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date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:22:01 -0700,    group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.file_management        back       


System Fonts   
I purchased a font managing program called Extensis Suitcase.  The theory of 
it is that I can keep fonts that are NOT system fonts organized in this 
"suitcase" so that the 100s of fonts (way too many) that are currently listed 
under Windows\Fonts do not have to all load every time I start a program.  
They are held in this "suitcase" and called for on an as needed basis.  i.e. 
I move them from Windows\Fonts into the "suitcase" and they then become no 
longer listed/available under Windows\Fonts and won't all load each time I 
open a program.

In order to use this font managing program, I am advised that I must NOT 
move or otherwise mess with the required system fonts for Vista Ultimate.  I 
have discovered some of them for Vista (Calibri, Cambria and so forth) but I 
do not know what they ALL are or where they are located.

I have looked everywhere, including system folders etc. and done searches 
but am still unsure what fonts are necessary to make sure Vista runs as it 
should.  In other words, I won't want to mess things up but DO want to use 
this font management program.  Older Windows versions (Windows XP Pro and 
before) seemed to make it easy to locate the system fonts required for those 
operating systems - marlett, script, serife, ssseriff etc. and were pretty 
easy to spot but with Vista I'm not sure.

My question is this:  Does anyone know what the required system fonts are 
for Vista Ultimate SP1 are and where they are located so I don't make a goof 
and mess with ones I shouldn't?

TIA for any assistance.
date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:22:01 -0700   author:   Deb

Re: System Fonts   
Deb wrote:

> I purchased a font managing program called Extensis Suitcase.  The theory
> of it is that I can keep fonts that are NOT system fonts organized in this
> "suitcase" so that the 100s of fonts (way too many) that are currently
> listed under Windows\Fonts do not have to all load every time I start a
> program.
> They are held in this "suitcase" and called for on an as needed basis. 
> i.e. I move them from Windows\Fonts into the "suitcase" and they then
> become no longer listed/available under Windows\Fonts and won't all load
> each time I open a program.
> 
> In order to use this font managing program, I am advised that I must NOT
> move or otherwise mess with the required system fonts for Vista Ultimate. 
> I have discovered some of them for Vista (Calibri, Cambria and so forth)
> but I do not know what they ALL are or where they are located.
> 
> I have looked everywhere, including system folders etc. and done searches
> but am still unsure what fonts are necessary to make sure Vista runs as it
> should.  In other words, I won't want to mess things up but DO want to use
> this font management program.  Older Windows versions (Windows XP Pro and
> before) seemed to make it easy to locate the system fonts required for
> those operating systems - marlett, script, serife, ssseriff etc. and were
> pretty easy to spot but with Vista I'm not sure.
> 
> My question is this:  Does anyone know what the required system fonts are
> for Vista Ultimate SP1 are and where they are located so I don't make a
> goof and mess with ones I shouldn't?

A quick Google doesn't bring me anything definitive, but I do have this:

Unofficial but useful list of fonts in Vista -
http://blogs.msdn.com/michkap/archive/2007/02/06/1607855.aspx


Malke
-- 
MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 11:00:50 -0700   author:   Malke lid

Re: System Fonts   
"Deb"  wrote in message 
news:675BA7F7-0BB3-4DA6-AF8F-AAD57FFED1BA@microsoft.com...
>I purchased a font managing program called Extensis Suitcase.  The theory 
>of
> it is that I can keep fonts that are NOT system fonts organized in this
> "suitcase" so that the 100s of fonts (way too many) that are currently 
> listed
> under Windows\Fonts do not have to all load every time I start a program.
> They are held in this "suitcase" and called for on an as needed basis. 
> i.e.
> I move them from Windows\Fonts into the "suitcase" and they then become no
> longer listed/available under Windows\Fonts and won't all load each time I
> open a program.
>
> In order to use this font managing program, I am advised that I must NOT
> move or otherwise mess with the required system fonts for Vista Ultimate. 
> I
> have discovered some of them for Vista (Calibri, Cambria and so forth) but 
> I
> do not know what they ALL are or where they are located.
>
> I have looked everywhere, including system folders etc. and done searches
> but am still unsure what fonts are necessary to make sure Vista runs as it
> should.  In other words, I won't want to mess things up but DO want to use
> this font management program.  Older Windows versions (Windows XP Pro and
> before) seemed to make it easy to locate the system fonts required for 
> those
> operating systems - marlett, script, serife, ssseriff etc. and were pretty
> easy to spot but with Vista I'm not sure.
>
> My question is this:  Does anyone know what the required system fonts are
> for Vista Ultimate SP1 are and where they are located so I don't make a 
> goof
> and mess with ones I shouldn't?
>
> TIA for any assistance.

Well I can't give you a list, but if you are talking about the fonts that 
came with a new PC with Windows installed, you will spend far more time 
fooling with the font management program over time than you ever will save 
by using it. I have one two, freeware, but I realized I was spend lots of 
time managing fonts, and gaining no real time anywhere else. There just 
aren't that many, and they don't take that much time to load. In fact, after 
adding a thousand more, the only program I ever found that took longer was 
GIMP, and I don't use it now.

Have fun.
date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 14:38:55 -0500   author:   Wandering

Re: System Fonts   
"Deb"  wrote in message 
news:675BA7F7-0BB3-4DA6-AF8F-AAD57FFED1BA@microsoft.com...
> I purchased a font managing program called Extensis Suitcase.  The theory 
> of
> it is that I can keep fonts that are NOT system fonts organized in this
> "suitcase" so that the 100s of fonts (way too many) that are currently 
> listed
> under Windows\Fonts do not have to all load every time I start a program.
> They are held in this "suitcase" and called for on an as needed basis. 
> i.e.
> I move them from Windows\Fonts into the "suitcase" and they then become no
> longer listed/available under Windows\Fonts and won't all load each time I
> open a program.
>
> In order to use this font managing program, I am advised that I must NOT
> move or otherwise mess with the required system fonts for Vista Ultimate. 
> I
> have discovered some of them for Vista (Calibri, Cambria and so forth) but 
> I
> do not know what they ALL are or where they are located.
>
> I have looked everywhere, including system folders etc. and done searches
> but am still unsure what fonts are necessary to make sure Vista runs as it
> should.  In other words, I won't want to mess things up but DO want to use
> this font management program.  Older Windows versions (Windows XP Pro and
> before) seemed to make it easy to locate the system fonts required for 
> those
> operating systems - marlett, script, serife, ssseriff etc. and were pretty
> easy to spot but with Vista I'm not sure.
>
> My question is this:  Does anyone know what the required system fonts are
> for Vista Ultimate SP1 are and where they are located so I don't make a 
> goof
> and mess with ones I shouldn't?
>
> TIA for any assistance.

This web site information was posted some time back on one of the Vista 
Newsgroups and I archived the URL so here it is:

http://www.safalra.com/web-design/typography/windows-vista-supplied-fonts/
date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 20:43:48 -0400   author:   LVTravel

Re: System Fonts   
I do not know of any accurate list anywhere of "required" fonts. Such a list 
is quite elusive depending as it does on what applications you have 
installed (e.g. what fonts your Word templates use). It is even difficult to 
get a useful one for the operating system depending as it does on the 
language(s) in use.

Here is a list of supplied fonts for Vista Ultimate. I cannot attest that it 
is complete. Not all fonts are "necessary". In any event, substitution will 
be done for any that are missing when requested. Recent Windows versions do 
not load any fonts that are not actually used. Note that windows Vista is 
Unicode-enabled. I would suggest that you let the system look after its own 
fonts and leave all fonts supplied with Vista installed.

Core Fonts:

Arial
Courier New
Times New Roman
Symbol
Wingdings

Core UI Fonts:

Microsoft Sans Serif
Segoe UI
Tahoma

ClearType Collection Fonts:

Calibri
Cambria
Candara
Consolas
Constantias
Corbel

Other Western Fonts:

Arial Black
Franklin Gothic Medium
Georgia
Impact
Lucida Console
Lucida Sans Console
Marlett
Palatino Linotype
Segoe Print
Segoe Script
Trebuchet MS
Verdana
Webdings

East Asian Fonts

Batang/BatangChe
DFKai-SB
Dotum/DotumChe
Fangsong
Gulim/GulimChe
Gungsuh/GungsuhChe
KaiTi
Malgun Gothic
Meiryo
Microsoft JhengHei
Microsoft YaHei
MingLiU_HKSCS/MingLiU_HKSCS-ExtB
MingLiU-ExtB/PMingLiU-ExtB
MS Gothic/MS PGothic/MS UI Gothic
MS Mincho/MS PMincho
SimHei
Simsun/NSimsun
SimSun-ExtB

Arabic Fonts:

Andalus
Arabic Typesetting
Microsoft Uighur
Simplified Arabic
Traditional Arabic

Hebrew Fonts:

Aharoni Bold
David
FrankRuehl
Gisha
Levenim
Miriam
Narkisim
Rod

Thai Fonts:

Angsana New/AngsanaUPC
Browallia New/BrowalliaUPC
Cordia New/CordiaUPC
DilleniaUPC
EucrosiUPC
FreesiaUPC
IrisUPC
JasmineUPC
KodchiangUPC
Leelawadee
LilyUPC

Indic Fonts:

Gautami
Iskoola Pota
Kalinga
Kartika
Latha
Mangal
Raavi
Shruti
Tunga
Vrinda

Other Fonts

DaunPenh
DokChampa
Estrangelo Edessa
Euphemia
Microsoft Himalaya
Microsoft Yi Baiti
Mongolian Baiti
MV Boli
Nyala
Plantagenet Cherokee
Sylfaen

-- 

Tom
MSMVP 1998-2007




"Deb"  wrote in message 
news:675BA7F7-0BB3-4DA6-AF8F-AAD57FFED1BA@microsoft.com...
>I purchased a font managing program called Extensis Suitcase.  The theory 
>of
> it is that I can keep fonts that are NOT system fonts organized in this
> "suitcase" so that the 100s of fonts (way too many) that are currently 
> listed
> under Windows\Fonts do not have to all load every time I start a program.
> They are held in this "suitcase" and called for on an as needed basis. 
> i.e.
> I move them from Windows\Fonts into the "suitcase" and they then become no
> longer listed/available under Windows\Fonts and won't all load each time I
> open a program.
>
> In order to use this font managing program, I am advised that I must NOT
> move or otherwise mess with the required system fonts for Vista Ultimate. 
> I
> have discovered some of them for Vista (Calibri, Cambria and so forth) but 
> I
> do not know what they ALL are or where they are located.
>
> I have looked everywhere, including system folders etc. and done searches
> but am still unsure what fonts are necessary to make sure Vista runs as it
> should.  In other words, I won't want to mess things up but DO want to use
> this font management program.  Older Windows versions (Windows XP Pro and
> before) seemed to make it easy to locate the system fonts required for 
> those
> operating systems - marlett, script, serife, ssseriff etc. and were pretty
> easy to spot but with Vista I'm not sure.
>
> My question is this:  Does anyone know what the required system fonts are
> for Vista Ultimate SP1 are and where they are located so I don't make a 
> goof
> and mess with ones I shouldn't?
>
> TIA for any assistance.
date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 01:01:02 -0300   author:   Tom Ferguson

Re: System Fonts   
Thanks all for the information.  I think " Wandering" hit the nail on the 
head - so far I've spent too much time trying to figure this program out - 
not worth it!  I really wanted something that would maybe tell me if I had 
fonts that were close dups to others (i.e. at least they look similar) so I 
could weed things out some but I think I'm better off leaving things alone.

Again, thanks for the responses.

"Tom Ferguson" wrote:

> I do not know of any accurate list anywhere of "required" fonts. Such a list 
> is quite elusive depending as it does on what applications you have 
> installed (e.g. what fonts your Word templates use). It is even difficult to 
> get a useful one for the operating system depending as it does on the 
> language(s) in use.
> 
> Here is a list of supplied fonts for Vista Ultimate. I cannot attest that it 
> is complete. Not all fonts are "necessary". In any event, substitution will 
> be done for any that are missing when requested. Recent Windows versions do 
> not load any fonts that are not actually used. Note that windows Vista is 
> Unicode-enabled. I would suggest that you let the system look after its own 
> fonts and leave all fonts supplied with Vista installed.
> 
> Core Fonts:
> 
> Arial
> Courier New
> Times New Roman
> Symbol
> Wingdings
> 
> Core UI Fonts:
> 
> Microsoft Sans Serif
> Segoe UI
> Tahoma
> 
> ClearType Collection Fonts:
> 
> Calibri
> Cambria
> Candara
> Consolas
> Constantias
> Corbel
> 
> Other Western Fonts:
> 
> Arial Black
> Franklin Gothic Medium
> Georgia
> Impact
> Lucida Console
> Lucida Sans Console
> Marlett
> Palatino Linotype
> Segoe Print
> Segoe Script
> Trebuchet MS
> Verdana
> Webdings
> 
> East Asian Fonts
> 
> Batang/BatangChe
> DFKai-SB
> Dotum/DotumChe
> Fangsong
> Gulim/GulimChe
> Gungsuh/GungsuhChe
> KaiTi
> Malgun Gothic
> Meiryo
> Microsoft JhengHei
> Microsoft YaHei
> MingLiU_HKSCS/MingLiU_HKSCS-ExtB
> MingLiU-ExtB/PMingLiU-ExtB
> MS Gothic/MS PGothic/MS UI Gothic
> MS Mincho/MS PMincho
> SimHei
> Simsun/NSimsun
> SimSun-ExtB
> 
> Arabic Fonts:
> 
> Andalus
> Arabic Typesetting
> Microsoft Uighur
> Simplified Arabic
> Traditional Arabic
> 
> Hebrew Fonts:
> 
> Aharoni Bold
> David
> FrankRuehl
> Gisha
> Levenim
> Miriam
> Narkisim
> Rod
> 
> Thai Fonts:
> 
> Angsana New/AngsanaUPC
> Browallia New/BrowalliaUPC
> Cordia New/CordiaUPC
> DilleniaUPC
> EucrosiUPC
> FreesiaUPC
> IrisUPC
> JasmineUPC
> KodchiangUPC
> Leelawadee
> LilyUPC
> 
> Indic Fonts:
> 
> Gautami
> Iskoola Pota
> Kalinga
> Kartika
> Latha
> Mangal
> Raavi
> Shruti
> Tunga
> Vrinda
> 
> Other Fonts
> 
> DaunPenh
> DokChampa
> Estrangelo Edessa
> Euphemia
> Microsoft Himalaya
> Microsoft Yi Baiti
> Mongolian Baiti
> MV Boli
> Nyala
> Plantagenet Cherokee
> Sylfaen
> 
> -- 
> 
> Tom
> MSMVP 1998-2007
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Deb"  wrote in message 
> news:675BA7F7-0BB3-4DA6-AF8F-AAD57FFED1BA@microsoft.com...
> >I purchased a font managing program called Extensis Suitcase.  The theory 
> >of
> > it is that I can keep fonts that are NOT system fonts organized in this
> > "suitcase" so that the 100s of fonts (way too many) that are currently 
> > listed
> > under Windows\Fonts do not have to all load every time I start a program.
> > They are held in this "suitcase" and called for on an as needed basis. 
> > i.e.
> > I move them from Windows\Fonts into the "suitcase" and they then become no
> > longer listed/available under Windows\Fonts and won't all load each time I
> > open a program.
> >
> > In order to use this font managing program, I am advised that I must NOT
> > move or otherwise mess with the required system fonts for Vista Ultimate. 
> > I
> > have discovered some of them for Vista (Calibri, Cambria and so forth) but 
> > I
> > do not know what they ALL are or where they are located.
> >
> > I have looked everywhere, including system folders etc. and done searches
> > but am still unsure what fonts are necessary to make sure Vista runs as it
> > should.  In other words, I won't want to mess things up but DO want to use
> > this font management program.  Older Windows versions (Windows XP Pro and
> > before) seemed to make it easy to locate the system fonts required for 
> > those
> > operating systems - marlett, script, serife, ssseriff etc. and were pretty
> > easy to spot but with Vista I'm not sure.
> >
> > My question is this:  Does anyone know what the required system fonts are
> > for Vista Ultimate SP1 are and where they are located so I don't make a 
> > goof
> > and mess with ones I shouldn't?
> >
> > TIA for any assistance. 
> 
>
date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 09:08:03 -0700   author:   Deb

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