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date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 09:09:23 -0700 (PDT),    group: microsoft.public.xml        back       


IE7 Subscribed RSS Feed not showing properly compared to unsubscribed   
Here’s my problem. So I’ve created and XML file for an RSS feed for a
site. I go to the XML page and in IE7 it shows all of the feeds that
I’ve put into the XML file. Now when I “subscribe” to the feed, it
only shows a few of them. For each item, it gets it’s own pubdate and
they are all different and in chronological order (most recent
first).
I also have a lastbuilddate in the main area at the top. It’s updated
about once a week, and each update might have about 7 to 10 entries
at
one time (all with different pubdate).

The only thing I can think of that might be causing it is that when
the feed is updated it takes the latest one for that update time (for
instance lets say I had 7 feed items that I put up a week ago, each
feed item’s pubdate being maybe a minute apart. Then this week I put
up 10, each feed item having a pubdate being a minute or two apart as
well. Maybe when I’ve ‘subscribed’ it is only pulling the latest one
from last week and the latest one from this week.). below is an
example of the coding.


Thanks for any help in advance.


<?xml version="1.0"?>
<rss version="2.0">
   <channel>
      <title>….TITLE…..</title>
      <link>………link……</link>
      <description>….some description……</description>
      <language>en-us</language>
      <lastBuildDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:46:30 GMT</lastBuildDate>


    <item>
         <title>TITLE 1</title>
         <link>………..some link….</link>
         <description>………….some description………….</description>
         <pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:46:30 GMT</pubDate>
      </item>


    <item>
         <title>TITLE 2</title>
         <link>………..some link….</link>
         <description>………….some description………….</description>
         <pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:45:57 GMT</pubDate>
      </item>


    <item>
         <title>TITLE 3</title>
         <link>………..some link….</link>
         <description>………….some description………….</description>
         <pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:45:32 GMT</pubDate>
      </item>


    <item>
         <title>TITLE 4</title>
         <link>………..some link….</link>
         <description>………….some description………….</description>
         <pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
      </item>


    <item>
         <title>TITLE 5</title>
         <link>………..some link….</link>
         <description>………….some description………….</description>
         <pubDate>Thu, 5 Jun 2008 13:48:20 GMT</pubDate>
      </item>


    <item>
         <title>TITLE 6</title>
         <link>………..some link….</link>
         <description>………….some description………….</description>
         <pubDate>Thu, 5 Jun 2008 13:47:28 GMT</pubDate>
      </item>
   </channel>
</rss>
date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 09:09:23 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Jason

Re: IE7 Subscribed RSS Feed not showing properly compared to unsubscribed   
Jason wrote:
> Here’s my problem. So I’ve created and XML file for an RSS feed for a
> site. I go to the XML page and in IE7 it shows all of the feeds that
> I’ve put into the XML file. Now when I “subscribe” to the feed, it
> only shows a few of them. For each item, it gets it’s own pubdate and
> they are all different and in chronological order (most recent
> first).
> I also have a lastbuilddate in the main area at the top. It’s updated
> about once a week, and each update might have about 7 to 10 entries
> at
> one time (all with different pubdate).
> 
> The only thing I can think of that might be causing it is that when
> the feed is updated it takes the latest one for that update time (for
> instance lets say I had 7 feed items that I put up a week ago, each
> feed item’s pubdate being maybe a minute apart. Then this week I put
> up 10, each feed item having a pubdate being a minute or two apart as
> well. Maybe when I’ve ‘subscribed’ it is only pulling the latest one
> from last week and the latest one from this week.). below is an
> example of the coding.

Please post the URL of the site and the of the feed if it is public.
Other than that I can only suggest to try to validate the feed at 
http://www.feedvalidator.org/ and to try whether other feed readers 
display the feed properly the way you intend to.


-- 

	Martin Honnen --- MVP XML
	http://JavaScript.FAQTs.com/
date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:28:28 +0200   author:   Martin Honnen

Re: IE7 Subscribed RSS Feed not showing properly compared to unsubscribed   
On Jun 19, 12:28 pm, Martin Honnen  wrote:
> Jason wrote:
> > Here’s my problem. So I’ve created and XML file for an RSS feed for a
> > site. I go to the XML page and in IE7 it shows all of the feeds that
> > I’ve put into the XML file. Now when I “subscribe” to the feed, it
> > only shows a few of them. For each item, it gets it’s own pubdate and
> > they are all different and in chronological order (most recent
> > first).
> > I also have a lastbuilddate in the main area at the top. It’s updated
> > about once a week, and each update might have about 7 to 10 entries
> > at
> > one time (all with different pubdate).
>
> > The only thing I can think of that might be causing it is that when
> > the feed is updated it takes the latest one for that update time (for
> > instance lets say I had 7 feed items that I put up a week ago, each
> > feed item’s pubdate being maybe a minute apart. Then this week I put
> > up 10, each feed item having a pubdate being a minute or two apart as
> > well. Maybe when I’ve ‘subscribed’ it is only pulling the latest one
> > from last week and the latest one from this week.). below is an
> > example of the coding.
>
> Please post the URL of the site and the of the feed if it is public.
> Other than that I can only suggest to try to validate the feed athttp://www.feedvalidator.org/and to try whether other feed readers
> display the feed properly the way you intend to.
>
> --
>
>         Martin Honnen --- MVP XML
>        http://JavaScript.FAQTs.com/- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Sorry. that would probably help. yes it's public.

MyYahoo, Google Reader, Netvibes all seem to work fine (display all of
the entries)


http://yorkcountyschools.org/RSS/feed.xml
date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:01:24 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Jason

Re: IE7 Subscribed RSS Feed not showing properly compared to unsubscribed   
"Jason"  wrote in message
news:b6f4da22-60a7-483d-a9a0-96309ebbcd12@p39g2000prm.googlegroups.com...

> Jason wrote:
> > Here’s my problem. So I’ve created and XML file for an RSS feed for a
> > site. I go to the XML page and in IE7 it shows all of the feeds that
> > I’ve put into the XML file. Now when I “subscribe” to the feed, it
> > only shows a few of them. For each item, it gets it’s own pubdate and
> > they are all different and in chronological order (most recent
> > first).


http://yorkcountyschools.org/RSS/feed.xml


The problem appears to be IE7's Properties.
E.g. right-click Properties shows:  Keep the most recent items only
is in effect.

The strange thing is that the full list of items is present in the TIF.
E.g. set Work Offline, delete the feed, and then open it again.
You can see all 207 items again then (instead of just the 4 new ones).

So, unless there is some way of changing the above default Property
before "subscribing" deleting the subscription and reopening the XML
may be the only way to see the whole document again...

Hmm... in Internet Options, Content tab, Feed Settings there is an option
    Automatically mark feed as read when reading a feed
Let's see what happens if we uncheck that before subscribing...

Nope.  Feed Properties still says:  Keep the most recent items only

One more possibility there.   Perhaps the option only takes effect in new
instances of the browser?   So, close all IE windows and check with
Task Manager's Processes tab (Ctrl-Shift-Esc) that  iexplore.exe  is not running...
(No change.)

Hmm... (serendipity).   There was another option in that dialog
Turn on Feed Reading View  which I didn't know about...
Turns out it lets us see the XML (with an XML viewer).  Who knew?    ; )
(Right-click View Source normally lets us see the XML source but
just as text in Notepad.)

But now it's clearer that the cause of the symptom is whatever procedure
the link  [Subscribe to this feed]  invokes.   So, is there a way to create an item
in Feeds without going through that procedure?   E.g. then hopefully we
could change such a feed's Properties before its older items were all marked "Read"...

It would almost be worth it to reinstall IE8 to see if it handles this any differently...
(I actually have uninstalled it waiting for the next build.  <eg>)


Good luck

Robert Aldwinckle
---
date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:02:22 -0400   author:   Robert Aldwinckle

Re: IE7 Subscribed RSS Feed not showing properly compared to unsubscribed   
On Jun 19, 6:02 pm, "Robert Aldwinckle"  wrote:
> "Jason"  wrote in message
>
> news:b6f4da22-60a7-483d-a9a0-96309ebbcd12@p39g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Jason wrote:
> > > Here’s my problem. So I’ve created and XML file for an RSS feed for a
> > > site. I go to the XML page and in IE7 it shows all of the feeds that
> > > I’ve put into the XML file. Now when I “subscribe” to the feed, it
> > > only shows a few of them. For each item, it gets it’s own pubdate and
> > > they are all different and in chronological order (most recent
> > > first).
>
> http://yorkcountyschools.org/RSS/feed.xml
>
> The problem appears to be IE7's Properties.
> E.g. right-click Properties shows:  Keep the most recent items only
> is in effect.
>
> The strange thing is that the full list of items is present in the TIF.
> E.g. set Work Offline, delete the feed, and then open it again.
> You can see all 207 items again then (instead of just the 4 new ones).
>
> So, unless there is some way of changing the above default Property
> before "subscribing" deleting the subscription and reopening the XML
> may be the only way to see the whole document again...
>
> Hmm... in Internet Options, Content tab, Feed Settings there is an option
>     Automatically mark feed as read when reading a feed
> Let's see what happens if we uncheck that before subscribing...
>
> Nope.  Feed Properties still says:  Keep the most recent items only
>
> One more possibility there.   Perhaps the option only takes effect in new
> instances of the browser?   So, close all IE windows and check with
> Task Manager's Processes tab (Ctrl-Shift-Esc) that  iexplore.exe  is not running...
> (No change.)
>
> Hmm... (serendipity).   There was another option in that dialog
> Turn on Feed Reading View  which I didn't know about...
> Turns out it lets us see the XML (with an XML viewer).  Who knew?    ; )
> (Right-click View Source normally lets us see the XML source but
> just as text in Notepad.)
>
> But now it's clearer that the cause of the symptom is whatever procedure
> the link  [Subscribe to this feed]  invokes.   So, is there a way to create an item
> in Feeds without going through that procedure?   E.g. then hopefully we
> could change such a feed's Properties before its older items were all marked "Read"...
>
> It would almost be worth it to reinstall IE8 to see if it handles this any differently...
> (I actually have uninstalled it waiting for the next build.  <eg>)
>
> Good luck
>
> Robert Aldwinckle
> ---

I was able to figure it out. Each of the "items" had the same link,
due to the fact that I had to put the landing page for all of them
since it wouldn't accept each individual's own page (didn't seem to
like the links being linked to database dynamic page .asp?=xxxx). Used
the CDATA for the links so it accepted the individual pages. :)
date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 04:17:10 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Jason

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