hi there, i have vista home premium. Recently i installed magic video converter. after i installed the program, i went to "start" -> "all programs, " i see this "programs" folder. I clicked on that, all it shows is the list of softwares/programs installed in this computer (same list of stuff from "all programs" ) Is there anyway to get rid of this? i like the video program but hate "programs" folder inside "all programs" i think it has something to do with pcoffin.sys (not exact spelling) or something. -- Message posted via http://www.windowskb.com