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date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:06:29 -0500,    group: microsoft.public.windows.vista.file_management        back       


LOST Disk space for no reason   
Hi, I am on Vista 64 SP1 Home Version. 

Under Computer, the Local Disk C: shows I have used 57GB of C drive.

But in C Drive, I highlighted all the folders and hit properities, it
shows only about 47 or so GB. I have enalbed display all hidden files
and system files. So where the heck did the 10 GB space go ?


-- 
redheart
date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:06:29 -0500   author:   redheart

Re: LOST Disk space for no reason   
Disable system protection and reboot.


-- 
SCSIraidGURU

Michael A. McKenney
'www.SCSIraidGURU.com' (http://www.SCSIraidGURU.com)

Supermicro X7DWA-N server board
pair of Intel E5430 quad core 2.66 GHz Xeons
16GB DDR667
SAS RAID
eVGA 8800 GTS 640 MB video card
date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 18:08:52 -0500   author:   SCSIraidGURU

Re: LOST Disk space for no reason   
Folders that require permission to access will not be included in the file 
size usage calculations. For example it I have a separate account on my 
computer other than the one I am logged in as and it has folders that are 
not public but require permission to access and if I check the properties of 
one of these folders, it will show 0 bytes used, even if many gigabytes of 
files are inside the folder.

"redheart"  wrote in message 
news:c8908bb002ee37850df11486cdbddc9c@nntp-gateway.com...
>
> Hi, I am on Vista 64 SP1 Home Version.
>
> Under Computer, the Local Disk C: shows I have used 57GB of C drive.
>
> But in C Drive, I highlighted all the folders and hit properities, it
> shows only about 47 or so GB. I have enalbed display all hidden files
> and system files. So where the heck did the 10 GB space go ?
>
>
> -- 
> redheart
date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 23:29:37 -0700   author:   Bender

Re: LOST Disk space for no reason   
Bender;781183 Wrote: 
> Folders that require permission to access will not be included in the
> file
> size usage calculations. For example it I have a separate account on my
> computer other than the one I am logged in as and it has folders that
> are
> not public but require permission to access and if I check the
> properties of
> one of these folders, it will show 0 bytes used, even if many gigabytes
> of
> files are inside the folder.
> 
> "redheart"  wrote in message
> news:c8908bb002ee37850df11486cdbddc9c@xxxxxx-gateway.com...> > > 
> > >
> > > Hi, I am on Vista 64 SP1 Home Version.
> > >
> > > Under Computer, the Local Disk C: shows I have used 57GB of C drive.
> > >
> > > But in C Drive, I highlighted all the folders and hit properities, it
> > > shows only about 47 or so GB. I have enalbed display all hidden files
> > > and system files. So where the heck did the 10 GB space go ?
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > redheart > > 

what should I do then ?


-- 
redheart
date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:39:58 -0500   author:   redheart

Re: LOST Disk space for no reason   
Dont worry about it, your allmost ceratainly never going to get a true 
picture using your method

"redheart"  wrote in message 
news:b201f04e96502fcfc4fcdd704f437a32@nntp-gateway.com...
>
> Bender;781183 Wrote:
>> Folders that require permission to access will not be included in the
>> file
>> size usage calculations. For example it I have a separate account on my
>> computer other than the one I am logged in as and it has folders that
>> are
>> not public but require permission to access and if I check the
>> properties of
>> one of these folders, it will show 0 bytes used, even if many gigabytes
>> of
>> files are inside the folder.
>>
>> "redheart"  wrote in message
>> news:c8908bb002ee37850df11486cdbddc9c@xxxxxx-gateway.com...> > >
>> > >
>> > > Hi, I am on Vista 64 SP1 Home Version.
>> > >
>> > > Under Computer, the Local Disk C: shows I have used 57GB of C drive.
>> > >
>> > > But in C Drive, I highlighted all the folders and hit properities, it
>> > > shows only about 47 or so GB. I have enalbed display all hidden files
>> > > and system files. So where the heck did the 10 GB space go ?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > redheart > >
>
> what should I do then ?
>
>
> -- 
> redheart
date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 00:12:32 +0100   author:   DL address@invalid

Re: LOST Disk space for no reason   
Hi, redheart.

This question comes up often.  The answer is usually multi-part; some parts 
are simple, others not.

First, are you sure ALL hidden files are showing?  Can you see hiberfil.sys 
and pagefile.sys?  Each of these will be at least as large as your installed 
RAM and they don't normally appear.  How about your Recycle Bin?  Have you 
emptied it recently?

To see a list of ALL your files in all folders and subfolders, open an 
Administrator:Command Prompt window (right-click on CMD.exe, click Run as 
Administrator and supply the password) and use the good old DOS command Dir 
with a couple of switches:

Dir c:\ /s /a

For a big drive with lots of files, you'll probably have time for a cup of 
coffee as the thousands of files scroll up your screen.  The Dir command 
lists all the files in a Directory - the former name for Folder.  The C:\ 
makes it start in the Root (\) of Drive C:.  The /s switch lists files in 
all subfolders, too.  And the /a switch lists all files, even those with 
Hidden or other attributes set.  In other words, this lists everything on 
Drive C:, subtotaled by folder.

Type Dir /? to see a mini-help file showing all the switches and parameters 
available with the Dir command.  For example, /p will pause the listing 
after every screenful.  Dir /os will list the files by size with the largest 
at the top; dir /o-s will put the smallest at the top.  And, of course, Dir 
"C:\Program Files" will list only those in that folder.  Many other 
variations are possible; just type dir /? and study it for a while.

One factor that affects some users more than others is "slack space".  Since 
the default size of an "allocation unit" or "cluster" is 4 KB, every file 
will use at least that much disk space, even if it is a one-byte file.  And 
every file will waste a portion of its final cluster unless its size is 
evenly divisible by 4 KB.  So 1,000 1-byte files will take 4 MB of disk 
space, even though the contents add up to only 1,000 bytes.  If you have 
only a few large files, this factor is negligible, but if you have many 
small files, the impact can be noticeable.  And the Windows Live Mail 
database, for example, is made up of many small .eml and .nws files.  (NTFS 
uses disk space usage more efficiently for small files, so this is less of a 
problem than for FAT or FAT32 systems.)

I'm sure that doesn't answer all your questions, but it should help you 
explore further.

On a side note, redheart, your message was posted on some forum named 
"NNTP-Posting-Host: vistax64.com", apparently, and forwarded from there to 
the Microsoft public news server, which is the host for this 
microsoft.public.windows.vista.file_management newsgroup.  While forums like 
Vistax64 perform a valuable service in disseminating helpful information, 
the relay to and from the MS server often results in messages that are 
delayed, out of sequence, or just plain lost.  To "cut out the middleman" 
and be connected directly to the Microsoft public news server, which is free 
and does not require you to log in, just click here:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.vista.file_management

That one click will start your news reader, create your news account on the 
MS server, and download the most recent posts for you to read.  Later, you 
can click Tools | Options and customize the interface in many ways to suit 
the way you want to use it.

RC
-- 
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)

"redheart"  wrote in message 
news:c8908bb002ee37850df11486cdbddc9c@nntp-gateway.com...
>
> Hi, I am on Vista 64 SP1 Home Version.
>
> Under Computer, the Local Disk C: shows I have used 57GB of C drive.
>
> But in C Drive, I highlighted all the folders and hit properities, it
> shows only about 47 or so GB. I have enalbed display all hidden files
> and system files. So where the heck did the 10 GB space go ?
>
>
> -- 
> redheart
date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:42:29 -0500   author:   R. C. White

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