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date: Mon, 26 May 2008 10:26:32 +0300,    group: microsoft.public.opsmgr.sp1        back       


OpsMgr SP2 when?   
When sp2 is expected to be released?
I'm especcially interested in GUI performance.

Are there any plans to get GUI performance at least as it was in MOM 2005?
Current situaion with GUI perfirmance is extremle intolerable and more than 
can be tolerated.
:(
date: Mon, 26 May 2008 10:26:32 +0300   author:   PaulD

Re: OpsMgr SP2 when?   
Hi,

I think there's still a long long time to wait as our company is still
raising a lot of bug to Microsoft and they promise will be fixed in
SP2.

Regards,
Steven

On 5$B7n(B26$BF|(B, $B2<8a(B3$B;~(B26$BJ,(B, "PaulD"  wrote:
> When sp2 is expected to be released?
> I'm especcially interested in GUI performance.
>
> Are there any plans to get GUI performance at least as it was in MOM 2005?
> Current situaion with GUI perfirmance is extremle intolerable and more than
> can be tolerated.
> :(
date: Mon, 26 May 2008 00:57:15 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Steven Yeung

Re: OpsMgr SP2 when?   
PaulD,
Can you describe the GUI performance issues you are seeing?  Please include 
the View Name (Alert, State, Diagram, etc) and how many items you are seeing 
in the view.  Also, can you describe what operation / action you are 
performing at the time.  IE Does it take a long time to load the view, or is 
it interacting (scrolling, resolving, opening Health Explorer, etc) with the 
view that's the issue.

Any information you can share with me on this will give me some guidance on 
what areas to try to focus on for SP2.

-- 
Michael Pearson
-------------------------
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Use of included script samples are subject to the terms specified at 
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-------------------------

"PaulD"  wrote in message 
news:%23J0BUHwvIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> When sp2 is expected to be released?
> I'm especcially interested in GUI performance.
>
> Are there any plans to get GUI performance at least as it was in MOM 2005?
> Current situaion with GUI perfirmance is extremle intolerable and more 
> than can be tolerated.
> :(
>
date: Wed, 28 May 2008 20:23:49 -0700   author:   Michael Pearson [MSFT]

Re: OpsMgr SP2 when?   
I have 116 web application.
RMS>ops console>authoring>monitors
HealthService.exe  is constantly eating 25% on 4 CPUs
Now Authoring>web applications>edit any app>Apply

RMS 4xCPU=100% for MS.Mom.Sdk.ServiceHost.exe, since now no one can work 
with OpsMgr console till changes are saved.
As soon as changes are save CPU load 25% for some time and suddenly  4xCPU 
load = 100 for  MS.Mom.ConfigServiceHost.exe for about 10 minues. Again no 
one can work with OpsMgr console.

"Michael Pearson [MSFT]"  wrote in message 
news:2AF741E4-7681-4A2F-A245-5C05CEF61EE9@microsoft.com...
> PaulD,
> Can you describe the GUI performance issues you are seeing?  Please 
> include the View Name (Alert, State, Diagram, etc) and how many items you 
> are seeing in the view.  Also, can you describe what operation / action 
> you are performing at the time.  IE Does it take a long time to load the 
> view, or is it interacting (scrolling, resolving, opening Health Explorer, 
> etc) with the view that's the issue.
>
> Any information you can share with me on this will give me some guidance 
> on what areas to try to focus on for SP2.
>
> -- 
> Michael Pearson
> -------------------------
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no 
> rights.
> Use of included script samples are subject to the terms specified at 
> http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
> -------------------------
>
> "PaulD"  wrote in message 
> news:%23J0BUHwvIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> When sp2 is expected to be released?
>> I'm especcially interested in GUI performance.
>>
>> Are there any plans to get GUI performance at least as it was in MOM 
>> 2005?
>> Current situaion with GUI perfirmance is extremle intolerable and more 
>> than can be tolerated.
>> :(
>>
>
date: Fri, 30 May 2008 15:33:57 +0300   author:   PaulD

Re: OpsMgr SP2 when?   
PaulD,
We do know that we have some performance issues around Web Application 
Monitoring.  We are looking at what we can do in SP2 to help address some of 
those issues both from the monitoring side of things and from the UI side.

I've got a a few questions about how you've got this setup.  I think there's 
some things we can do to make the experience better for you, depending on 
how things are setup currently.

1.  Do you have all 116 web applications set to the same Watcher node, and 
that Watcher Node is the RMS in this case?  I think this is one of the root 
causes for your really high HealthService.exe CPU usage on the RMS. 
Ideally, you want several watcher nodes in this case, each monitoring 20-50 
websites each (depending on the amount of things you are collecting for each 
site).

2.  What Management Pack are you saving these Web Applications to?  I really 
suggest NOT storing it into the Default Management Pack.  Create one or more 
Management Packs to store these Web Applications in.  That should make 
saving and recomputing the configuration (ConfigService.exe) take less time 
and resources.

3.  When you configure these Web Applications, so you have one Web 
Application in Ops Console-->Authoring Space--> Management Pack Templates--> 
Web Application, with that one web application having 116 Web Requests?  Or, 
when you navigate tot he Web Application list in the Console, do you see a 
list of 116 items?  Feel free to post or email me a screenshot of what you 
are seeing to make things easier to understand.  Just remove online. from my 
email address michpear@online.microsoft.com

4.  What's the polling interval?  Is it the default of 2 minutes?  The 
higher the interval, the more data that we'll have to collect, and the 
higher the load on the HealthService.exe

Thanks for the feedback on this.  I hope we can work towards a better 
Operations Manager user experience for you!
Have a great weekend!

-- 
Michael Pearson
-------------------------
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Use of included script samples are subject to the terms specified at 
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
-------------------------

"PaulD"  wrote in message 
news:OuO4wFlwIHA.1236@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>I have 116 web application.
> RMS>ops console>authoring>monitors
> HealthService.exe  is constantly eating 25% on 4 CPUs
> Now Authoring>web applications>edit any app>Apply
>
> RMS 4xCPU=100% for MS.Mom.Sdk.ServiceHost.exe, since now no one can work 
> with OpsMgr console till changes are saved.
> As soon as changes are save CPU load 25% for some time and suddenly  4xCPU 
> load = 100 for  MS.Mom.ConfigServiceHost.exe for about 10 minues. Again no 
> one can work with OpsMgr console.
>
> "Michael Pearson [MSFT]"  wrote in message 
> news:2AF741E4-7681-4A2F-A245-5C05CEF61EE9@microsoft.com...
>> PaulD,
>> Can you describe the GUI performance issues you are seeing?  Please 
>> include the View Name (Alert, State, Diagram, etc) and how many items you 
>> are seeing in the view.  Also, can you describe what operation / action 
>> you are performing at the time.  IE Does it take a long time to load the 
>> view, or is it interacting (scrolling, resolving, opening Health 
>> Explorer, etc) with the view that's the issue.
>>
>> Any information you can share with me on this will give me some guidance 
>> on what areas to try to focus on for SP2.
>>
>> -- 
>> Michael Pearson
>> -------------------------
>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no 
>> rights.
>> Use of included script samples are subject to the terms specified at 
>> http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
>> -------------------------
>>
>> "PaulD"  wrote in message 
>> news:%23J0BUHwvIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> When sp2 is expected to be released?
>>> I'm especcially interested in GUI performance.
>>>
>>> Are there any plans to get GUI performance at least as it was in MOM 
>>> 2005?
>>> Current situaion with GUI perfirmance is extremle intolerable and more 
>>> than can be tolerated.
>>> :(
>>>
>>
>
>
date: Fri, 30 May 2008 18:59:39 -0700   author:   Michael Pearson [MSFT]

RE: OpsMgr SP2 when?   
Hello Paul!

Maybe this blog entry can help - if you didn't notice before:
http://blogs.technet.com/smsandmom/archive/2008/07/17/opsmgr-2007-troubleshooting-console-performance-in-large-environments.aspx

Cheers,
Patrick

"PaulD" wrote:

> When sp2 is expected to be released?
> I'm especcially interested in GUI performance.
> 
> Are there any plans to get GUI performance at least as it was in MOM 2005?
> Current situaion with GUI perfirmance is extremle intolerable and more than 
> can be tolerated.
> :( 
> 
> 
>
date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 06:58:01 -0700   author:   Patrick

Re: OpsMgr SP2 when?   
this article does not apply for me.
SQL server is on RAID 10 on 16 spindles. OpsMgrDB  less then 5 GB.

I tried to capture SQL queries via SQL Server Profiles during CPU spikes as 
described in intial mail. And now I can say,
all SQL queries are carried out with light speed, bottleneck is in console 
code.

"Patrick"  wrote in message 
news:9E4A9FC2-0B6D-42A3-9E64-D3EAC428F90C@microsoft.com...
> Hello Paul!
>
> Maybe this blog entry can help - if you didn't notice before:
> http://blogs.technet.com/smsandmom/archive/2008/07/17/opsmgr-2007-troubleshooting-console-performance-in-large-environments.aspx
>
> Cheers,
> Patrick
>
> "PaulD" wrote:
>
>> When sp2 is expected to be released?
>> I'm especcially interested in GUI performance.
>>
>> Are there any plans to get GUI performance at least as it was in MOM 
>> 2005?
>> Current situaion with GUI perfirmance is extremle intolerable and more 
>> than
>> can be tolerated.
>> :(
>>
>>
>>
date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:27:23 +0300   author:   PaulD

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