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date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:44:25 -0400,    group: microsoft.public.outlook.mac        back       


Multiple message bounces   
My employer uses Outlook mail servers running on Macs. Because I'm out 
of the office almost all of the time, I have set up my forwarding on my 
account.  The mail is forwarded to a POP server with my home DSL 
provider. Works great, except...

If someone sends a huge attachment, or if I"m away and unable to clear 
mail off the POP server it gets filled up and mail from the Outlook 
server will bounce from the POP (10 Meg limit).

The bounce message will get ping-ponged back and forth in an infinite 
loop. If don't catch it right away, this can cause 10,000 or more bounce 
messages that have brought the Outlook server to its knees.

The tech guys get pissed at me for letting this happen and threaten to 
cut off my forwarding.  But it seems to me that the server should have 
some way of catching this once the bounce messages start looping.

Any ideas?

(And, no, my POP provider doesn't let me turn off bounce notification.)
date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:44:25 -0400   author:   Glen McGregor

Re: Multiple message bounces   
In article <tRhre.5307$yU.198238@news20.bellglobal.com>,
 Glen McGregor  wrote:

> My employer uses Outlook mail servers running on Macs. Because I'm out 
> of the office almost all of the time, I have set up my forwarding on my 
> account.  The mail is forwarded to a POP server with my home DSL 
> provider. Works great, except...
> 
> If someone sends a huge attachment, or if I"m away and unable to clear 
> mail off the POP server it gets filled up and mail from the Outlook 
> server will bounce from the POP (10 Meg limit).
> 
> The bounce message will get ping-ponged back and forth in an infinite 
> loop. If don't catch it right away, this can cause 10,000 or more bounce 
> messages that have brought the Outlook server to its knees.
> 
> The tech guys get pissed at me for letting this happen and threaten to 
> cut off my forwarding.  But it seems to me that the server should have 
> some way of catching this once the bounce messages start looping.

Hi Glen!

I'm not an Exchange server administrator but I'm almost positive that 
Exchange has the ability to stop the ping ponging of messages. It's 
something your email admins should be working toward whether or not your 
messages are bouncing.

But you could probably create a better rule that not only forwards new 
messages but also does NOT forward mail messages returned from your POP 
server. You have the ability to specify many different options within 
the one rule.

However, I would suggest that instead of auto-forwarding your mail to a 
POP account you look into whether or not your company uses OWA (Outlook 
Web Access). This allows you to connect directly back to your company's 
email servers via web browser. This too needs to be enabled by your 
admins.

Hope this helps! bill
-- 
William M. Smith
(Microsoft Interop MVP)
date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:06:40 -0500   author:   William Smith

Re: Multiple message bounces   
Thanks, Bill. I'll ask them about these suggestions.

> Hi Glen!
> 
> I'm not an Exchange server administrator but I'm almost positive that 
> Exchange has the ability to stop the ping ponging of messages. It's 
> something your email admins should be working toward whether or not your 
> messages are bouncing.
> 
> But you could probably create a better rule that not only forwards new 
> messages but also does NOT forward mail messages returned from your POP 
> server. You have the ability to specify many different options within 
> the one rule.
> 
> However, I would suggest that instead of auto-forwarding your mail to a 
> POP account you look into whether or not your company uses OWA (Outlook 
> Web Access). This allows you to connect directly back to your company's 
> email servers via web browser. This too needs to be enabled by your 
> admins.
> 
> Hope this helps! bill
date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:53:44 -0400   author:   Glen McGregor

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