
>>> uninstalling Avira Antivir and installing AVG 8. Vista's Security 
>>> Center continued to insist that the Antivir was installed and running 
>>> (and even up-to-date), despite the fact that I had thoroughly 
>>> uninstalled it (to the point of cleaning out everything I could find 
>>> in the registry using the search terms "Avira," and "Antivir." 
>>> Vista's Security Center, IIRC, even warned me that I had two 
>>> anti-virus programs running, which could conflict with one another. 
>>> Obviously, though, I had no real problems at all beyond some kind of 
>>> confusion in my Security Center.
>>>
>>> Finally, someone pointed me to instructions for eliminating my 
>>> Security Center's confusion, and hopefully they will do the same for 
>>> you. See:
>>>
>>> http://www.pchell.com/support/multiple_antivirus_in_security_center.shtml 
>>>
>>>
>>> Daze
>>>
>>> -------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>> AliceZ wrote:
>>>> I recently uninstalled AVG-AV 7.5 and AVG-AS 7.5. I then installed 
>>>> AVG8.
>>>>
>>>> Now when I open the Vista Security Centter and click on Malware and 
>>>> then click on the Show me the anit-spyware programs on this computer.
>>>> What I see is:
>>>> AVG - Anti Spyware - Out of date
>>>> AVG Anti-Virus Free - ON
>>>> Windows Defender - ON
>>>>
>>>> I was told by AVG forum that AVG Anti Spyware should be removed. 
>>>> Howeveer, I already removed it. The only program is AVG8 Free.
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone help? I checked Add/Remove and only AVG8 Free is there!

Many, many thanks.
Would you be able to answer the following please:
#1- Re: your: " I make regular full-system backups." How do you do this?

#2- Re: your:  " Instead of deleting the Repository folder, you could 
instead, of course, more cautiously try renaming it (just add, for instance, 
an XXX to its name" 
How would this be done (for future reference, hope I don't have to do again)?

#3- I can gain access to these MS Community Boards when I sign in, on my 
WinXP desktop. But, when I try to sign in on my Vista, I keep getting 
returned to the original community page I was viewing. Would you know why I 
can't sign in on the Vista?

Once again, thanks for all your kind help.
Alice


"Daze N. Knights" wrote:

> Oh, and BTW: Instead of deleting the Repository folder, you could 
> instead, of course, more cautiously try renaming it (just add, for 
> instance, an XXX to its name), which would allow you to recover it if a 
> new one wasn't automatically recreated in the course of your finishing 
> the list of instructions. Once everything was seen it be A-OK in the 
> end, then you could finally go back and delete it.
> 
> 
> 
> Daze N. Knights wrote:
> > Following those instructions is a bit scary, isn't it? I wasn't sure if 
> > it was worth it, since the actual problem seemed to be nothing more than 
> > a "confused" Security Center, either. I make regular full-system 
> > backups, though, so I also knew that, should something go wrong, I 
> > should be able to completely restore my system in a short period of 
> > time. Consequently, I risked going a bit into the unknown, and I'm glad 
> > that I did, because, whether it really matters much or not, I now have a 
> > healthily "non-confused" Security Center again.
> > 
> > AliceZ wrote:
> >> In Step 5, did it have a pop-up box after you clicked STOP, and did 
> >> that box state:
> >> "When Windows Management Instrumentation stop, these other services 
> >> will also stop: SECURITY CENTER and IP HELPER?"
> > 
> > I just can't remember if I got that message at the time or not, although 
> > I can definitely say that I *do*, indeed, get exactly that message when 
> > I try clicking on Stop now. So, chances are that I got that same message 
> > before, as well.
> > 
> >> And did you just click OKAY?
> > 
> > If I got the message, as I guess I probably did, then yes, that's what I 
> > did. (I don't know about the "IP Helper," but it makes perfect sense to 
> > me that it would be necessary to stop the Security Center, at least, in 
> > order for the necessary changes to take place.)
> > 
> > 
> >>
> >> "Daze N. Knights" wrote:
> >>
> >>> I had this same problem with Vista's Security Center after 
> >>> uninstalling Avira Antivir and installing AVG 8. Vista's Security 
> >>> Center continued to insist that the Antivir was installed and running 
> >>> (and even up-to-date), despite the fact that I had thoroughly 
> >>> uninstalled it (to the point of cleaning out everything I could find 
> >>> in the registry using the search terms "Avira," and "Antivir." 
> >>> Vista's Security Center, IIRC, even warned me that I had two 
> >>> anti-virus programs running, which could conflict with one another. 
> >>> Obviously, though, I had no real problems at all beyond some kind of 
> >>> confusion in my Security Center.
> >>>
> >>> Finally, someone pointed me to instructions for eliminating my 
> >>> Security Center's confusion, and hopefully they will do the same for 
> >>> you. See:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.pchell.com/support/multiple_antivirus_in_security_center.shtml 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Daze
> >>>
> >>> -------------------------------
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> AliceZ wrote:
> >>>> I recently uninstalled AVG-AV 7.5 and AVG-AS 7.5. I then installed 
> >>>> AVG8.
> >>>>
> >>>> Now when I open the Vista Security Centter and click on Malware and 
> >>>> then click on the Show me the anit-spyware programs on this computer.
> >>>> What I see is:
> >>>> AVG - Anti Spyware - Out of date
> >>>> AVG Anti-Virus Free - ON
> >>>> Windows Defender - ON
> >>>>
> >>>> I was told by AVG forum that AVG Anti Spyware should be removed. 
> >>>> Howeveer, I already removed it. The only program is AVG8 Free.
> >>>>
> >>>> Can anyone help? I checked Add/Remove and only AVG8 Free is there!
>

Answers inline:

AliceZ wrote:
> Many, many thanks.
> Would you be able to answer the following please:
> #1- Re: your: " I make regular full-system backups." How do you do this?

I use Vista's "Complete PC Backup," which is only available in the 
Business and Ultimate versions.

> 
> #2- Re: your:  " Instead of deleting the Repository folder, you could 
> instead, of course, more cautiously try renaming it (just add, for instance, 
> an XXX to its name" 
> How would this be done (for future reference, hope I don't have to do again)?

http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000846.htm

> 
> #3- I can gain access to these MS Community Boards when I sign in, on my 
> WinXP desktop. But, when I try to sign in on my Vista, I keep getting 
> returned to the original community page I was viewing. Would you know why I 
> can't sign in on the Vista?

No idea.

> 
> Once again, thanks for all your kind help.
> Alice
> 
> 
> "Daze N. Knights" wrote:
> 
>> Oh, and BTW: Instead of deleting the Repository folder, you could 
>> instead, of course, more cautiously try renaming it (just add, for 
>> instance, an XXX to its name), which would allow you to recover it if a 
>> new one wasn't automatically recreated in the course of your finishing 
>> the list of instructions. Once everything was seen it be A-OK in the 
>> end, then you could finally go back and delete it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Daze N. Knights wrote:
>>> Following those instructions is a bit scary, isn't it? I wasn't sure if 
>>> it was worth it, since the actual problem seemed to be nothing more than 
>>> a "confused" Security Center, either. I make regular full-system 
>>> backups, though, so I also knew that, should something go wrong, I 
>>> should be able to completely restore my system in a short period of 
>>> time. Consequently, I risked going a bit into the unknown, and I'm glad 
>>> that I did, because, whether it really matters much or not, I now have a 
>>> healthily "non-confused" Security Center again.
>>>
>>> AliceZ wrote:
>>>> In Step 5, did it have a pop-up box after you clicked STOP, and did 
>>>> that box state:
>>>> "When Windows Management Instrumentation stop, these other services 
>>>> will also stop: SECURITY CENTER and IP HELPER?"
>>> I just can't remember if I got that message at the time or not, although 
>>> I can definitely say that I *do*, indeed, get exactly that message when 
>>> I try clicking on Stop now. So, chances are that I got that same message 
>>> before, as well.
>>>
>>>> And did you just click OKAY?
>>> If I got the message, as I guess I probably did, then yes, that's what I 
>>> did. (I don't know about the "IP Helper," but it makes perfect sense to 
>>> me that it would be necessary to stop the Security Center, at least, in 
>>> order for the necessary changes to take place.)
>>>
>>>
>>>> "Daze N. Knights" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I had this same problem with Vista's Security Center after 
>>>>> uninstalling Avira Antivir and installing AVG 8. Vista's Security 
>>>>> Center continued to insist that the Antivir was installed and running 
>>>>> (and even up-to-date), despite the fact that I had thoroughly 
>>>>> uninstalled it (to the point of cleaning out everything I could find 
>>>>> in the registry using the search terms "Avira," and "Antivir." 
>>>>> Vista's Security Center, IIRC, even warned me that I had two 
>>>>> anti-virus programs running, which could conflict with one another. 
>>>>> Obviously, though, I had no real problems at all beyond some kind of 
>>>>> confusion in my Security Center.
>>>>>
>>>>> Finally, someone pointed me to instructions for eliminating my 
>>>>> Security Center's confusion, and hopefully they will do the same for 
>>>>> you. See:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.pchell.com/support/multiple_antivirus_in_security_center.shtml 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Daze
>>>>>
>>>>> -------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> AliceZ wrote:
>>>>>> I recently uninstalled AVG-AV 7.5 and AVG-AS 7.5. I then installed 
>>>>>> AVG8.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now when I open the Vista Security Centter and click on Malware and 
>>>>>> then click on the Show me the anit-spyware programs on this computer.
>>>>>> What I see is:
>>>>>> AVG - Anti Spyware - Out of date
>>>>>> AVG Anti-Virus Free - ON
>>>>>> Windows Defender - ON
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was told by AVG forum that AVG Anti Spyware should be removed. 
>>>>>> Howeveer, I already removed it. The only program is AVG8 Free.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can anyone help? I checked Add/Remove and only AVG8 Free is there!

Thank you.

So, in Step 11, where it states:
"11) Right-click on the Repository folder and click Delete and remove it" I 
would right click on "Roisitory folder" and instead of clicking DELETE, I 
would click on RENAME, and change the folder name to "RepositoryXXX."
And then continue with the rest of the instructions through step #12.

Complete PC Backup not available in my Home Premium. Would the System 
Restore Points be 'similar?'


================
"Daze N. Knights" wrote:

> Answers inline:
> 
> AliceZ wrote:
> > Many, many thanks.
> > Would you be able to answer the following please:
> > #1- Re: your: " I make regular full-system backups." How do you do this?
> 
> I use Vista's "Complete PC Backup," which is only available in the 
> Business and Ultimate versions.
> 
> > 
> > #2- Re: your:  " Instead of deleting the Repository folder, you could 
> > instead, of course, more cautiously try renaming it (just add, for instance, 
> > an XXX to its name" 
> > How would this be done (for future reference, hope I don't have to do again)?
> 
> http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000846.htm
> 
> > 
> > #3- I can gain access to these MS Community Boards when I sign in, on my 
> > WinXP desktop. But, when I try to sign in on my Vista, I keep getting 
> > returned to the original community page I was viewing. Would you know why I 
> > can't sign in on the Vista?
> 
> No idea.
> 
> > 
> > Once again, thanks for all your kind help.
> > Alice
> > 
> > 
> > "Daze N. Knights" wrote:
> > 
> >> Oh, and BTW: Instead of deleting the Repository folder, you could 
> >> instead, of course, more cautiously try renaming it (just add, for 
> >> instance, an XXX to its name), which would allow you to recover it if a 
> >> new one wasn't automatically recreated in the course of your finishing 
> >> the list of instructions. Once everything was seen it be A-OK in the 
> >> end, then you could finally go back and delete it.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Daze N. Knights wrote:
> >>> Following those instructions is a bit scary, isn't it? I wasn't sure if 
> >>> it was worth it, since the actual problem seemed to be nothing more than 
> >>> a "confused" Security Center, either. I make regular full-system 
> >>> backups, though, so I also knew that, should something go wrong, I 
> >>> should be able to completely restore my system in a short period of 
> >>> time. Consequently, I risked going a bit into the unknown, and I'm glad 
> >>> that I did, because, whether it really matters much or not, I now have a 
> >>> healthily "non-confused" Security Center again.
> >>>
> >>> AliceZ wrote:
> >>>> In Step 5, did it have a pop-up box after you clicked STOP, and did 
> >>>> that box state:
> >>>> "When Windows Management Instrumentation stop, these other services 
> >>>> will also stop: SECURITY CENTER and IP HELPER?"
> >>> I just can't remember if I got that message at the time or not, although 
> >>> I can definitely say that I *do*, indeed, get exactly that message when 
> >>> I try clicking on Stop now. So, chances are that I got that same message 
> >>> before, as well.
> >>>
> >>>> And did you just click OKAY?
> >>> If I got the message, as I guess I probably did, then yes, that's what I 
> >>> did. (I don't know about the "IP Helper," but it makes perfect sense to 
> >>> me that it would be necessary to stop the Security Center, at least, in 
> >>> order for the necessary changes to take place.)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> "Daze N. Knights" wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I had this same problem with Vista's Security Center after 
> >>>>> uninstalling Avira Antivir and installing AVG 8. Vista's Security 
> >>>>> Center continued to insist that the Antivir was installed and running 
> >>>>> (and even up-to-date), despite the fact that I had thoroughly 
> >>>>> uninstalled it (to the point of cleaning out everything I could find 
> >>>>> in the registry using the search terms "Avira," and "Antivir." 
> >>>>> Vista's Security Center, IIRC, even warned me that I had two 
> >>>>> anti-virus programs running, which could conflict with one another. 
> >>>>> Obviously, though, I had no real problems at all beyond some kind of 
> >>>>> confusion in my Security Center.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Finally, someone pointed me to instructions for eliminating my 
> >>>>> Security Center's confusion, and hopefully they will do the same for 
> >>>>> you. See:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.pchell.com/support/multiple_antivirus_in_security_center.shtml 
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Daze
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -------------------------------
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> AliceZ wrote:
> >>>>>> I recently uninstalled AVG-AV 7.5 and AVG-AS 7.5. I then installed 
> >>>>>> AVG8.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Now when I open the Vista Security Centter and click on Malware and 
> >>>>>> then click on the Show me the anit-spyware programs on this computer.
> >>>>>> What I see is:
> >>>>>> AVG - Anti Spyware - Out of date
> >>>>>> AVG Anti-Virus Free - ON
> >>>>>> Windows Defender - ON
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I was told by AVG forum that AVG Anti Spyware should be removed. 
> >>>>>> Howeveer, I already removed it. The only program is AVG8 Free.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Can anyone help? I checked Add/Remove and only AVG8 Free is there!
>

AliceZ wrote:
> Thank you.
> 
> So, in Step 11, where it states:
> "11) Right-click on the Repository folder and click Delete and remove it" I 
> would right click on "Roisitory folder" and instead of clicking DELETE, I 
> would click on RENAME, and change the folder name to "RepositoryXXX."
> And then continue with the rest of the instructions through step #12.

Yes (assuming Vista will allow you to rename that particular folder, 
which it might not. I just deleted it; but when making changes such as 
this, I often rename the old folder or file just as a precaution, so I 
can hopefully recover it by changing the name back to what it was if 
something goes wrong. If you just delete it, though, no doubt the folder 
will go to your Recyle Bin from which you could easily restore it later 
should a new Repository folder not be automatically created; so you 
should have that option if its not re-nameable).

> 
> Complete PC Backup not available in my Home Premium. Would the System 
> Restore Points be 'similar?'

No. I don't think System Restore could help recover from something going 
amiss by following these instructions. (But neither would I expect 
anything to go wrong, just so you precisely follow the given 
instructions. I would strongly recommend that you print them out before 
implementing them, so that you have a hard copy to refer to.)

> 
> 
> ================
> "Daze N. Knights" wrote:
> 
>> Answers inline:
>>
>> AliceZ wrote:
>>> Many, many thanks.
>>> Would you be able to answer the following please:
>>> #1- Re: your: " I make regular full-system backups." How do you do this?
>> I use Vista's "Complete PC Backup," which is only available in the 
>> Business and Ultimate versions.
>>
>>> #2- Re: your:  " Instead of deleting the Repository folder, you could 
>>> instead, of course, more cautiously try renaming it (just add, for instance, 
>>> an XXX to its name" 
>>> How would this be done (for future reference, hope I don't have to do again)?
>> http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000846.htm
>>
>>> #3- I can gain access to these MS Community Boards when I sign in, on my 
>>> WinXP desktop. But, when I try to sign in on my Vista, I keep getting 
>>> returned to the original community page I was viewing. Would you know why I 
>>> can't sign in on the Vista?
>> No idea.
>>
>>> Once again, thanks for all your kind help.
>>> Alice
>>>
>>>
>>> "Daze N. Knights" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Oh, and BTW: Instead of deleting the Repository folder, you could 
>>>> instead, of course, more cautiously try renaming it (just add, for 
>>>> instance, an XXX to its name), which would allow you to recover it if a 
>>>> new one wasn't automatically recreated in the course of your finishing 
>>>> the list of instructions. Once everything was seen it be A-OK in the 
>>>> end, then you could finally go back and delete it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Daze N. Knights wrote:
>>>>> Following those instructions is a bit scary, isn't it? I wasn't sure if 
>>>>> it was worth it, since the actual problem seemed to be nothing more than 
>>>>> a "confused" Security Center, either. I make regular full-system 
>>>>> backups, though, so I also knew that, should something go wrong, I 
>>>>> should be able to completely restore my system in a short period of 
>>>>> time. Consequently, I risked going a bit into the unknown, and I'm glad 
>>>>> that I did, because, whether it really matters much or not, I now have a 
>>>>> healthily "non-confused" Security Center again.
>>>>>
>>>>> AliceZ wrote:
>>>>>> In Step 5, did it have a pop-up box after you clicked STOP, and did 
>>>>>> that box state:
>>>>>> "When Windows Management Instrumentation stop, these other services 
>>>>>> will also stop: SECURITY CENTER and IP HELPER?"
>>>>> I just can't remember if I got that message at the time or not, although 
>>>>> I can definitely say that I *do*, indeed, get exactly that message when 
>>>>> I try clicking on Stop now. So, chances are that I got that same message 
>>>>> before, as well.
>>>>>
>>>>>> And did you just click OKAY?
>>>>> If I got the message, as I guess I probably did, then yes, that's what I 
>>>>> did. (I don't know about the "IP Helper," but it makes perfect sense to 
>>>>> me that it would be necessary to stop the Security Center, at least, in 
>>>>> order for the necessary changes to take place.)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Daze N. Knights" wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I had this same problem with Vista's Security Center after 
>>>>>>> uninstalling Avira Antivir and installing AVG 8. Vista's Security 
>>>>>>> Center continued to insist that the Antivir was installed and running 
>>>>>>> (and even up-to-date), despite the fact that I had thoroughly 
>>>>>>> uninstalled it (to the point of cleaning out everything I could find 
>>>>>>> in the registry using the search terms "Avira," and "Antivir." 
>>>>>>> Vista's Security Center, IIRC, even warned me that I had two 
>>>>>>> anti-virus programs running, which could conflict with one another. 
>>>>>>> Obviously, though, I had no real problems at all beyond some kind of 
>>>>>>> confusion in my Security Center.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Finally, someone pointed me to instructions for eliminating my 
>>>>>>> Security Center's confusion, and hopefully they will do the same for 
>>>>>>> you. See:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.pchell.com/support/multiple_antivirus_in_security_center.shtml 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Daze
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> AliceZ wrote:
>>>>>>>> I recently uninstalled AVG-AV 7.5 and AVG-AS 7.5. I then installed 
>>>>>>>> AVG8.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now when I open the Vista Security Centter and click on Malware and 
>>>>>>>> then click on the Show me the anit-spyware programs on this computer.
>>>>>>>> What I see is:
>>>>>>>> AVG - Anti Spyware - Out of date
>>>>>>>> AVG Anti-Virus Free - ON
>>>>>>>> Windows Defender - ON
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I was told by AVG forum that AVG Anti Spyware should be removed. 
>>>>>>>> Howeveer, I already removed it. The only program is AVG8 Free.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can anyone help? I checked Add/Remove and only AVG8 Free is there!

<just so you precisely follow the given instructions. I would strongly 
recommend that you print them out before implementing them, so that you have 
a hard copy to refer to.)>

Please, which instructions are you referring to?


====================
"Daze N. Knights" wrote:

> 
> AliceZ wrote:
> > Thank you.
> > 
> > So, in Step 11, where it states:
> > "11) Right-click on the Repository folder and click Delete and remove it" I 
> > would right click on "Roisitory folder" and instead of clicking DELETE, I 
> > would click on RENAME, and change the folder name to "RepositoryXXX."
> > And then continue with the rest of the instructions through step #12.
> 
> Yes (assuming Vista will allow you to rename that particular folder, 
> which it might not. I just deleted it; but when making changes such as 
> this, I often rename the old folder or file just as a precaution, so I 
> can hopefully recover it by changing the name back to what it was if 
> something goes wrong. If you just delete it, though, no doubt the folder 
> will go to your Recyle Bin from which you could easily restore it later 
> should a new Repository folder not be automatically created; so you 
> should have that option if its not re-nameable).
> 
> > 
> > Complete PC Backup not available in my Home Premium. Would the System 
> > Restore Points be 'similar?'
> 
> No. I don't think System Restore could help recover from something going 
> amiss by following these instructions. (But neither would I expect 
> anything to go wrong, just so you precisely follow the given 
> instructions. I would strongly recommend that you print them out before 
> implementing them, so that you have a hard copy to refer to.)
> 
> > 
> > 
> > ================
> > "Daze N. Knights" wrote:
> > 
> >> Answers inline:
> >>
> >> AliceZ wrote:
> >>> Many, many thanks.
> >>> Would you be able to answer the following please:
> >>> #1- Re: your: " I make regular full-system backups." How do you do this?
> >> I use Vista's "Complete PC Backup," which is only available in the 
> >> Business and Ultimate versions.
> >>
> >>> #2- Re: your:  " Instead of deleting the Repository folder, you could 
> >>> instead, of course, more cautiously try renaming it (just add, for instance, 
> >>> an XXX to its name" 
> >>> How would this be done (for future reference, hope I don't have to do again)?
> >> http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000846.htm
> >>
> >>> #3- I can gain access to these MS Community Boards when I sign in, on my 
> >>> WinXP desktop. But, when I try to sign in on my Vista, I keep getting 
> >>> returned to the original community page I was viewing. Would you know why I 
> >>> can't sign in on the Vista?
> >> No idea.
> >>
> >>> Once again, thanks for all your kind help.
> >>> Alice
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Daze N. Knights" wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Oh, and BTW: Instead of deleting the Repository folder, you could 
> >>>> instead, of course, more cautiously try renaming it (just add, for 
> >>>> instance, an XXX to its name), which would allow you to recover it if a 
> >>>> new one wasn't automatically recreated in the course of your finishing 
> >>>> the list of instructions. Once everything was seen it be A-OK in the 
> >>>> end, then you could finally go back and delete it.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Daze N. Knights wrote:
> >>>>> Following those instructions is a bit scary, isn't it? I wasn't sure if 
> >>>>> it was worth it, since the actual problem seemed to be nothing more than 
> >>>>> a "confused" Security Center, either. I make regular full-system 
> >>>>> backups, though, so I also knew that, should something go wrong, I 
> >>>>> should be able to completely restore my system in a short period of 
> >>>>> time. Consequently, I risked going a bit into the unknown, and I'm glad 
> >>>>> that I did, because, whether it really matters much or not, I now have a 
> >>>>> healthily "non-confused" Security Center again.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> AliceZ wrote:
> >>>>>> In Step 5, did it have a pop-up box after you clicked STOP, and did 
> >>>>>> that box state:
> >>>>>> "When Windows Management Instrumentation stop, these other services 
> >>>>>> will also stop: SECURITY CENTER and IP HELPER?"
> >>>>> I just can't remember if I got that message at the time or not, although 
> >>>>> I can definitely say that I *do*, indeed, get exactly that message when 
> >>>>> I try clicking on Stop now. So, chances are that I got that same message 
> >>>>> before, as well.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> And did you just click OKAY?
> >>>>> If I got the message, as I guess I probably did, then yes, that's what I 
> >>>>> did. (I don't know about the "IP Helper," but it makes perfect sense to 
> >>>>> me that it would be necessary to stop the Security Center, at least, in 
> >>>>> order for the necessary changes to take place.)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> "Daze N. Knights" wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I had this same problem with Vista's Security Center after 
> >>>>>>> uninstalling Avira Antivir and installing AVG 8. Vista's Security 
> >>>>>>> Center continued to insist that the Antivir was installed and running 
> >>>>>>> (and even up-to-date), despite the fact that I had thoroughly 
> >>>>>>> uninstalled it (to the point of cleaning out everything I could find 
> >>>>>>> in the registry using the search terms "Avira," and "Antivir." 
> >>>>>>> Vista's Security Center, IIRC, even warned me that I had two 
> >>>>>>> anti-virus programs running, which could conflict with one another. 
> >>>>>>> Obviously, though, I had no real problems at all beyond some kind of 
> >>>>>>> confusion in my Security Center.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Finally, someone pointed me to instructions for eliminating my 
> >>>>>>> Security Center's confusion, and hopefully they will do the same for 
> >>>>>>> you. See:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> http://www.pchell.com/support/multiple_antivirus_in_security_center.shtml 
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Daze
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -------------------------------
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> AliceZ wrote:
> >>>>>>>> I recently uninstalled AVG-AV 7.5 and AVG-AS 7.5. I then installed 
> >>>>>>>> AVG8.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Now when I open the Vista Security Centter and click on Malware and 
> >>>>>>>> then click on the Show me the anit-spyware programs on this computer.
> >>>>>>>> What I see is:
> >>>>>>>> AVG - Anti Spyware - Out of date
> >>>>>>>> AVG Anti-Virus Free - ON
> >>>>>>>> Windows Defender - ON
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I was told by AVG forum that AVG Anti Spyware should be removed. 
> >>>>>>>> Howeveer, I already removed it. The only program is AVG8 Free.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Can anyone help? I checked Add/Remove and only AVG8 Free is there!
>

AliceZ wrote:
> <just so you precisely follow the given instructions. I would strongly 
> recommend that you print them out before implementing them, so that you have 
> a hard copy to refer to.)>
> 
> Please, which instructions are you referring to?

Uhhh . . . the 14-step instructions to which I referred you at

http://www.pchell.com/support/multiple_antivirus_in_security_center.shtml

for solving your stated problem and about which you have just been 
asking me many questions over the past two days . . . ??

Honestly, I have been wondering if you might be best off just leaving 
your problem alone. Their are far worse things than a "confused" 
Security Center, which is intended only to warn you of security 
deficiencies and is now merely reporting incorrectly that you have an 
out-of-date security application (AVG - Anti Spyware) that you know 
actually no longer exists on your computer at all. Since you know that 
Vista's Security Center is giving you a false report on this particular 
matter, you also know that you can safely ignore it because it is not an 
actual problem.

When you originally asked for help and I referred you to the 
instructions on

http://www.pchell.com/support/multiple_antivirus_in_security_center.shtml

with an explanation of how they had resolved a very similar problem for 
me, I seem to have incorrectly assumed that you had more knowledge than 
you do of computer basics. Since then, you have indicated that you 
didn't know how to rename a file or folder, which gave me pause to 
wonder if you might not be better off leaving things as they are. 
Although these 14-step instructions are very clear and easy to follow, 
they do involve making changes in a service (in this case: Windows 
Management Instrumentation) and a Windows folder (in this case: 
Repository), the ramifications of which are matters beyond the 
understanding of novice computer users and, if not done carefully, can 
result in new problems that may be worse than the original. I would not 
care to feel responsible for this happening to you.

I did follow the 14 steps and it did solve the problem and I did save the 
instructions. I just did not understand which "instructions" you were 
referring to in your previousw post.
Thank you for all you help and I will not bother you again.
Alice
============
"Daze N. Knights" wrote:

> 
> 
> AliceZ wrote:
> > <just so you precisely follow the given instructions. I would strongly 
> > recommend that you print them out before implementing them, so that you have 
> > a hard copy to refer to.)>
> > 
> > Please, which instructions are you referring to?
> 
> Uhhh . . . the 14-step instructions to which I referred you at
> 
> http://www.pchell.com/support/multiple_antivirus_in_security_center.shtml
> 
> for solving your stated problem and about which you have just been 
> asking me many questions over the past two days . . . ??
> 
> Honestly, I have been wondering if you might be best off just leaving 
> your problem alone. Their are far worse things than a "confused" 
> Security Center, which is intended only to warn you of security 
> deficiencies and is now merely reporting incorrectly that you have an 
> out-of-date security application (AVG - Anti Spyware) that you know 
> actually no longer exists on your computer at all. Since you know that 
> Vista's Security Center is giving you a false report on this particular 
> matter, you also know that you can safely ignore it because it is not an 
> actual problem.
> 
> When you originally asked for help and I referred you to the 
> instructions on
> 
> http://www.pchell.com/support/multiple_antivirus_in_security_center.shtml
> 
> with an explanation of how they had resolved a very similar problem for 
> me, I seem to have incorrectly assumed that you had more knowledge than 
> you do of computer basics. Since then, you have indicated that you 
> didn't know how to rename a file or folder, which gave me pause to 
> wonder if you might not be better off leaving things as they are. 
> Although these 14-step instructions are very clear and easy to follow, 
> they do involve making changes in a service (in this case: Windows 
> Management Instrumentation) and a Windows folder (in this case: 
> Repository), the ramifications of which are matters beyond the 
> understanding of novice computer users and, if not done carefully, can 
> result in new problems that may be worse than the original. I would not 
> care to feel responsible for this happening to you.
>

AliceZ wrote:
> I did follow the 14 steps and it did solve the problem and I did save the 
> instructions. I just did not understand which "instructions" you were 
> referring to in your previousw post.
> Thank you for all you help and I will not bother you again.
> Alice

Hey! No problem. I'm so glad to hear of your success! That's a real 
feather in your cap, IMO.