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date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 11:53:26 -0700,
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SAPI - is this the place?
I want to ask questions about how to use SAPI in VC++ 2005. Is this the
correct newsgroup? And if so, is there a better place, since it looks like
nobody is monitoring this newsgroup, since there hasn't been a post in about
a week.
So, consider this a 'ping'. If it takes too long to get answers here, I
might need an alternative.
Is there some TUTORIAL on how to use SAPI somewhere? MSDN describes the
various parts of it, but not how to use it. Analogously, if I gave you a
manual describing every part of a car in detail and what it was used for,
you still wouldn't know how to drive or build a car! MSDN is a good
reference for those who ALREADY KNOW how to use SAPI, it's not very good
when trying to figure out how to use it for the FIRST TIME.
The only book on the subject I can find I bought, but it was written 11
YEARS ago. So probably not much help. Doesn't MS have book in the MS Press
line about SAPI that is contemporary?
Where do people go to learn how to implement SAPI into their VC++ programs?
A code sample would be nice (none in MSDN, not even many code snippets).
This is a powerful feature, and I'm sure MS put a lot of work into making it
available. But do they not give any tutorial on using it because they want
to keep it for use in only their applications? Seems to me those who tested
SAPI must have written TEST code, why not post (a reduced heavily commented
version of ) that?
HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 11:53:26 -0700
author: Peter Oliphant
Re: SAPI - is this the place?
I assume you are talking about ISAPI.
The place to find ISAPI samples is not on MSDN but in the SDK.
Specifically, the Platform SDK:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=A55B6B43-E24F-4EA3-A93E-40C0EC4F68E5&displaylang=en
I'm not certain why you assume Microsoft's lack of advertisement about
ISAPI implies nefarious intentions and self-advantage. Do you accuse
Coca Cola of notoriety for keeping the Formula a Trade Secret?
Maybe it's not well advertised because there's something else that is
better and more suited for the general developer population?
//David
http://w3-4u.blogspot.com
http://blogs.msdn.com/David.Wang
//
On Sep 19, 11:53 am, "Peter Oliphant"
wrote:
> I want to ask questions about how to use SAPI in VC 2005. Is this the
> correct newsgroup? And if so, is there a better place, since it looks like
> nobody is monitoring this newsgroup, since there hasn't been a post in about
> a week.
>
> So, consider this a 'ping'. If it takes too long to get answers here, I
> might need an alternative.
>
> Is there some TUTORIAL on how to use SAPI somewhere? MSDN describes the
> various parts of it, but not how to use it. Analogously, if I gave you a
> manual describing every part of a car in detail and what it was used for,
> you still wouldn't know how to drive or build a car! MSDN is a good
> reference for those who ALREADY KNOW how to use SAPI, it's not very good
> when trying to figure out how to use it for the FIRST TIME.
>
> The only book on the subject I can find I bought, but it was written 11
> YEARS ago. So probably not much help. Doesn't MS have book in the MS Press
> line about SAPI that is contemporary?
>
> Where do people go to learn how to implement SAPI into their VC programs?
> A code sample would be nice (none in MSDN, not even many code snippets).
>
> This is a powerful feature, and I'm sure MS put a lot of work into making it
> available. But do they not give any tutorial on using it because they want
> to keep it for use in only their applications? Seems to me those who tested
> SAPI must have written TEST code, why not post (a reduced heavily commented
> version of ) that?
>
> HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 03:06:45 -0700
author: David Wang
Re: SAPI - is this the place?
I'll check it out, thanks. But I believe that with the introduction of Vista
that there is a new SAPI (to be sure we are talking about the same thing, I
refer to the Speech API for voice recognition and speaking). I'm more
interested in that.
"Maybe it's not well advertised because there's something else that is
better and more suited for the general developer population?"
Love to know about it. Is there one, and could you point me to it? I'd BUY a
3rd party package if its good and can be used with VC++ 2005 Express...
"I'm not certain why you assume Microsoft's lack of advertisement about
ISAPI implies nefarious intentions and self-advantage. Do you accuse
Coca Cola of notoriety for keeping the Formula a Trade Secret?"
My concern has nothing to do with 'advertising'. It has to do with making
the information available in order to implement a feature of the operating
system which is known, in this case speech recognition through SAPI. When a
company puts a feature into their operating system and don't make it easy to
use by not providing either sufficient documentation or by making such
documentation hard to find in order to implement it in programs using their
languages (in this case VC++ 2005), it is reasonable to consider the
possibility that they do this becuase they would prefer to use such a
feature as an advantage in the software they create (since obviously they
have all the information they need in the company since they created it in
the first place), and so increase the 'resistance' one must overcome to
implement the feature if not part of their company.
The Coca-Cola analogy doesn't fit. To 'use' Coca-Cola to its best advantage
I don't need to know its formula. To use VS VC++ 2005 to its best advantage,
I DO need to have WELL WRITTEN documentation and/or examples and/or
tutorials to let me know how to implement them. Coca-Cola protects the
formula since their company is tied entirely up into that formula. Releasing
it could destroy them, it is the intellectual property that defines them,
and must be kept secret. But if MS creates and SELLS a DEVELOPMENT language,
making it hard for people to DEVELOP with it to the best of their abilities
is more analogous to Coca-Cola putting a cap on their bottles to make it
difficult to open and therefore drink...
It USE to be the case, such in the days of Borland, that all language
software came with not only full PRINTED documentation about how to use it,
but language tutotial and reference BOOKS.
Nowadays, when you buy a computer language it costs a LOT more, and you get
ZERO documentation. You must either use MSDN (which can require a
subscription for full access), or buy MS Press books to make up for this
lack of documentation that use to come free. Assuming, of course, such books
even EXIST.
MSDN is written as a reference, NOT as a learning guide. As I like to put
it, I could gve someone a document that described absolutely every part of a
car and exactly what it is used for, but that person would still be lost if
he wanted to know how to build a car or even drive one! Describing the parts
of something in detail does not provide the information on how to USE it.
And didn't MS tst these features using test PROGARMS? Why can't these be
posted as SAMPLE software? Don't you think when a company sells development
tools, ESPECIALLY when they keep changing the 'standard' to fit THEIR needs,
that they have an obligation to provide CLEAR and EASY TO FIND AND ACCESS
information on how to develop with it?
Finally, if you will notice, I left a post in THIS forum over a week ago,
with no response. You responded to my second one. So MS is obviously not
here supporting SAPI. MSDN can't be used for the reasons I mentioned to
learn how to use SAPI, and the most recent book on SAPI was written by a 3rd
party, and is 11 YEARS old. And let's not forget there are over 5 VERSIONS
of SAPI, and they react differently to different operating systems (e.g., XP
vs. Vista). This needs to be sorted out, since writing code for XP is not
the same as for Vista, and the language even changes from version to version
(e.g., managed got turned into /cli, and old code is no longer compatible,
even though the C language was initial designed to be transportable and
machine independent, it isn't even re-usable from one version to the next,
what a joke!).
So, as I've been asking, where do I find information on how to ***USE***
SAPI with VS VC++, particularly with the NEW improvements added when Vista
came out. If MS doesn't come here, HOW am I suppose to get such support as I
have questions, assuming I do find the information?
Basically I'm frustrated becuase SAPI is so poorly supported, and I REALLY
neeed to use it. And I've had this problem throughout time with trying to
use MS languages. Most of the time I post in a newsgroup a question and all
I get is a response that there was a better newsgroup for the question, so
how DARE I post here. MS is so disjoint they are probably in competition
with themselves most of the time. For a laugh, call up the MS Outlook guys
and tell them you have MS Outlook Express, and even though both are MS
products, and for the SAME functionality, they are like two separate
companies, an niether can help you with the other (even if you have been on
hold with customer support for a long time)...
Oh well, I'm done venting (for now)...
[==Peter==]
"David Wang" wrote in message
news:1190282805.255772.5200@k35g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
I assume you are talking about ISAPI.
The place to find ISAPI samples is not on MSDN but in the SDK.
Specifically, the Platform SDK:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=A55B6B43-E24F-4EA3-A93E-40C0EC4F68E5&displaylang=en
I'm not certain why you assume Microsoft's lack of advertisement about
ISAPI implies nefarious intentions and self-advantage. Do you accuse
Coca Cola of notoriety for keeping the Formula a Trade Secret?
Maybe it's not well advertised because there's something else that is
better and more suited for the general developer population?
//David
http://w3-4u.blogspot.com
http://blogs.msdn.com/David.Wang
//
On Sep 19, 11:53 am, "Peter Oliphant"
wrote:
> I want to ask questions about how to use SAPI in VC++ 2005. Is this the
> correct newsgroup? And if so, is there a better place, since it looks like
> nobody is monitoring this newsgroup, since there hasn't been a post in
> about
> a week.
>
> So, consider this a 'ping'. If it takes too long to get answers here, I
> might need an alternative.
>
> Is there some TUTORIAL on how to use SAPI somewhere? MSDN describes the
> various parts of it, but not how to use it. Analogously, if I gave you a
> manual describing every part of a car in detail and what it was used for,
> you still wouldn't know how to drive or build a car! MSDN is a good
> reference for those who ALREADY KNOW how to use SAPI, it's not very good
> when trying to figure out how to use it for the FIRST TIME.
>
> The only book on the subject I can find I bought, but it was written 11
> YEARS ago. So probably not much help. Doesn't MS have book in the MS Press
> line about SAPI that is contemporary?
>
> Where do people go to learn how to implement SAPI into their VC++
> programs?
> A code sample would be nice (none in MSDN, not even many code snippets).
>
> This is a powerful feature, and I'm sure MS put a lot of work into making
> it
> available. But do they not give any tutorial on using it because they want
> to keep it for use in only their applications? Seems to me those who
> tested
> SAPI must have written TEST code, why not post (a reduced heavily
> commented
> version of ) that?
>
> HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 08:36:55 -0700
author: Peter Oliphant
Re: SAPI - is this the place?
This newsgroup has nothing to do with the "Speech API", its for ISAPI
which is the extension API for IIS.
Ian
Peter Oliphant wrote:
> I'll check it out, thanks. But I believe that with the introduction of Vista
> that there is a new SAPI (to be sure we are talking about the same thing, I
> refer to the Speech API for voice recognition and speaking). I'm more
> interested in that.
>
> "Maybe it's not well advertised because there's something else that is
> better and more suited for the general developer population?"
>
> Love to know about it. Is there one, and could you point me to it? I'd BUY a
> 3rd party package if its good and can be used with VC++ 2005 Express...
>
> "I'm not certain why you assume Microsoft's lack of advertisement about
> ISAPI implies nefarious intentions and self-advantage. Do you accuse
> Coca Cola of notoriety for keeping the Formula a Trade Secret?"
>
> My concern has nothing to do with 'advertising'. It has to do with making
> the information available in order to implement a feature of the operating
> system which is known, in this case speech recognition through SAPI. When a
> company puts a feature into their operating system and don't make it easy to
> use by not providing either sufficient documentation or by making such
> documentation hard to find in order to implement it in programs using their
> languages (in this case VC++ 2005), it is reasonable to consider the
> possibility that they do this becuase they would prefer to use such a
> feature as an advantage in the software they create (since obviously they
> have all the information they need in the company since they created it in
> the first place), and so increase the 'resistance' one must overcome to
> implement the feature if not part of their company.
>
> The Coca-Cola analogy doesn't fit. To 'use' Coca-Cola to its best advantage
> I don't need to know its formula. To use VS VC++ 2005 to its best advantage,
> I DO need to have WELL WRITTEN documentation and/or examples and/or
> tutorials to let me know how to implement them. Coca-Cola protects the
> formula since their company is tied entirely up into that formula. Releasing
> it could destroy them, it is the intellectual property that defines them,
> and must be kept secret. But if MS creates and SELLS a DEVELOPMENT language,
> making it hard for people to DEVELOP with it to the best of their abilities
> is more analogous to Coca-Cola putting a cap on their bottles to make it
> difficult to open and therefore drink...
>
> It USE to be the case, such in the days of Borland, that all language
> software came with not only full PRINTED documentation about how to use it,
> but language tutotial and reference BOOKS.
>
> Nowadays, when you buy a computer language it costs a LOT more, and you get
> ZERO documentation. You must either use MSDN (which can require a
> subscription for full access), or buy MS Press books to make up for this
> lack of documentation that use to come free. Assuming, of course, such books
> even EXIST.
>
> MSDN is written as a reference, NOT as a learning guide. As I like to put
> it, I could gve someone a document that described absolutely every part of a
> car and exactly what it is used for, but that person would still be lost if
> he wanted to know how to build a car or even drive one! Describing the parts
> of something in detail does not provide the information on how to USE it.
>
> And didn't MS tst these features using test PROGARMS? Why can't these be
> posted as SAMPLE software? Don't you think when a company sells development
> tools, ESPECIALLY when they keep changing the 'standard' to fit THEIR needs,
> that they have an obligation to provide CLEAR and EASY TO FIND AND ACCESS
> information on how to develop with it?
>
> Finally, if you will notice, I left a post in THIS forum over a week ago,
> with no response. You responded to my second one. So MS is obviously not
> here supporting SAPI. MSDN can't be used for the reasons I mentioned to
> learn how to use SAPI, and the most recent book on SAPI was written by a 3rd
> party, and is 11 YEARS old. And let's not forget there are over 5 VERSIONS
> of SAPI, and they react differently to different operating systems (e.g., XP
> vs. Vista). This needs to be sorted out, since writing code for XP is not
> the same as for Vista, and the language even changes from version to version
> (e.g., managed got turned into /cli, and old code is no longer compatible,
> even though the C language was initial designed to be transportable and
> machine independent, it isn't even re-usable from one version to the next,
> what a joke!).
>
> So, as I've been asking, where do I find information on how to ***USE***
> SAPI with VS VC++, particularly with the NEW improvements added when Vista
> came out. If MS doesn't come here, HOW am I suppose to get such support as I
> have questions, assuming I do find the information?
>
> Basically I'm frustrated becuase SAPI is so poorly supported, and I REALLY
> neeed to use it. And I've had this problem throughout time with trying to
> use MS languages. Most of the time I post in a newsgroup a question and all
> I get is a response that there was a better newsgroup for the question, so
> how DARE I post here. MS is so disjoint they are probably in competition
> with themselves most of the time. For a laugh, call up the MS Outlook guys
> and tell them you have MS Outlook Express, and even though both are MS
> products, and for the SAME functionality, they are like two separate
> companies, an niether can help you with the other (even if you have been on
> hold with customer support for a long time)...
>
> Oh well, I'm done venting (for now)...
>
> [==Peter==]
>
> "David Wang" wrote in message
> news:1190282805.255772.5200@k35g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> I assume you are talking about ISAPI.
>
> The place to find ISAPI samples is not on MSDN but in the SDK.
> Specifically, the Platform SDK:
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=A55B6B43-E24F-4EA3-A93E-40C0EC4F68E5&displaylang=en
>
> I'm not certain why you assume Microsoft's lack of advertisement about
> ISAPI implies nefarious intentions and self-advantage. Do you accuse
> Coca Cola of notoriety for keeping the Formula a Trade Secret?
>
> Maybe it's not well advertised because there's something else that is
> better and more suited for the general developer population?
>
>
> //David
> http://w3-4u.blogspot.com
> http://blogs.msdn.com/David.Wang
> //
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 19, 11:53 am, "Peter Oliphant"
> wrote:
>> I want to ask questions about how to use SAPI in VC++ 2005. Is this the
>> correct newsgroup? And if so, is there a better place, since it looks like
>> nobody is monitoring this newsgroup, since there hasn't been a post in
>> about
>> a week.
>>
>> So, consider this a 'ping'. If it takes too long to get answers here, I
>> might need an alternative.
>>
>> Is there some TUTORIAL on how to use SAPI somewhere? MSDN describes the
>> various parts of it, but not how to use it. Analogously, if I gave you a
>> manual describing every part of a car in detail and what it was used for,
>> you still wouldn't know how to drive or build a car! MSDN is a good
>> reference for those who ALREADY KNOW how to use SAPI, it's not very good
>> when trying to figure out how to use it for the FIRST TIME.
>>
>> The only book on the subject I can find I bought, but it was written 11
>> YEARS ago. So probably not much help. Doesn't MS have book in the MS Press
>> line about SAPI that is contemporary?
>>
>> Where do people go to learn how to implement SAPI into their VC++
>> programs?
>> A code sample would be nice (none in MSDN, not even many code snippets).
>>
>> This is a powerful feature, and I'm sure MS put a lot of work into making
>> it
>> available. But do they not give any tutorial on using it because they want
>> to keep it for use in only their applications? Seems to me those who
>> tested
>> SAPI must have written TEST code, why not post (a reduced heavily
>> commented
>> version of ) that?
>>
>> HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
>
date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 16:47:27 +0100
author: Ian am
Re: SAPI - is this the place?
So is there NO newsgroup for SAPI, the one for people using Visual Studio
.NET for development? Then how is one suppose to ask questions about SAPI,
specifically, how to use it?
God knows if you try to ask a question in anything but the ABSOLUTELY
PERFECT newsgroup all you get is "don't post here' comments.
Does MS support SAPI for use other than for themselves, ala external
developers using there Visual Studio languages such as C++, at all?
Like I've said. MSDN is a great REFERENCE manual, but only if you already
know HOW to use something since it's good for looking up the details. But
for FIRST TIME users of any feature, it is very poor. Analogously, if I gave
you a book detailing every single part of a car, and even described what
each part was used for, could you, using only this knowledge, BUILD a car?
NO, since how to USE something is not the same as just describing its
various parts. I think MS has fundamentally forgotten this when creating
MSDN. And since anyone at their company can talk DIRECTLY to the department
that created any feature of their languages, THEY don't have the same
problems as outside developers. And I think it is INEXCUSABLE that if they
don't provide COMPLETE HOW-TO documentation with their languages (which
Borland use to a lot) that they don't provide TUTORIALS and/or CODE EXAMPLES
for EVERYTHING! I mean, if you want people to use one of your products, you
should provide DETAILED instructions on how to use it, don't you think?
Anyway, once again beating the dead horse, does anyone know if a SAPI
newsgroup exists, and if so, where can I find it and/or what's its name?
Thanks!
[==P==]
"Ian" <xyzzy@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:Op7Y1Is$HHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> This newsgroup has nothing to do with the "Speech API", its for ISAPI
> which is the extension API for IIS.
>
> Ian
>
> Peter Oliphant wrote:
>> I'll check it out, thanks. But I believe that with the introduction of
>> Vista that there is a new SAPI (to be sure we are talking about the same
>> thing, I refer to the Speech API for voice recognition and speaking). I'm
>> more interested in that.
>>
>> "Maybe it's not well advertised because there's something else that is
>> better and more suited for the general developer population?"
>>
>> Love to know about it. Is there one, and could you point me to it? I'd
>> BUY a 3rd party package if its good and can be used with VC++ 2005
>> Express...
>>
>> "I'm not certain why you assume Microsoft's lack of advertisement about
>> ISAPI implies nefarious intentions and self-advantage. Do you accuse
>> Coca Cola of notoriety for keeping the Formula a Trade Secret?"
>>
>> My concern has nothing to do with 'advertising'. It has to do with making
>> the information available in order to implement a feature of the
>> operating system which is known, in this case speech recognition through
>> SAPI. When a company puts a feature into their operating system and don't
>> make it easy to use by not providing either sufficient documentation or
>> by making such documentation hard to find in order to implement it in
>> programs using their languages (in this case VC++ 2005), it is reasonable
>> to consider the possibility that they do this becuase they would prefer
>> to use such a feature as an advantage in the software they create (since
>> obviously they have all the information they need in the company since
>> they created it in the first place), and so increase the 'resistance' one
>> must overcome to implement the feature if not part of their company.
>>
>> The Coca-Cola analogy doesn't fit. To 'use' Coca-Cola to its best
>> advantage I don't need to know its formula. To use VS VC++ 2005 to its
>> best advantage, I DO need to have WELL WRITTEN documentation and/or
>> examples and/or tutorials to let me know how to implement them.
>> Coca-Cola protects the formula since their company is tied entirely up
>> into that formula. Releasing it could destroy them, it is the
>> intellectual property that defines them, and must be kept secret. But if
>> MS creates and SELLS a DEVELOPMENT language, making it hard for people to
>> DEVELOP with it to the best of their abilities is more analogous to
>> Coca-Cola putting a cap on their bottles to make it difficult to open and
>> therefore drink...
>>
>> It USE to be the case, such in the days of Borland, that all language
>> software came with not only full PRINTED documentation about how to use
>> it, but language tutotial and reference BOOKS.
>>
>> Nowadays, when you buy a computer language it costs a LOT more, and you
>> get ZERO documentation. You must either use MSDN (which can require a
>> subscription for full access), or buy MS Press books to make up for this
>> lack of documentation that use to come free. Assuming, of course, such
>> books even EXIST.
>>
>> MSDN is written as a reference, NOT as a learning guide. As I like to put
>> it, I could gve someone a document that described absolutely every part
>> of a car and exactly what it is used for, but that person would still be
>> lost if he wanted to know how to build a car or even drive one!
>> Describing the parts of something in detail does not provide the
>> information on how to USE it.
>>
>> And didn't MS tst these features using test PROGARMS? Why can't these be
>> posted as SAMPLE software? Don't you think when a company sells
>> development tools, ESPECIALLY when they keep changing the 'standard' to
>> fit THEIR needs, that they have an obligation to provide CLEAR and EASY
>> TO FIND AND ACCESS information on how to develop with it?
>>
>> Finally, if you will notice, I left a post in THIS forum over a week ago,
>> with no response. You responded to my second one. So MS is obviously not
>> here supporting SAPI. MSDN can't be used for the reasons I mentioned to
>> learn how to use SAPI, and the most recent book on SAPI was written by a
>> 3rd party, and is 11 YEARS old. And let's not forget there are over 5
>> VERSIONS of SAPI, and they react differently to different operating
>> systems (e.g., XP vs. Vista). This needs to be sorted out, since writing
>> code for XP is not the same as for Vista, and the language even changes
>> from version to version (e.g., managed got turned into /cli, and old code
>> is no longer compatible, even though the C language was initial designed
>> to be transportable and machine independent, it isn't even re-usable from
>> one version to the next, what a joke!).
>>
>> So, as I've been asking, where do I find information on how to ***USE***
>> SAPI with VS VC++, particularly with the NEW improvements added when
>> Vista came out. If MS doesn't come here, HOW am I suppose to get such
>> support as I have questions, assuming I do find the information?
>>
>> Basically I'm frustrated becuase SAPI is so poorly supported, and I
>> REALLY neeed to use it. And I've had this problem throughout time with
>> trying to use MS languages. Most of the time I post in a newsgroup a
>> question and all I get is a response that there was a better newsgroup
>> for the question, so how DARE I post here. MS is so disjoint they are
>> probably in competition with themselves most of the time. For a laugh,
>> call up the MS Outlook guys and tell them you have MS Outlook Express,
>> and even though both are MS products, and for the SAME functionality,
>> they are like two separate companies, an niether can help you with the
>> other (even if you have been on hold with customer support for a long
>> time)...
>>
>> Oh well, I'm done venting (for now)...
>>
>> [==Peter==]
>>
>> "David Wang" wrote in message
>> news:1190282805.255772.5200@k35g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>> I assume you are talking about ISAPI.
>>
>> The place to find ISAPI samples is not on MSDN but in the SDK.
>> Specifically, the Platform SDK:
>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=A55B6B43-E24F-4EA3-A93E-40C0EC4F68E5&displaylang=en
>>
>> I'm not certain why you assume Microsoft's lack of advertisement about
>> ISAPI implies nefarious intentions and self-advantage. Do you accuse
>> Coca Cola of notoriety for keeping the Formula a Trade Secret?
>>
>> Maybe it's not well advertised because there's something else that is
>> better and more suited for the general developer population?
>>
>>
>> //David
>> http://w3-4u.blogspot.com
>> http://blogs.msdn.com/David.Wang
>> //
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 19, 11:53 am, "Peter Oliphant"
>> wrote:
>>> I want to ask questions about how to use SAPI in VC++ 2005. Is this the
>>> correct newsgroup? And if so, is there a better place, since it looks
>>> like
>>> nobody is monitoring this newsgroup, since there hasn't been a post in
>>> about
>>> a week.
>>>
>>> So, consider this a 'ping'. If it takes too long to get answers here, I
>>> might need an alternative.
>>>
>>> Is there some TUTORIAL on how to use SAPI somewhere? MSDN describes the
>>> various parts of it, but not how to use it. Analogously, if I gave you a
>>> manual describing every part of a car in detail and what it was used
>>> for,
>>> you still wouldn't know how to drive or build a car! MSDN is a good
>>> reference for those who ALREADY KNOW how to use SAPI, it's not very good
>>> when trying to figure out how to use it for the FIRST TIME.
>>>
>>> The only book on the subject I can find I bought, but it was written 11
>>> YEARS ago. So probably not much help. Doesn't MS have book in the MS
>>> Press
>>> line about SAPI that is contemporary?
>>>
>>> Where do people go to learn how to implement SAPI into their VC++
>>> programs?
>>> A code sample would be nice (none in MSDN, not even many code snippets).
>>>
>>> This is a powerful feature, and I'm sure MS put a lot of work into
>>> making it
>>> available. But do they not give any tutorial on using it because they
>>> want
>>> to keep it for use in only their applications? Seems to me those who
>>> tested
>>> SAPI must have written TEST code, why not post (a reduced heavily
>>> commented
>>> version of ) that?
>>>
>>> HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 10:42:52 -0700
author: Peter Oliphant
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