I would like to completely disable the "Group By" and file grouping in 
Windows Explorer in Vista.    I detest this ill-conceived "feature" .   

I' ve seen articles on how to "reset" the views so they stick and they're 
only temporary solutions as Vista eventually start grouping again..  I'm **S 
I C K** of this so-called feature and it does nothing but hamper my work 
efficiency and lower my productivity.. No I don't want to learn how to use 
it.  I want it turned O F F and to N E V E R return.  

Give me the option to turn this idiot-inspired feature off please!  I'm SICK 
of turning it off. 

God I hate Vista! ...aka Windows ME (squared)..    

Bryan

"Bryan"  wrote in message 
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>I would like to completely disable the "Group By" and file grouping in
> Windows Explorer in Vista.    I detest this ill-conceived "feature" .

Why do you "detest" this "ill-conceived" feature? Many people find it a 
considerable enhancement from previous versions....

Bryan;59715 Wrote: 
> I would like to completely disable the "Group By" and file grouping in
> Windows Explorer in Vista.    I detest this ill-conceived "feature" .
> 
> I' ve seen articles on how to "reset" the views so they stick and
> they're
> only temporary solutions as Vista eventually start grouping again.. 
> I'm **S
> I C K** of this so-called feature and it does nothing but hamper my
> work
> efficiency and lower my productivity.. No I don't want to learn how to
> use
> it.  I want it turned O F F and to N E V E R return.
> 
> Give me the option to turn this idiot-inspired feature off please!  I'm
> SICK
> of turning it off.
> 
> God I hate Vista! ...aka Windows ME (squared)..
> 
> BryanRelax, take a few deep breaths. Once done follow this:

Right click in a folder.
Group By -> None.
Press Alt.
Choose Tools from the bar that appears below the navigation bar.
So it's Tools -> Folder Options -> View -> Apply to all folders.

Should do the trick.

PS: You don't like the grouping feature, for me it's one of the most
beautiful thing added to the OS.


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>
> Bryan;59715 Wrote:
>> I would like to completely disable the "Group By" and file grouping in
>> Windows Explorer in Vista.    I detest this ill-conceived "feature" .
>>
>> I' ve seen articles on how to "reset" the views so they stick and
>> they're
>> only temporary solutions as Vista eventually start grouping again..
>> I'm **S
>> I C K** of this so-called feature and it does nothing but hamper my
>> work
>> efficiency and lower my productivity.. No I don't want to learn how to
>> use
>> it.  I want it turned O F F and to N E V E R return.
>>
>> Give me the option to turn this idiot-inspired feature off please!  I'm
>> SICK
>> of turning it off.
>>
>> God I hate Vista! ...aka Windows ME (squared)..
>>
>> BryanRelax, take a few deep breaths. Once done follow this:
>
> Right click in a folder.
> Group By -> None.
> Press Alt.
> Choose Tools from the bar that appears below the navigation bar.
> So it's Tools -> Folder Options -> View -> Apply to all folders.
>
> Should do the trick.
>
> PS: You don't like the grouping feature, for me it's one of the most
> beautiful thing added to the OS.
>
>
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>
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Grouping is one of the most useful additions to Windows I have found 
recently.  I really missed it when I did a third of a year stint with Ubuntu 
and Nautilus.  Glad to be back with Vista. I tend to group by file type most 
often, but various other groupings are very helpful.

Have a grand day.

Grouping was created for people who aren't organized. For those of us who are 
organized this makes it harder to find files and slows us down.   For every 
one of you who claim it to be the most useful feature there are 10 like 
myself hate it.  I can scan a list of files for what I want faster than I can 
sort though which friggin group it's in..  For those of you who ask why I 
destest it - Obviously you didn't read my post where I state clearly that it 
hampers my efficency and lowers my productivity.  I can find the file I need 
MUCH quicker in an list of details than with this grouped view with all those 
headers and excessive white space.   Grouping breaks up the list and in 
folders with few files in it there tends to be more text for groups and white 
space displayed than is used for the files themselves..    

The main problem with it is that it won't stay turned off..   Linux may not 
be the solution indeed but Apple could very well be and this ill-conceived 
feature that's been imposed upon everyone with an off switch that was made in 
China or India is on the top of a list of 18 reasons I've complied (to date) 
to scrap the windows platform and switch to a Mac. 

Like I said..  Vista is ME - Marketing Edition (squared)..  This is the O/S 
that Microsoft Marketing always wanted..  It's not my imagination that 
millions worldwide are avoiding it due to it's repuation for poor 
performance, unpredictable behavior, lower productivity, annoying 
features/functionality, and contains nothing compelling enough to invest the 
very significant resources into switching.  It's a stop-gap product that's as 
big of a mistake as the original ME. 

Vista lowers productivity, and does not increase it as the massive marketing 
machine likes to claim.   There are good reasons that people are avoiding it 
and this is one of them. 



"Gordon" wrote:

> "Bryan"  wrote in message 
> news:705293D8-43EC-4AA5-B943-7514AD3685DF@microsoft.com...
> >I would like to completely disable the "Group By" and file grouping in
> > Windows Explorer in Vista.    I detest this ill-conceived "feature" .
> 
> Why do you "detest" this "ill-conceived" feature? Many people find it a 
> considerable enhancement from previous versions....
> 
> 
>

I've done that a billion times..  It doesn't stick.  This is a widespread 
problem that's been reported enough to warrant some serious attention to 
fixing it.. Yet it remains broken.. 


"iMav" wrote:

> 
> Bryan;59715 Wrote: 
> > I would like to completely disable the "Group By" and file grouping in
> > Windows Explorer in Vista.    I detest this ill-conceived "feature" .
> > 
> > I' ve seen articles on how to "reset" the views so they stick and
> > they're
> > only temporary solutions as Vista eventually start grouping again.. 
> > I'm **S
> > I C K** of this so-called feature and it does nothing but hamper my
> > work
> > efficiency and lower my productivity.. No I don't want to learn how to
> > use
> > it.  I want it turned O F F and to N E V E R return.
> > 
> > Give me the option to turn this idiot-inspired feature off please!  I'm
> > SICK
> > of turning it off.
> > 
> > God I hate Vista! ...aka Windows ME (squared)..
> > 
> > BryanRelax, take a few deep breaths. Once done follow this:
> 
> Right click in a folder.
> Group By -> None.
> Press Alt.
> Choose Tools from the bar that appears below the navigation bar.
> So it's Tools -> Folder Options -> View -> Apply to all folders.
> 
> Should do the trick.
> 
> PS: You don't like the grouping feature, for me it's one of the most
> beautiful thing added to the OS.
> 
> 
> -- 
> iMav
> 
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>

For those of you who love this feature, please don't pollute my thread with 
proclamations of love for this feature.  I'm looking for a serious solution 
to permanently turning it off, other than the "Apply to all folders" that 
doesn't work.  If you don't have a solution please refrain from responding.. 

Thanks!

"Bryan" wrote:

> I would like to completely disable the "Group By" and file grouping in 
> Windows Explorer in Vista.    I detest this ill-conceived "feature" .   
> 
> I' ve seen articles on how to "reset" the views so they stick and they're 
> only temporary solutions as Vista eventually start grouping again..  I'm **S 
> I C K** of this so-called feature and it does nothing but hamper my work 
> efficiency and lower my productivity.. No I don't want to learn how to use 
> it.  I want it turned O F F and to N E V E R return.  
> 
> Give me the option to turn this idiot-inspired feature off please!  I'm SICK 
> of turning it off. 
> 
> God I hate Vista! ...aka Windows ME (squared)..    
> 
> Bryan 
> 
>

"Bryan"  wrote in message 
news:F1B0E36F-ACC1-4332-9C43-2D30E24B01CC@microsoft.com...
> Grouping was created for people who aren't organized. For those of us who 
> are
> organized this makes it harder to find files and slows us down.   For 
> every
> one of you who claim it to be the most useful feature there are 10 like
> myself hate it.  I can scan a list of files for what I want faster than I 
> can
> sort though which friggin group it's in..  For those of you who ask why I
> destest it - Obviously you didn't read my post where I state clearly that 
> it
> hampers my efficency and lowers my productivity.  I can find the file I 
> need
> MUCH quicker in an list of details than with this grouped view with all 
> those
> headers and excessive white space.   Grouping breaks up the list and in
> folders with few files in it there tends to be more text for groups and 
> white
> space displayed than is used for the files themselves..
>
> The main problem with it is that it won't stay turned off..   Linux may 
> not
> be the solution indeed but Apple could very well be and this ill-conceived
> feature that's been imposed upon everyone with an off switch that was made 
> in
> China or India is on the top of a list of 18 reasons I've complied (to 
> date)
> to scrap the windows platform and switch to a Mac.
>
> Like I said..  Vista is ME - Marketing Edition (squared)..  This is the 
> O/S
> that Microsoft Marketing always wanted..  It's not my imagination that
> millions worldwide are avoiding it due to it's repuation for poor
> performance, unpredictable behavior, lower productivity, annoying
> features/functionality, and contains nothing compelling enough to invest 
> the
> very significant resources into switching.  It's a stop-gap product that's 
> as
> big of a mistake as the original ME.
>
> Vista lowers productivity, and does not increase it as the massive 
> marketing
> machine likes to claim.   There are good reasons that people are avoiding 
> it
> and this is one of them.
>
>
>
> "Gordon" wrote:
>
>> "Bryan"  wrote in message
>> news:705293D8-43EC-4AA5-B943-7514AD3685DF@microsoft.com...
>> >I would like to completely disable the "Group By" and file grouping in
>> > Windows Explorer in Vista.    I detest this ill-conceived "feature" .
>>
>> Why do you "detest" this "ill-conceived" feature? Many people find it a
>> considerable enhancement from previous versions....
>>
>>
>>
As is said, facts are facts. One fact is that you know nothing at all about 
my organization or lack of it, and your opening statement is the beginning 
of a long rambling rationalization. Unlike facts, rationalizations are 
whatever you want them to be. You also make the mistake of moving from your 
experience which is what it is to a generalization that speaks for all users 
which you then disparage. It's broken logic.

Have a good day.

On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 09:00:04 -0700, Bryan
 wrote:

>For those of you who love this feature, please don't pollute my thread with 
>proclamations of love for this feature.  I'm looking for a serious solution 
>to permanently turning it off, other than the "Apply to all folders" that 
>doesn't work.  If you don't have a solution please refrain from responding.. 

Yes sir.  Whatever you say sir.  It's your thread and you da boss,
sir.

Bozo

"Bryan"  wrote in message 
news:EA645CFF-A354-40F2-AD45-AE6E0B96957D@microsoft.com...
> For those of you who love this feature, please don't pollute my thread 
> with
> proclamations of love for this feature.  I'm looking for a serious 
> solution
> to permanently turning it off, other than the "Apply to all folders" that
> doesn't work.  If you don't have a solution please refrain from 
> responding..
>

<sigh> JUST DON'T TURN IT ON...........DON'T USE IT if it bothers you that 
much. I don't use it and it doesn't appear.....AT ALL......

The prolem is Vista turns it on at random. I also never wan't to use this 
feature, but an off switch is nowhere to be found, or doesn't work.

"Gordon" wrote:

> "Bryan"  wrote in message 
> news:EA645CFF-A354-40F2-AD45-AE6E0B96957D@microsoft.com...
> > For those of you who love this feature, please don't pollute my thread 
> > with
> > proclamations of love for this feature.  I'm looking for a serious 
> > solution
> > to permanently turning it off, other than the "Apply to all folders" that
> > doesn't work.  If you don't have a solution please refrain from 
> > responding..
> >
> 
> <sigh> JUST DON'T TURN IT ON...........DON'T USE IT if it bothers you that 
> much. I don't use it and it doesn't appear.....AT ALL...... 
> 
>

I, too, hate grouping and seem unable to kill it. I think Microsoft Update 
may be trashing my laborious saving of my preferred template to each of the 
so called types of explorer windows (document, pictures, etc.) Like Bryan, I 
use my  computer to work, not play: not edit video, not create multimedia 
experiences, but WORK. I wish Vista would just let me work. If you do find a 
permanent across the board way to kill grouping, please share it here.


"VanZea" wrote:

> The prolem is Vista turns it on at random. I also never wan't to use this 
> feature, but an off switch is nowhere to be found, or doesn't work.
> 
> "Gordon" wrote:
> 
> > "Bryan"  wrote in message 
> > news:EA645CFF-A354-40F2-AD45-AE6E0B96957D@microsoft.com...
> > > For those of you who love this feature, please don't pollute my thread 
> > > with
> > > proclamations of love for this feature.  I'm looking for a serious 
> > > solution
> > > to permanently turning it off, other than the "Apply to all folders" that
> > > doesn't work.  If you don't have a solution please refrain from 
> > > responding..
> > >
> > 
> > <sigh> JUST DON'T TURN IT ON...........DON'T USE IT if it bothers you that 
> > much. I don't use it and it doesn't appear.....AT ALL...... 
> > 
> >

I know of no way to stabilize Vista Folder Properties, or those of any other 
version of Windows since 3.11.  But you can delete the "type" column in the 
windows you are concerned with, and then it will no longer group on type. 
Good luck.

You could make this the default for all folders, but I can't promise it will 
stick.


"catlovingdoc"  wrote in message 
news:06D09C42-66E9-46D5-9FF3-4CCCFE047E2A@microsoft.com...
> I, too, hate grouping and seem unable to kill it. I think Microsoft Update
> may be trashing my laborious saving of my preferred template to each of 
> the
> so called types of explorer windows (document, pictures, etc.) Like Bryan, 
> I
> use my  computer to work, not play: not edit video, not create multimedia
> experiences, but WORK. I wish Vista would just let me work. If you do find 
> a
> permanent across the board way to kill grouping, please share it here.
>
>
> "VanZea" wrote:
>
>> The prolem is Vista turns it on at random. I also never wan't to use this
>> feature, but an off switch is nowhere to be found, or doesn't work.
>>
>> "Gordon" wrote:
>>
>> > "Bryan"  wrote in message
>> > news:EA645CFF-A354-40F2-AD45-AE6E0B96957D@microsoft.com...
>> > > For those of you who love this feature, please don't pollute my 
>> > > thread
>> > > with
>> > > proclamations of love for this feature.  I'm looking for a serious
>> > > solution
>> > > to permanently turning it off, other than the "Apply to all folders" 
>> > > that
>> > > doesn't work.  If you don't have a solution please refrain from
>> > > responding..
>> > >
>> >
>> > <sigh> JUST DON'T TURN IT ON...........DON'T USE IT if it bothers you 
>> > that
>> > much. I don't use it and it doesn't appear.....AT ALL......
>> >
>> >