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date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 20:20:54 -0700 (PDT),    group: microsoft.public.opsmgr.sp1        back       


How should I set the threshold for the monitors in the Windows Service Template   
Hi,

In Windows Service Template, there are some monitors for monitoring
overall Service Performance Health.

However, I don't know how should I override the Unit Monitors.

When I override a monitor, say "Process Time", the only numbers I can
find are "Inner Sensitivity" and "Outer Sensitivity".

How may I set the monitor so that it will alarm only when the value is
larger than say 20%?

What the sensitivities are?

Thank you.

Regards,
Steven
date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 20:20:54 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Steven Yeung

Re: How should I set the threshold for the monitors in the Windows Service Template   
Hi Steven,

Please take a look at this webpage http://ops-mgr.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!3D3B8489FCAA9B51!183.entry

-- 
Anders Bengtsson
Microsoft MVP -  Operations Manager
http://www.contoso.se



SY> Hi,
SY> 
SY> In Windows Service Template, there are some monitors for monitoring
SY> overall Service Performance Health.
SY> 
SY> However, I don't know how should I override the Unit Monitors.
SY> 
SY> When I override a monitor, say "Process Time", the only numbers I
SY> can find are "Inner Sensitivity" and "Outer Sensitivity".
SY> 
SY> How may I set the monitor so that it will alarm only when the value
SY> is larger than say 20%?
SY> 
SY> What the sensitivities are?
SY> 
SY> Thank you.
SY> 
SY> Regards,
SY> Steven
date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 05:44:53 +0000 (UTC)   author:   Anders Bengtsson [MVP]

Re: How should I set the threshold for the monitors in the Windows   
Why is everybody pointing to that blog to that tells you to changes some 
treshholds without explanation.

My idea is to shut down the SCOM server, this is the only why to get 
completely rid of all your alerts.

Serious now: everytime you see problems about treshholds, you find the 2.81 
and 3.31

Are these not the values of the buggy AD managment pack that is now replaced 
by a new version?

My idea is that the bug with the thousand seperator and different regional 
settings is part of a lot managment packs.

MS, please update all the managment packs so after more than a year and 
after a SP OpsMgr can leave the early beta stage.

"Anders Bengtsson [MVP]" wrote:

> Hi Steven,
> 
> Please take a look at this webpage http://ops-mgr.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!3D3B8489FCAA9B51!183.entry
> 
> -- 
> Anders Bengtsson
> Microsoft MVP -  Operations Manager
> http://www.contoso.se
> 
> 
> 
> SY> Hi,
> SY> 
> SY> In Windows Service Template, there are some monitors for monitoring
> SY> overall Service Performance Health.
> SY> 
> SY> However, I don't know how should I override the Unit Monitors.
> SY> 
> SY> When I override a monitor, say "Process Time", the only numbers I
> SY> can find are "Inner Sensitivity" and "Outer Sensitivity".
> SY> 
> SY> How may I set the monitor so that it will alarm only when the value
> SY> is larger than say 20%?
> SY> 
> SY> What the sensitivities are?
> SY> 
> SY> Thank you.
> SY> 
> SY> Regards,
> SY> Steven
> 
> 
>
date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 00:44:00 -0700   author:   Wokkeltje

Re: How should I set the threshold for the monitors in the Windows   
2.81 and 3.31 are simply a bit too tight of a baseline for *some* types of 
perf counters... especially a counter where "normal" is "zero".  These need 
to be tweaked... or disabled and then replaced with a static threshold 
monitor.

When you create service templates, default self-tuning thresholds are used 
because we don't know what is a good handle count or thread count, or what 
is normal... if you don't like the default ones, adjust them, or disabled 
them and go to a static threshold monitor.

http://blogs.technet.com/kevinholman/archive/2008/03/19/self-tuning-thresholds-love-and-hate.aspx




"Wokkeltje"  wrote in message 
news:56E7B29B-D02D-4D74-8740-AE217798C697@microsoft.com...
> Why is everybody pointing to that blog to that tells you to changes some
> treshholds without explanation.
>
> My idea is to shut down the SCOM server, this is the only why to get
> completely rid of all your alerts.
>
> Serious now: everytime you see problems about treshholds, you find the 
> 2.81
> and 3.31
>
> Are these not the values of the buggy AD managment pack that is now 
> replaced
> by a new version?
>
> My idea is that the bug with the thousand seperator and different regional
> settings is part of a lot managment packs.
>
> MS, please update all the managment packs so after more than a year and
> after a SP OpsMgr can leave the early beta stage.
>
> "Anders Bengtsson [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Hi Steven,
>>
>> Please take a look at this webpage 
>> http://ops-mgr.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!3D3B8489FCAA9B51!183.entry
>>
>> -- 
>> Anders Bengtsson
>> Microsoft MVP -  Operations Manager
>> http://www.contoso.se
>>
>>
>>
>> SY> Hi,
>> SY>
>> SY> In Windows Service Template, there are some monitors for monitoring
>> SY> overall Service Performance Health.
>> SY>
>> SY> However, I don't know how should I override the Unit Monitors.
>> SY>
>> SY> When I override a monitor, say "Process Time", the only numbers I
>> SY> can find are "Inner Sensitivity" and "Outer Sensitivity".
>> SY>
>> SY> How may I set the monitor so that it will alarm only when the value
>> SY> is larger than say 20%?
>> SY>
>> SY> What the sensitivities are?
>> SY>
>> SY> Thank you.
>> SY>
>> SY> Regards,
>> SY> Steven
>>
>>
>>
date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 03:51:12 -0500   author:   Kevin Holman

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