I'm writing this email, as I don't have any new directions with the
new (and very elusive) MSF exam 70-301. I'm hoping that maybe someone
will lead the way, as I don't think that I'm the only one with this
problem.

Before I'm starting, let me explain that I'm PMP and IT Project+
certified, with more than 10 years experience with PM in the IT world,
and especially in Microsoft technologies. So for me to pursuit the MSF
was the right thing to do but I'm starting to regret dearly about
this step.

I read the entire MSF white papers + the MSF course 1846A, but now
after the second time that I'm failing the exam, I don't have any
ideas what to do next!

I have a long history of studying and passing exams (university and IT
certification), but I never saw exam like this! The reading materials
are not even connected to the questions in the exam with its very
tricky, elusive and unexplained questions!

In the last two time, my score didn't get above 500 (passing score is
700), and I don't know even which questions / directions to ask myself
for maybe attacking once again this elusive exam! It's not that I need
to have 5 more points to pass it. I don't have any direction and it's
very hard to find anything on the net about this exam.

Can someone help and lead some future directions / discussion
regarding this new exam. This will be much appreciated, and not just
for me!!!

Is anyone already pasted this exam?

Guy Grubner

Hi Guy,
I will recommend you to read this page first "Preparation Guide for Exam 
70-301" http://www.microsoft.com/learning/exams/70-301.asp. Then review your 
knowledge using "Skills Being Measured" matrix from the same page. Another 
good resource for this exam is MOC 2710.
If you failed recently maybe you can benefit from this offer "Second Shot 
Offer : February 28-May 31, 2005" 
http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/offers/2ndshot/details.asp.
Good luck,

Cristian Lefter, SQL Server MVP


"Guy Grubner"  wrote in message 
news:d308d26c.0503201648.67117f1b@posting.google.com...
> I'm writing this email, as I don't have any new directions with the
> new (and very elusive) MSF exam 70-301. I'm hoping that maybe someone
> will lead the way, as I don't think that I'm the only one with this
> problem.
>
> Before I'm starting, let me explain that I'm PMP and IT Project+
> certified, with more than 10 years experience with PM in the IT world,
> and especially in Microsoft technologies. So for me to pursuit the MSF
> was the right thing to do. but I'm starting to regret dearly about
> this step..
>
> I read the entire MSF white papers + the MSF course 1846A, but now
> after the second time that I'm failing the exam, I don't have any
> ideas what to do next!
>
> I have a long history of studying and passing exams (university and IT
> certification), but I never saw exam like this! The reading materials
> are not even connected to the questions in the exam with its very
> tricky, elusive and unexplained questions!
>
> In the last two time, my score didn't get above 500 (passing score is
> 700), and I don't know even which questions / directions to ask myself
> for maybe attacking once again this elusive exam! It's not that I need
> to have 5 more points to pass it.. I don't have any direction and it's
> very hard to find anything on the net about this exam.
>
> Can someone help and lead some future directions / discussion
> regarding this new exam. This will be much appreciated, and not just
> for me!!!
>
> Is anyone already pasted this exam?
>
> Guy Grubner

Hi Cristian,

Thanks for your remarks but

1. I already walkthrough also in the 2710A course that covers the MS
exam 70-300, and also before going to any exam, I'm reading very
carefully the Microsoft preparation guide.
2. I'm using already the coupon of the second shot provided by
Microsoft, so the next round for me will be free. But I'll not go
before understanding what is happening with me in this exam.

The issue here is that I'm trying to speak with a person that actually
did the exam and passed it, just to try to understand the Microsoft
way of thinking in this exam. After studying and taking the exam two
times (never happened in my life), I'm still going back to square one,
as I don't know which questions to ask, for getting the right answers
bottom-line: I don't know what to do for third preparation for this
elusive exam

Help is very appreciated! Did you passed this exam?

Guy Grubner



"Cristian Lefter"  wrote in message news:...
> Hi Guy,
> I will recommend you to read this page first "Preparation Guide for Exam 
> 70-301" http://www.microsoft.com/learning/exams/70-301.asp. Then review your 
> knowledge using "Skills Being Measured" matrix from the same page. Another 
> good resource for this exam is MOC 2710.
> If you failed recently maybe you can benefit from this offer "Second Shot 
> Offer : February 28-May 31, 2005" 
> http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/offers/2ndshot/details.asp.
> Good luck,
> 
> Cristian Lefter, SQL Server MVP
> 
> 
> "Guy Grubner"  wrote in message 
> news:d308d26c.0503201648.67117f1b@posting.google.com...
> > I'm writing this email, as I don't have any new directions with the
> > new (and very elusive) MSF exam 70-301. I'm hoping that maybe someone
> > will lead the way, as I don't think that I'm the only one with this
> > problem.
> >
> > Before I'm starting, let me explain that I'm PMP and IT Project+
> > certified, with more than 10 years experience with PM in the IT world,
> > and especially in Microsoft technologies. So for me to pursuit the MSF
> > was the right thing to do. but I'm starting to regret dearly about
> > this step..
> >
> > I read the entire MSF white papers + the MSF course 1846A, but now
> > after the second time that I'm failing the exam, I don't have any
> > ideas what to do next!
> >
> > I have a long history of studying and passing exams (university and IT
> > certification), but I never saw exam like this! The reading materials
> > are not even connected to the questions in the exam with its very
> > tricky, elusive and unexplained questions!
> >
> > In the last two time, my score didn't get above 500 (passing score is
> > 700), and I don't know even which questions / directions to ask myself
> > for maybe attacking once again this elusive exam! It's not that I need
> > to have 5 more points to pass it.. I don't have any direction and it's
> > very hard to find anything on the net about this exam.
> >
> > Can someone help and lead some future directions / discussion
> > regarding this new exam. This will be much appreciated, and not just
> > for me!!!
> >
> > Is anyone already pasted this exam?
> >
> > Guy Grubner

Hi Guy
I sat this exam last week and passed easily.  In my opinion, close study of
Course 1846 coupled with a thorough reading of the MSF 3.0 whitepapers gives
you all the information you need to pass this exam.
The questions require careful reading, and in some ways they could be seen
as reading comprehension tests; those for whom English is a second language
may find some difficulties.
Clear thinking, and a good understanding of the above two resources, are
enough to pass this exam.
Hope this helps

-- 
Ian Thwaites (BIT,MCSD,MCT,MCP)
Senior Technical & Education Consultant
Aspect Education Services
Canberra Branch

"Guy Grubner"  wrote in message
news:d308d26c.0503201648.67117f1b@posting.google.com...
> I'm writing this email, as I don't have any new directions with the
> new (and very elusive) MSF exam 70-301. I'm hoping that maybe someone
> will lead the way, as I don't think that I'm the only one with this
> problem.
>
> Before I'm starting, let me explain that I'm PMP and IT Project+
> certified, with more than 10 years experience with PM in the IT world,
> and especially in Microsoft technologies. So for me to pursuit the MSF
> was the right thing to do. but I'm starting to regret dearly about
> this step..
>
> I read the entire MSF white papers + the MSF course 1846A, but now
> after the second time that I'm failing the exam, I don't have any
> ideas what to do next!
>
> I have a long history of studying and passing exams (university and IT
> certification), but I never saw exam like this! The reading materials
> are not even connected to the questions in the exam with its very
> tricky, elusive and unexplained questions!
>
> In the last two time, my score didn't get above 500 (passing score is
> 700), and I don't know even which questions / directions to ask myself
> for maybe attacking once again this elusive exam! It's not that I need
> to have 5 more points to pass it.. I don't have any direction and it's
> very hard to find anything on the net about this exam.
>
> Can someone help and lead some future directions / discussion
> regarding this new exam. This will be much appreciated, and not just
> for me!!!
>
> Is anyone already pasted this exam?
>
> Guy Grubner

You need to bear in mind that the exam is designed to test 
understanding and application of MSF, not just 
memorisation of what's in the courseware and white 
papers.  

The best preparation for this is to apply MSF on real 
projects and use the techniques described in the 
framework.  A second-best is to attend the 1846 class and 
(hopefully) participate in discussions with other people 
who have applied these and similar approaches.

All of the questions do relate to the use of MSF 
techniques and a practitioner with moderate experience 
should be able to distinguish the correct answers from the 
incorrect ones.  The questions are not deliberately tricky 
or elusive, but, just as in real project situations, you 
need to marshall all the information given to find the 
correct answers.

Hope this helps.

David Preedy

>-----Original Message-----
>Hi Guy
>I sat this exam last week and passed easily.  In my 
opinion, close study of
>Course 1846 coupled with a thorough reading of the MSF 
3.0 whitepapers gives
>you all the information you need to pass this exam.
>The questions require careful reading, and in some ways 
they could be seen
>as reading comprehension tests; those for whom English is 
a second language
>may find some difficulties.
>Clear thinking, and a good understanding of the above two 
resources, are
>enough to pass this exam.
>Hope this helps
>
>-- 
>Ian Thwaites (BIT,MCSD,MCT,MCP)
>Senior Technical & Education Consultant
>Aspect Education Services
>Canberra Branch
>
>"Guy Grubner"  wrote in message
>news:d308d26c.0503201648.67117f1b@posting.google.com...
>> I'm writing this email, as I don't have any new 
directions with the
>> new (and very elusive) MSF exam 70-301. I'm hoping that 
maybe someone
>> will lead the way, as I don't think that I'm the only 
one with this
>> problem.
>>
>> Before I'm starting, let me explain that I'm PMP and IT 
Project+
>> certified, with more than 10 years experience with PM 
in the IT world,
>> and especially in Microsoft technologies. So for me to 
pursuit the MSF
>> was the right thing to do. but I'm starting to regret 
dearly about
>> this step..
>>
>> I read the entire MSF white papers + the MSF course 
1846A, but now
>> after the second time that I'm failing the exam, I 
don't have any
>> ideas what to do next!
>>
>> I have a long history of studying and passing exams 
(university and IT
>> certification), but I never saw exam like this! The 
reading materials
>> are not even connected to the questions in the exam 
with its very
>> tricky, elusive and unexplained questions!
>>
>> In the last two time, my score didn't get above 500 
(passing score is
>> 700), and I don't know even which questions / 
directions to ask myself
>> for maybe attacking once again this elusive exam! It's 
not that I need
>> to have 5 more points to pass it.. I don't have any 
direction and it's
>> very hard to find anything on the net about this exam.
>>
>> Can someone help and lead some future directions / 
discussion
>> regarding this new exam. This will be much appreciated, 
and not just
>> for me!!!
>>
>> Is anyone already pasted this exam?
>>
>> Guy Grubner
>
>
>.
>

Agreed, though finding a team and an organisation that is willing to embrace
MSF can be a challenge.  IMHO working in a non-MSF team, and experiencing
first-hand the problems that MSF addresses can open your eyes to how badly
things have been handled and how much better they could be handled under
MSF.
Just my 2 cents.
"David Preedy"  wrote in message
news:0ca401c53b88$89180150$a401280a@phx.gbl...
> You need to bear in mind that the exam is designed to test
> understanding and application of MSF, not just
> memorisation of what's in the courseware and white
> papers.
>
> The best preparation for this is to apply MSF on real
> projects and use the techniques described in the
> framework.  A second-best is to attend the 1846 class and
> (hopefully) participate in discussions with other people
> who have applied these and similar approaches.
>
> All of the questions do relate to the use of MSF
> techniques and a practitioner with moderate experience
> should be able to distinguish the correct answers from the
> incorrect ones.  The questions are not deliberately tricky
> or elusive, but, just as in real project situations, you
> need to marshall all the information given to find the
> correct answers.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> David Preedy
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Hi Guy
> >I sat this exam last week and passed easily.  In my
> opinion, close study of
> >Course 1846 coupled with a thorough reading of the MSF
> 3.0 whitepapers gives
> >you all the information you need to pass this exam.
> >The questions require careful reading, and in some ways
> they could be seen
> >as reading comprehension tests; those for whom English is
> a second language
> >may find some difficulties.
> >Clear thinking, and a good understanding of the above two
> resources, are
> >enough to pass this exam.
> >Hope this helps
> >
> >-- 
> >Ian Thwaites (BIT,MCSD,MCT,MCP)
> >Senior Technical & Education Consultant
> >Aspect Education Services
> >Canberra Branch
> >
> >"Guy Grubner"  wrote in message
> >news:d308d26c.0503201648.67117f1b@posting.google.com...
> >> I'm writing this email, as I don't have any new
> directions with the
> >> new (and very elusive) MSF exam 70-301. I'm hoping that
> maybe someone
> >> will lead the way, as I don't think that I'm the only
> one with this
> >> problem.
> >>
> >> Before I'm starting, let me explain that I'm PMP and IT
> Project+
> >> certified, with more than 10 years experience with PM
> in the IT world,
> >> and especially in Microsoft technologies. So for me to
> pursuit the MSF
> >> was the right thing to do. but I'm starting to regret
> dearly about
> >> this step..
> >>
> >> I read the entire MSF white papers + the MSF course
> 1846A, but now
> >> after the second time that I'm failing the exam, I
> don't have any
> >> ideas what to do next!
> >>
> >> I have a long history of studying and passing exams
> (university and IT
> >> certification), but I never saw exam like this! The
> reading materials
> >> are not even connected to the questions in the exam
> with its very
> >> tricky, elusive and unexplained questions!
> >>
> >> In the last two time, my score didn't get above 500
> (passing score is
> >> 700), and I don't know even which questions /
> directions to ask myself
> >> for maybe attacking once again this elusive exam! It's
> not that I need
> >> to have 5 more points to pass it.. I don't have any
> direction and it's
> >> very hard to find anything on the net about this exam.
> >>
> >> Can someone help and lead some future directions /
> discussion
> >> regarding this new exam. This will be much appreciated,
> and not just
> >> for me!!!
> >>
> >> Is anyone already pasted this exam?
> >>
> >> Guy Grubner
> >
> >
> >.
> >

In message <0ca401c53b88$89180150$a401280a@phx.gbl>, David Preedy 
 writes
>The best preparation for this is to apply MSF on real projects and use 
>the techniques described in the framework.  A second-best is to attend 
>the 1846 class and (hopefully) participate in discussions with other 
>people who have applied these and similar approaches.

If you just want to pass the exam, I'd argue that attending the 1846 
class is the best way. The exam is just a test that you know MSF as 
written, not as it might be applied for real, or how you might use it. 
I'd agree totally that if you want to learn MSF, being on a project is a 
great way forward - but the exam tests the details of MSF as written, 
not as practiced.

HTH and good luck!


Thomas

-- 
Thomas Lee
(tfl@psp.co.uk)

Exactly the same situation. I successfully passed MCAD & 70-300 exams 
without any troubles.
There wasn't possibility to take the 1846 course, but I've read it inside 
and out, MSF whitepapers too...
Have got a lot of PM practice...
I've scored 680 on exam - average weight of one question is 28, so one 
question was crucial :)
Developing, Stabilizing, Deployment - 100%, Planning, Team Building - Good 
and
Facilitating Risks is below the average...

I realized during comment phase that I missed "budget was accepted" in 
description while I'm calculating
the Exposure and my choice for the highest priority risk was wrong. It was 
already avoided risk :( Stupid mistake...

So, there were some other risk-related questions about legacy application 
and old programmers, upgrade printers and
not completed teams and answers were very debatable, IMHO... I marked and 
remembered them, but I wasn't confident.

Could anybody helps to choose between questionable choices?

"Ian Thwaites"  wrote in message 
news:uZuo55yLFHA.1300@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Hi Guy
> I sat this exam last week and passed easily.  In my opinion, close study 
> of
> Course 1846 coupled with a thorough reading of the MSF 3.0 whitepapers 
> gives
> you all the information you need to pass this exam.
> The questions require careful reading, and in some ways they could be seen
> as reading comprehension tests; those for whom English is a second 
> language
> may find some difficulties.
> Clear thinking, and a good understanding of the above two resources, are
> enough to pass this exam.
> Hope this helps
>
> -- 
> Ian Thwaites (BIT,MCSD,MCT,MCP)
> Senior Technical & Education Consultant
> Aspect Education Services
> Canberra Branch
>
> "Guy Grubner"  wrote in message
> news:d308d26c.0503201648.67117f1b@posting.google.com...
>> I'm writing this email, as I don't have any new directions with the
>> new (and very elusive) MSF exam 70-301. I'm hoping that maybe someone
>> will lead the way, as I don't think that I'm the only one with this
>> problem.
>>
>> Before I'm starting, let me explain that I'm PMP and IT Project+
>> certified, with more than 10 years experience with PM in the IT world,
>> and especially in Microsoft technologies. So for me to pursuit the MSF
>> was the right thing to do. but I'm starting to regret dearly about
>> this step..
>>
>> I read the entire MSF white papers + the MSF course 1846A, but now
>> after the second time that I'm failing the exam, I don't have any
>> ideas what to do next!
>>
>> I have a long history of studying and passing exams (university and IT
>> certification), but I never saw exam like this! The reading materials
>> are not even connected to the questions in the exam with its very
>> tricky, elusive and unexplained questions!
>>
>> In the last two time, my score didn't get above 500 (passing score is
>> 700), and I don't know even which questions / directions to ask myself
>> for maybe attacking once again this elusive exam! It's not that I need
>> to have 5 more points to pass it.. I don't have any direction and it's
>> very hard to find anything on the net about this exam.
>>
>> Can someone help and lead some future directions / discussion
>> regarding this new exam. This will be much appreciated, and not just
>> for me!!!
>>
>> Is anyone already pasted this exam?
>>
>> Guy Grubner
>
>

Hello Sergey,
It would be impossible to discuss questions at this level of detail without 
breaking the NDA.
In general, I found very few ambiguous questions.  Most of those that I marked 
turned out to need more careful reading to understand the question.
There were a couple of questions that I still found ambiguous, so I marked 
and commented on those and moved on.
Ian
> Exactly the same situation. I successfully passed MCAD & 70-300 exams
> without any troubles.
> There wasn't possibility to take the 1846 course, but I've read it
> inside
> and out, MSF whitepapers too...
> Have got a lot of PM practice...
> I've scored 680 on exam - average weight of one question is 28, so one
> question was crucial :)
> Developing, Stabilizing, Deployment - 100%, Planning, Team Building -
> Good
> and
> Facilitating Risks is below the average...
> I realized during comment phase that I missed "budget was accepted" in
> description while I'm calculating
> the Exposure and my choice for the highest priority risk was wrong. It
> was
> already avoided risk :( Stupid mistake...
> So, there were some other risk-related questions about legacy
> application
> and old programmers, upgrade printers and
> not completed teams and answers were very debatable, IMHO... I marked
> and
> remembered them, but I wasn't confident.
> Could anybody helps to choose between questionable choices?
> 
> "Ian Thwaites"  wrote in
> message news:uZuo55yLFHA.1300@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> 
>> Hi Guy
>> I sat this exam last week and passed easily.  In my opinion, close
>> study
>> of
>> Course 1846 coupled with a thorough reading of the MSF 3.0
>> whitepapers
>> gives
>> you all the information you need to pass this exam.
>> The questions require careful reading, and in some ways they could be
>> seen
>> as reading comprehension tests; those for whom English is a second
>> language
>> may find some difficulties.
>> Clear thinking, and a good understanding of the above two resources,
>> are
>> enough to pass this exam.
>> Hope this helps
>> --
>> Ian Thwaites (BIT,MCSD,MCT,MCP)
>> Senior Technical & Education Consultant
>> Aspect Education Services
>> Canberra Branch
>> "Guy Grubner"  wrote in message
>> news:d308d26c.0503201648.67117f1b@posting.google.com...
>> 
>>> I'm writing this email, as I don't have any new directions with the
>>> new (and very elusive) MSF exam 70-301. I'm hoping that maybe
>>> someone will lead the way, as I don't think that I'm the only one
>>> with this problem.
>>> 
>>> Before I'm starting, let me explain that I'm PMP and IT Project+
>>> certified, with more than 10 years experience with PM in the IT
>>> world, and especially in Microsoft technologies. So for me to
>>> pursuit the MSF was the right thing to do. but I'm starting to
>>> regret dearly about this step..
>>> 
>>> I read the entire MSF white papers + the MSF course 1846A, but now
>>> after the second time that I'm failing the exam, I don't have any
>>> ideas what to do next!
>>> 
>>> I have a long history of studying and passing exams (university and
>>> IT certification), but I never saw exam like this! The reading
>>> materials are not even connected to the questions in the exam with
>>> its very tricky, elusive and unexplained questions!
>>> 
>>> In the last two time, my score didn't get above 500 (passing score
>>> is 700), and I don't know even which questions / directions to ask
>>> myself for maybe attacking once again this elusive exam! It's not
>>> that I need to have 5 more points to pass it.. I don't have any
>>> direction and it's very hard to find anything on the net about this
>>> exam.
>>> 
>>> Can someone help and lead some future directions / discussion
>>> regarding this new exam. This will be much appreciated, and not just
>>> for me!!!
>>> 
>>> Is anyone already pasted this exam?
>>> 
>>> Guy Grubner
>>>

Dear Sir,

How many quastion will come in the exam?

"Ian Thwaites" wrote:

> Hello Sergey,
> It would be impossible to discuss questions at this level of detail without 
> breaking the NDA.
> In general, I found very few ambiguous questions.  Most of those that I marked 
> turned out to need more careful reading to understand the question.
> There were a couple of questions that I still found ambiguous, so I marked 
> and commented on those and moved on.
> Ian
> > Exactly the same situation. I successfully passed MCAD & 70-300 exams
> > without any troubles.
> > There wasn't possibility to take the 1846 course, but I've read it
> > inside
> > and out, MSF whitepapers too...
> > Have got a lot of PM practice...
> > I've scored 680 on exam - average weight of one question is 28, so one
> > question was crucial :)
> > Developing, Stabilizing, Deployment - 100%, Planning, Team Building -
> > Good
> > and
> > Facilitating Risks is below the average...
> > I realized during comment phase that I missed "budget was accepted" in
> > description while I'm calculating
> > the Exposure and my choice for the highest priority risk was wrong. It
> > was
> > already avoided risk :( Stupid mistake...
> > So, there were some other risk-related questions about legacy
> > application
> > and old programmers, upgrade printers and
> > not completed teams and answers were very debatable, IMHO... I marked
> > and
> > remembered them, but I wasn't confident.
> > Could anybody helps to choose between questionable choices?
> > 
> > "Ian Thwaites"  wrote in
> > message news:uZuo55yLFHA.1300@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > 
> >> Hi Guy
> >> I sat this exam last week and passed easily.  In my opinion, close
> >> study
> >> of
> >> Course 1846 coupled with a thorough reading of the MSF 3.0
> >> whitepapers
> >> gives
> >> you all the information you need to pass this exam.
> >> The questions require careful reading, and in some ways they could be
> >> seen
> >> as reading comprehension tests; those for whom English is a second
> >> language
> >> may find some difficulties.
> >> Clear thinking, and a good understanding of the above two resources,
> >> are
> >> enough to pass this exam.
> >> Hope this helps
> >> --
> >> Ian Thwaites (BIT,MCSD,MCT,MCP)
> >> Senior Technical & Education Consultant
> >> Aspect Education Services
> >> Canberra Branch
> >> "Guy Grubner"  wrote in message
> >> news:d308d26c.0503201648.67117f1b@posting.google.com...
> >> 
> >>> I'm writing this email, as I don't have any new directions with the
> >>> new (and very elusive) MSF exam 70-301. I'm hoping that maybe
> >>> someone will lead the way, as I don't think that I'm the only one
> >>> with this problem.
> >>> 
> >>> Before I'm starting, let me explain that I'm PMP and IT Project+
> >>> certified, with more than 10 years experience with PM in the IT
> >>> world, and especially in Microsoft technologies. So for me to
> >>> pursuit the MSF was the right thing to do. but I'm starting to
> >>> regret dearly about this step..
> >>> 
> >>> I read the entire MSF white papers + the MSF course 1846A, but now
> >>> after the second time that I'm failing the exam, I don't have any
> >>> ideas what to do next!
> >>> 
> >>> I have a long history of studying and passing exams (university and
> >>> IT certification), but I never saw exam like this! The reading
> >>> materials are not even connected to the questions in the exam with
> >>> its very tricky, elusive and unexplained questions!
> >>> 
> >>> In the last two time, my score didn't get above 500 (passing score
> >>> is 700), and I don't know even which questions / directions to ask
> >>> myself for maybe attacking once again this elusive exam! It's not
> >>> that I need to have 5 more points to pass it.. I don't have any
> >>> direction and it's very hard to find anything on the net about this
> >>> exam.
> >>> 
> >>> Can someone help and lead some future directions / discussion
> >>> regarding this new exam. This will be much appreciated, and not just
> >>> for me!!!
> >>> 
> >>> Is anyone already pasted this exam?
> >>> 
> >>> Guy Grubner
> >>> 
> 
> 
> 
>

"Ian Thwaites" wrote:

> Hello Sergey,
> It would be impossible to discuss questions at this level of detail without 
> breaking the NDA.
> In general, I found very few ambiguous questions.  Most of those that I marked 
> turned out to need more careful reading to understand the question.
> There were a couple of questions that I still found ambiguous, so I marked 
> and commented on those and moved on.
> Ian
> > Exactly the same situation. I successfully passed MCAD & 70-300 exams
> > without any troubles.
> > There wasn't possibility to take the 1846 course, but I've read it
> > inside
> > and out, MSF whitepapers too...
> > Have got a lot of PM practice...
> > I've scored 680 on exam - average weight of one question is 28, so one
> > question was crucial :)
> > Developing, Stabilizing, Deployment - 100%, Planning, Team Building -
> > Good
> > and
> > Facilitating Risks is below the average...
> > I realized during comment phase that I missed "budget was accepted" in
> > description while I'm calculating
> > the Exposure and my choice for the highest priority risk was wrong. It
> > was
> > already avoided risk :( Stupid mistake...
> > So, there were some other risk-related questions about legacy
> > application
> > and old programmers, upgrade printers and
> > not completed teams and answers were very debatable, IMHO... I marked
> > and
> > remembered them, but I wasn't confident.
> > Could anybody helps to choose between questionable choices?
> > 
> > "Ian Thwaites"  wrote in
> > message news:uZuo55yLFHA.1300@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > 
> >> Hi Guy
> >> I sat this exam last week and passed easily.  In my opinion, close
> >> study
> >> of
> >> Course 1846 coupled with a thorough reading of the MSF 3.0
> >> whitepapers
> >> gives
> >> you all the information you need to pass this exam.
> >> The questions require careful reading, and in some ways they could be
> >> seen
> >> as reading comprehension tests; those for whom English is a second
> >> language
> >> may find some difficulties.
> >> Clear thinking, and a good understanding of the above two resources,
> >> are
> >> enough to pass this exam.
> >> Hope this helps
> >> --
> >> Ian Thwaites (BIT,MCSD,MCT,MCP)
> >> Senior Technical & Education Consultant
> >> Aspect Education Services
> >> Canberra Branch
> >> "Guy Grubner"  wrote in message
> >> news:d308d26c.0503201648.67117f1b@posting.google.com...
> >> 
> >>> I'm writing this email, as I don't have any new directions with the
> >>> new (and very elusive) MSF exam 70-301. I'm hoping that maybe
> >>> someone will lead the way, as I don't think that I'm the only one
> >>> with this problem.
> >>> 
> >>> Before I'm starting, let me explain that I'm PMP and IT Project+
> >>> certified, with more than 10 years experience with PM in the IT
> >>> world, and especially in Microsoft technologies. So for me to
> >>> pursuit the MSF was the right thing to do. but I'm starting to
> >>> regret dearly about this step..
> >>> 
> >>> I read the entire MSF white papers + the MSF course 1846A, but now
> >>> after the second time that I'm failing the exam, I don't have any
> >>> ideas what to do next!
> >>> 
> >>> I have a long history of studying and passing exams (university and
> >>> IT certification), but I never saw exam like this! The reading
> >>> materials are not even connected to the questions in the exam with
> >>> its very tricky, elusive and unexplained questions!
> >>> 
> >>> In the last two time, my score didn't get above 500 (passing score
> >>> is 700), and I don't know even which questions / directions to ask
> >>> myself for maybe attacking once again this elusive exam! It's not
> >>> that I need to have 5 more points to pass it.. I don't have any
> >>> direction and it's very hard to find anything on the net about this
> >>> exam.
> >>> 
> >>> Can someone help and lead some future directions / discussion
> >>> regarding this new exam. This will be much appreciated, and not just
> >>> for me!!!
> >>> 
> >>> Is anyone already pasted this exam?
> >>> 
> >>> Guy Grubner
> >>> 
> 
> 
> 
>

Marhoon wrote:
> Dear Sir,
>
> How many quastion will come in the exam?

This info is under the NDA of the exam I think...
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