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date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 09:26:02 -0800,
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Re: MVP?
Sean;
1/2. No, you just need to participate in the community,. Newsgroups are
very common, but many MVPs come from a user group in various regions.
3. What articles? Without credit, they could be written by anyone MVP or
otherwise.
4. Not necessarily true although most MVPs participate in forums specific
to their expertise. An individual is selected
There is no specific criteria for an MVP, which explains the very general
information.
Each product group within Microsoft may have their own requirements so what
is needed in one product group may not apply to another product group.
You have seen this page?
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Very few MVPs specifically work toward becoming an MVP.
Most are surprised to discover they earned it while some have never heard of
it until after they are notified of the award.
Working toward the Microsoft MVP award can be more difficult than any
certification.
Earning the Microsoft MVP award can be easier than any certification.
--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org
"Sean" wrote in message
news:C09D9EEE-23DD-4FC0-8E02-9535DD75DAE4@microsoft.com...
>I looked all over the MVP site trying to learn specifics of the program.
>The
> best I can tell and correct me if I am wrong. One gets a chance at being
> an
> MVP by just answering questions on message boards? That seems incomplete
> to
> me. Here are some of my commonly asked questions which I couldn't find on
> the
> commonly asked questions area of the site?
>
> 1.Does one need to register to become a MVP candidate?
> 2.If so, when, where and how
> 3.I see articles with no author, are these MVP candidate articles? If so,
> who do I submit my work to?
> 4.MVP's have specialty so I assume so do MVP candidates, where, when, what
> and how does this happen?
>
> I get the feeling I must have missed something on the MVP Q & A area
> because
> everything was very general, nothing specific.
>
>
> Thanks
date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 12:20:56 -0700
author: Jupiter Jones [MVP]
Re: MVP?
Thanks...Regarding 3 I read an article that didnt have an author but I cant
recall where and its very possible that I the authors name was on the bottom.
Would you happen to know if MS certification is considered a "product" area
of expertise
Thanks
"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote:
> Sean;
> 1/2. No, you just need to participate in the community,. Newsgroups are
> very common, but many MVPs come from a user group in various regions.
> 3. What articles? Without credit, they could be written by anyone MVP or
> otherwise.
> 4. Not necessarily true although most MVPs participate in forums specific
> to their expertise. An individual is selected
>
> There is no specific criteria for an MVP, which explains the very general
> information.
> Each product group within Microsoft may have their own requirements so what
> is needed in one product group may not apply to another product group.
>
> You have seen this page?
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>
> Very few MVPs specifically work toward becoming an MVP.
> Most are surprised to discover they earned it while some have never heard of
> it until after they are notified of the award.
> Working toward the Microsoft MVP award can be more difficult than any
> certification.
> Earning the Microsoft MVP award can be easier than any certification.
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
> http://www.dts-l.org
>
>
> "Sean" wrote in message
> news:C09D9EEE-23DD-4FC0-8E02-9535DD75DAE4@microsoft.com...
> >I looked all over the MVP site trying to learn specifics of the program.
> >The
> > best I can tell and correct me if I am wrong. One gets a chance at being
> > an
> > MVP by just answering questions on message boards? That seems incomplete
> > to
> > me. Here are some of my commonly asked questions which I couldn't find on
> > the
> > commonly asked questions area of the site?
> >
> > 1.Does one need to register to become a MVP candidate?
> > 2.If so, when, where and how
> > 3.I see articles with no author, are these MVP candidate articles? If so,
> > who do I submit my work to?
> > 4.MVP's have specialty so I assume so do MVP candidates, where, when, what
> > and how does this happen?
> >
> > I get the feeling I must have missed something on the MVP Q & A area
> > because
> > everything was very general, nothing specific.
> >
> >
> > Thanks
>
>
>
date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 13:11:02 -0800
author: Sean
Re: MVP?
In article <ezWyZ7b$FHA.3852@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl>, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]"
wrote:
>Sean;
>1/2. No, you just need to participate in the community,. Newsgroups are
>very common, but many MVPs come from a user group in various regions.
Newsgroups are simply the easiest community forum for Microsoft MVP leads to
scour for their choices when nominating new MVPs. There are many MVPs that
come from user groups, book writing, web site authoring, and other activities.
>3. What articles? Without credit, they could be written by anyone MVP or
>otherwise.
The MVP articles are generally written by people who are already MVPs -
Microsoft likes to use MVPs, because MVPs are people who have mostly already
demonstrated their technical knowledge, their ability to write, and their lack
of any need to be paid for contributing to the community. That last is only
slightly tongue-in-cheek. MVPs contribute to Microsoft's community in a way
that paid tech-support cannot possibly do - MVPs are unabashed and unbiased,
criticising some areas of Microsoft's output at the same time as they praise
others. Where they criticise, however, they do so on a basis of wanting the
product to get better, rather than trying to put Microsoft out of business!
Note that most MVPs view with some scorn anyone who actively tries to become
an MVP, or who tries obviously and significantly hard to get re-awarded. MVPs
post to the community because they love to post to the community, and because
they believe that this helps them to achieve a better working (or playing!)
environment, by improving the general quality of the product as well as their
understanding of it. [If you want to know how to do something really well,
try to teach it]
>4. Not necessarily true although most MVPs participate in forums specific
>to their expertise. An individual is selected
The criteria may vary from year to year; Microsoft selects the best
candidates, not the best 10%, or those who achieve a certain level, or those
who pass a certain number of posts, but they select those people that they
feel would be appropriate to count as MVPs. "Influencers" is one term for the
kind of person they are looking for.
>There is no specific criteria for an MVP, which explains the very general
>information.
>Each product group within Microsoft may have their own requirements so what
>is needed in one product group may not apply to another product group.
And... what is needed one year may be completely unnecessary next year.
>Very few MVPs specifically work toward becoming an MVP.
When it's detected, it's generally a reason for the MVPs to protest the
nomination of the person that does this. MVP is not a certification level,
it's a reward for being wonderful.
>Most are surprised to discover they earned it while some have never heard of
>it until after they are notified of the award.
Definitely the way I felt when I was awarded back when.
>Working toward the Microsoft MVP award can be more difficult than any
>certification.
And there's no way to predict what, if anything, will guarantee you success.
>Earning the Microsoft MVP award can be easier than any certification.
Yeah - the comment I hear from most MVPs is "I'd be doing this anyway, no
matter whether Microsoft rewarded or punished me for it".
Alun.
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date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 04:16:34 GMT
author: lid (Alun Jones)
Re: MVP?
There once was a nomination form. I was nominated in 1997 via the form. I
know of no form today.
The process of awarding MVPs? I am not sure 100% what goes on behind the
scenes, but I know the following are parts of the system:
1. MVP leads asking for recommendations
2. Recommendations from MVPs, both via email and in our MVP private groups
3. Microsoft recommendations from those employees who participate in support
groups, etc.
If you want advice to becomming an MVP, here are a few suggestions:
1. remain active - It is better to post a few posts every day and be
consistent than to do a marathon one weekend a month. Microsoft is looking
for people dedicated to support, not just those who want the schwag.
2. Answer questions you know - while this may seem rather "well, duh!",
there are those who feel that simply posting a lot will get them an MVP
award.
3. Get published - books are better, but numerous articles is a good start.
4. Start your own support site and link back to it in your posts
And, most importat
5. Foster an attitude of helping others
Overall, if you are dedicated and give good advice, you have a shot at
getting noticed. If you are simply attempting to "win an MVP award", you are
not focusing in the right direction.
--
Gregory A. Beamer
************************************************
Think outside the box!
************************************************
"Sean" wrote in message
news:C09D9EEE-23DD-4FC0-8E02-9535DD75DAE4@microsoft.com...
>I looked all over the MVP site trying to learn specifics of the program.
>The
> best I can tell and correct me if I am wrong. One gets a chance at being
> an
> MVP by just answering questions on message boards? That seems incomplete
> to
> me. Here are some of my commonly asked questions which I couldn't find on
> the
> commonly asked questions area of the site?
>
> 1.Does one need to register to become a MVP candidate?
> 2.If so, when, where and how
> 3.I see articles with no author, are these MVP candidate articles? If so,
> who do I submit my work to?
> 4.MVP's have specialty so I assume so do MVP candidates, where, when, what
> and how does this happen?
>
> I get the feeling I must have missed something on the MVP Q & A area
> because
> everything was very general, nothing specific.
>
>
> Thanks
date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 09:33:02 -0600
author: Cowboy \(Gregory A. Beamer\) ospamM
Re: MVP?
"Cowboy (Gregory A. Beamer)" <NospamMgbworld@comcast.netNospamM> wrote in
message news:Ovp8r8xAGHA.1676@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> There once was a nomination form. I was nominated in 1997 via the form. I
> know of no form today.
You could still 'nominate' somebody. Either communicate with an existing MVP
about somebody you think is deserving, or send an email directly to
MVPGA@microsoft.com.
Q9: How can I become a Microsoft MVP?
A9: Individuals are nominated to be considered for MVPs by their peers or
Microsoft based on activities in the offline or online technical
communities. The MVP Program and annual award is based solely on an
individual's contributions from the previous year and those contributions
are then compared amongst the other candidates for any given nomination
cycle to determine who will be awarded.
Q11: How do I get in contact with the MVP program team?
A11: Email MVPGA@microsoft.com for the universal contact for anyone who
wishes to get in touch with the MVP Program Team.
The full FAQ is available at http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs
> If you want advice to becomming an MVP, here are a few suggestions:
>
> 1. remain active - It is better to post a few posts every day and be
> consistent than to do a marathon one weekend a month. Microsoft is looking
> for people dedicated to support, not just those who want the schwag.
> 2. Answer questions you know - while this may seem rather "well, duh!",
> there are those who feel that simply posting a lot will get them an MVP
> award.
> 3. Get published - books are better, but numerous articles is a good
> start.
> 4. Start your own support site and link back to it in your posts
>
> And, most importat
> 5. Foster an attitude of helping others
>
> Overall, if you are dedicated and give good advice, you have a shot at
> getting noticed. If you are simply attempting to "win an MVP award", you
> are not focusing in the right direction.
Excellent points, Gregory... and I'll emphasize on #2, the opposite point --
do -not- answer questions you don't know, or, if you have a thought or
opinion, be very liberal with the words 'think', 'maybe', etc.
date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 09:15:41 -0600
author: Lawrence Garvin alias
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