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date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:09:00 -0500,    group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.file_management        back       


Pls answer huge problem   
I use wopti ultilities. It's a great program and i got a better
performance of my computer but...i used the built in defrag utility and
this is what happend:
On my C: partition that is about 54 GB i had 24 GB free. When i used
defrag, suddenly have 300MB free and when i analized it was hugely
fragmented, and i get the messege of low disk space. I used windows
defrag and some other third party defrag but non help. Pls i need help
how to fix the problem. Restore donn't work because it says i have low
disk space!!
So to sumraize... i had 24 gb free, now i have 300mb free and a badly
fragmented disk after using wopti build in defrag...non other defrag
help. HOW DO I FIX THIS?!?!?!


-- 
Iceman_377
date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:09:00 -0500   author:   Iceman_377

Re: Pls answer huge problem   
Because wopi build in defrag has difficulty processing Vista's system
shadow storage this happens do this:

you can lower unnecessary large system shadow storage by:

Clicking start >> Accessories >>right click on command >>select run as
administrator >> copy and paste this syntax:

C:\Windows\system32\vssadmin resize shadowstorage /On=C: /For=C:
/Maxsize=2GB

your System Restore shadow storage will now be resized to a maximum of
2GB you should see an immediate influx of available space               


Check if when Vista resizes the restore size it refragments your drive


-- 
Ultimate User
date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:43:49 -0500   author:   Ultimate User

Re: Pls answer huge problem   
Ultimate User;801472 Wrote: 
> Because wopi build in defrag has difficulty processing Vista's system
> shadow storage this happens do this:
> 
> you can lower unnecessary large system shadow storage by:
> 
> Clicking start >> Accessories >>right click on command >>select run as
> administrator >> copy and paste this syntax:
> 
> C:\Windows\system32\vssadmin resize shadowstorage /On=C: /For=C:
> /Maxsize=2GB
> 
> your System Restore shadow storage will now be resized to a maximum of
> 2GB you should see an immediate influx of available space               
> 
> 
> Check if when Vista resizes the restore size it refragments your drive

I had 300mb free now i have 6,79GB but that is still far away from 24GB
i had...and the disk is still VERY HIGH fragmented, and still defrag
program cant defrag. My disk wasn't so fragmented at all, i always use
regulary tuneup defrag 2008 but now it cant finish the job, something is
still a problem. HELP!


-- 
Iceman_377
date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:29:51 -0500   author:   Iceman_377

Re: Pls answer huge problem   
On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:29:51 -0500, Iceman_377
 wrote:

>I had 300mb free now i have 6,79GB but that is still far away from 24GB
>i had...and the disk is still VERY HIGH fragmented, and still defrag
>program cant defrag. My disk wasn't so fragmented at all, i always use
>regulary tuneup defrag 2008 but now it cant finish the job, something is
>still a problem. HELP!

Schedule the drive for CHKDSK on a reboot.

Run Vista's disk cleaner after the reboot, or download and run
CCleaner - skipping the registry cleaner part..
date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:53:14 -0500   author:   Paul Montgomery

Re: Pls answer huge problem   
Since apparently wopti utilities has only a single version, which according 
to their blurb requires only win98 or any other version of win. Then IMO its 
not worth installing on either a winnt based system or a Vista system since 
both are completely different to win9*, not only in the GUI but how win was 
actually coded.
How can anyone expect a utility that runs in win9* to run correctly on a 
completely different version of win?
If they produce a version the runs only on Vista then by all means try it, 
untill then steer clear.

"Iceman_377"  wrote in message 
news:3c0f64e52e16b6b15bc3648de4e95c92@nntp-gateway.com...
>
> Ultimate User;801472 Wrote:
>> Because wopi build in defrag has difficulty processing Vista's system
>> shadow storage this happens do this:
>>
>> you can lower unnecessary large system shadow storage by:
>>
>> Clicking start >> Accessories >>right click on command >>select run as
>> administrator >> copy and paste this syntax:
>>
>> C:\Windows\system32\vssadmin resize shadowstorage /On=C: /For=C:
>> /Maxsize=2GB
>>
>> your System Restore shadow storage will now be resized to a maximum of
>> 2GB you should see an immediate influx of available space
>>
>>
>> Check if when Vista resizes the restore size it refragments your drive
>
> I had 300mb free now i have 6,79GB but that is still far away from 24GB
> i had...and the disk is still VERY HIGH fragmented, and still defrag
> program cant defrag. My disk wasn't so fragmented at all, i always use
> regulary tuneup defrag 2008 but now it cant finish the job, something is
> still a problem. HELP!
>
>
> -- 
> Iceman_377
date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 22:45:44 +0100   author:   DL address@invalid

Re: Pls answer huge problem   
I solved the problem :)


-- 
Iceman_377
date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:53:57 -0500   author:   Iceman_377

Re: Pls answer huge problem   
Iceman_377 wrote:
> I solved the problem :)
> 
> 
Fer Crisakes, please fill us in!!

-- 
Dave T.

I've learned that whatever hits the fan will not be evenly distributed.
date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:36:45 -0700   author:   Dave T.

Re: Pls answer huge problem   
Dave T.;801927 Wrote: 
> Iceman_377 wrote:> > > 
> > > I solved the problem :)
> > >
> > > > > Fer Crisakes, please fill us in!!
> 
> --
> Dave T.
> 
> I've learned that whatever hits the fan will not be evenly
> distributed.

Well my hard disk wasn't at all fagmented, the reson why it showed so
many fragments was because of a file that wopti maked. Wopti when run by
an administrator still can't make a backup of the registry. When i tryed
to do that it lasted so long i ended it in task manger. But by doing
that wopti made a file that was 19,8GB BIG. When i deleted it my hard
disk wasnt fragmented and now i have my 24GB back. So don't use backup
regestry of wopti use manual, and don't use wopti defrag it messes up
the shadow storage. But still i have to repeat. Wopti is the only
utility that made my computer run faster. It has great cleaners (better
than any i tryed), optimizers (realy speed up) but it has these 2
problems so don't mess with that.


-- 
Iceman_377
date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 03:42:32 -0500   author:   Iceman_377

Re: Pls answer huge problem   
Wopti.....don't use it


-- 
Ultimate User
date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:02:27 -0500   author:   Ultimate User

Re: Pls answer huge problem   
I think people should use wopti, it full of information and harmless
cleaners. U can opitmize everything with ease, and it has that logo
(cerified for Windows VIsta)
Maybe the defrag wasn't the problem, it was me actualy that ended the
wopti and task manager in the middle of work witch led to huge 19GB
file. And last but not least, Wopti is Microsoft Partner. Use it...


-- 
Iceman_377
date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:20:27 -0500   author:   Iceman_377

Re: Pls answer huge problem   
On checking the appropriate MS 'certified for Vista site' wopti is not 
listed
Niether are they listed, in the US, as a Microsoft Certified Partner

If you click on 'certified for vista' logo on the wopti site it simply links 
to a list of shareware awards, as does the Certified Partner

Since some of the wopti utilities, do not work, by your own admission in 
Vista, the obvious conclusion is that is not Vista compatible & the 
'certified logo' would thus appear to be a scam on behalf of wopti. Like 
most of these utilities they are 'snake oil' and should'nt be unleashed on 
any nt based o/s or Vista

"Iceman_377"  wrote in message 
news:f0f7d34869523bdc888a4684b1bef819@nntp-gateway.com...
>
> I think people should use wopti, it full of information and harmless
> cleaners. U can opitmize everything with ease, and it has that logo
> (cerified for Windows VIsta)
> Maybe the defrag wasn't the problem, it was me actualy that ended the
> wopti and task manager in the middle of work witch led to huge 19GB
> file. And last but not least, Wopti is Microsoft Partner. Use it...
>
>
> -- 
> Iceman_377
date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 19:43:48 +0100   author:   DL address@invalid

Re: Pls answer huge problem   
OMFG, sry about that :), BUT WOPTI DON'T USE IT!!!!!
MESSES UP THE SYSTEM IN MANY WAYS!!!!


-- 
Iceman_377
date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 07:34:59 -0500   author:   Iceman_377

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