I have whined and complained about Vista on this newsgroup -- and want to add a bit of positive perspective. On balance, Vista is stable and runs smoothly on my computer. There are tons of new features, menus and secret moves and compartments to explore. I am constantly discovering sensible "nice touches" to GUI and computer moves. While mastering file / folder permissions is daunting and time consuming, I have put that project on hold until the meds really kick-in. (just kidding) Sometimes you feel like a System-Administrator. Sometimes you feel like a nut ... netlink blue