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date: 2 Jun 2005 11:08:51 -0700,    group: microsoft.public.outlook.mac        back       


Outlook 2001 with Tiger   
Can I use (download) Outlook 2001 with Tiger?  I have a new mac Mini
and don't know much yet.... I have Word/Excel and Powerpoint (purchased
at Apple store)...
Thanx
date: 2 Jun 2005 11:08:51 -0700   author:   Scott

Re: Outlook 2001 with Tiger   
In article ,
 "Scott"  wrote:

> Can I use (download) Outlook 2001 with Tiger?  I have a new mac Mini
> and don't know much yet.... I have Word/Excel and Powerpoint (purchased
> at Apple store)...
> Thanx


Hi Scott!

Outlook 2001 will run in Classic mode (using Mac OS 9), which Tiger 
supports.

If you have Word, Excel and PowerPoint you may also have Entourage. 
Entourage from Office 2004 supports Exchange connections.

Hope this helps! bill
-- 
William M. Smith
(Microsoft Interop MVP)
date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 21:41:13 -0500   author:   William Smith

Re: Outlook 2001 with Tiger   
I have a new PowerBook G4 which came pre-installed with Tiger.  I went
ahead and installed the OS 9.2 support from the setup disk and
downloaded a new install of Outlook 2001.  But when I attempt to
install Outlook I get the error message "Microsoft Outlook cannot write
information needed to complete installation".

Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?

--Tim
date: 21 Jun 2005 09:57:05 -0700   author:   unknown

Re: Outlook 2001 with Tiger   
In article ,
 tim_castro@yahoo.com wrote:

> I have a new PowerBook G4 which came pre-installed with Tiger.  I went
> ahead and installed the OS 9.2 support from the setup disk and
> downloaded a new install of Outlook 2001.  But when I attempt to
> install Outlook I get the error message "Microsoft Outlook cannot write
> information needed to complete installation".
> 
> Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?

Hi Tim!

Your problem sounds like one that was introduced with Panther when it 
was first released. Outlook 2001 users who had upgraded from Jaguar to 
Panther all of a sudden couldn't install Outlook 2001 and use it.

No definitive solution was ever found that I know of but the workaround 
was to simply put the Outlook 2001 folder on another disk apart from the 
startup disk. You could also put it on a disk image if you didn't have a 
second disk and have the disk image automatically mount at login.

Hope this helps! bill
-- 
William M. Smith
(Microsoft Interop MVP)
date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:31:35 -0500   author:   William Smith

Re: Outlook 2001 with Tiger   
William & Tim,

I just purchased 14 Mac minis with 10.4 Tiger and came across this problem 
as well.  The good news is I've discovered a fix easier than mounted 
volumes, etc.  I installed Outlook into the user's Applications folder - not 
the Applications (Mac OS 9) folder.

/Macintosh HD/Users/<username>/Applications/Microsoft Outlook 2001

Go into the Outlook Files folder within Microsoft Outlook 2001 folder

/Macintosh HD/Users/<username>/Applications/Microsoft Outlook 2001/Outlook 
Files

Run the Outlook Settings app and create the profile - it should be 
successful.  Then go into the profile itself and access the Delivery tab. 
It should ask you to authenticate.

After going through that process (and two hours of messing with BSD 
permissions), I was successfully able to log into my Exchange 2000 server.



"William Smith"  wrote in message 
news:mecklists-DA4336.23313521062005@msnews.microsoft.com...
> In article ,
> tim_castro@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> I have a new PowerBook G4 which came pre-installed with Tiger.  I went
>> ahead and installed the OS 9.2 support from the setup disk and
>> downloaded a new install of Outlook 2001.  But when I attempt to
>> install Outlook I get the error message "Microsoft Outlook cannot write
>> information needed to complete installation".
>>
>> Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?
>
> Hi Tim!
>
> Your problem sounds like one that was introduced with Panther when it
> was first released. Outlook 2001 users who had upgraded from Jaguar to
> Panther all of a sudden couldn't install Outlook 2001 and use it.
>
> No definitive solution was ever found that I know of but the workaround
> was to simply put the Outlook 2001 folder on another disk apart from the
> startup disk. You could also put it on a disk image if you didn't have a
> second disk and have the disk image automatically mount at login.
>
> Hope this helps! bill
> -- 
> William M. Smith
> (Microsoft Interop MVP)
date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 10:16:50 -0500   author:   T. Sepper

Re: Outlook 2001 with Tiger   
In article ,
 "T. Sepper"  wrote:

> William & Tim,
> 
> I just purchased 14 Mac minis with 10.4 Tiger and came across this problem 
> as well.  The good news is I've discovered a fix easier than mounted 
> volumes, etc.  I installed Outlook into the user's Applications folder - not 
> the Applications (Mac OS 9) folder.

That's a great idea and seems to support the theory that this whole 
problem is permissions based!

What happens if you install in the /Users/Shared folder instead so that 
every user who logs in can access it?

bill
-- 
William M. Smith
(Microsoft Interop MVP)
date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 21:59:57 -0500   author:   William Smith

Re: Outlook 2001 with Tiger   
Hi T. Sepper

I have the same Problem.
I try your workaround and it works, I can open the Calendar and the
Inbox.
But I can't open the Global Adressbook and sending E-Mails doesn't
work.
And with the login is also something strange, I must insert the
password
twice, it opens two loginmasks.
I you have another solution, please let me now.

Thanks, Oliver

T. Sepper schrieb:
> William & Tim,
>
> I just purchased 14 Mac minis with 10.4 Tiger and came across this problem
> as well.  The good news is I've discovered a fix easier than mounted
> volumes, etc.  I installed Outlook into the user's Applications folder - not
> the Applications (Mac OS 9) folder.
>
> /Macintosh HD/Users/<username>/Applications/Microsoft Outlook 2001
>
> Go into the Outlook Files folder within Microsoft Outlook 2001 folder
>
> /Macintosh HD/Users/<username>/Applications/Microsoft Outlook 2001/Outlook
> Files
>
> Run the Outlook Settings app and create the profile - it should be
> successful.  Then go into the profile itself and access the Delivery tab.
> It should ask you to authenticate.
>
> After going through that process (and two hours of messing with BSD
> permissions), I was successfully able to log into my Exchange 2000 server.
>
>
>
> "William Smith"  wrote in message
> news:mecklists-DA4336.23313521062005@msnews.microsoft.com...
> > In article ,
> > tim_castro@yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> >> I have a new PowerBook G4 which came pre-installed with Tiger.  I went
> >> ahead and installed the OS 9.2 support from the setup disk and
> >> downloaded a new install of Outlook 2001.  But when I attempt to
> >> install Outlook I get the error message "Microsoft Outlook cannot write
> >> information needed to complete installation".
> >>
> >> Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?
> >
> > Hi Tim!
> >
> > Your problem sounds like one that was introduced with Panther when it
> > was first released. Outlook 2001 users who had upgraded from Jaguar to
> > Panther all of a sudden couldn't install Outlook 2001 and use it.
> >
> > No definitive solution was ever found that I know of but the workaround
> > was to simply put the Outlook 2001 folder on another disk apart from the
> > startup disk. You could also put it on a disk image if you didn't have a
> > second disk and have the disk image automatically mount at login.
> >
> > Hope this helps! bill
> > -- 
> > William M. Smith
> > (Microsoft Interop MVP)
date: 18 Jul 2005 09:18:29 -0700   author:   O. Oberholzer

Re: Outlook 2001 with Tiger   
I also have the same exact error.  I am required to enter the password twice 
and then cannot send mail.

Does anyone have other recomendations?

Harlan


"O. Oberholzer" wrote:

> Hi T. Sepper
> 
> I have the same Problem.
> I try your workaround and it works, I can open the Calendar and the
> Inbox.
> But I can't open the Global Adressbook and sending E-Mails doesn't
> work.
> And with the login is also something strange, I must insert the
> password
> twice, it opens two loginmasks.
> I you have another solution, please let me now.
> 
> Thanks, Oliver
> 
> T. Sepper schrieb:
> > William & Tim,
> >
> > I just purchased 14 Mac minis with 10.4 Tiger and came across this problem
> > as well.  The good news is I've discovered a fix easier than mounted
> > volumes, etc.  I installed Outlook into the user's Applications folder - not
> > the Applications (Mac OS 9) folder.
> >
> > /Macintosh HD/Users/<username>/Applications/Microsoft Outlook 2001
> >
> > Go into the Outlook Files folder within Microsoft Outlook 2001 folder
> >
> > /Macintosh HD/Users/<username>/Applications/Microsoft Outlook 2001/Outlook
> > Files
> >
> > Run the Outlook Settings app and create the profile - it should be
> > successful.  Then go into the profile itself and access the Delivery tab.
> > It should ask you to authenticate.
> >
> > After going through that process (and two hours of messing with BSD
> > permissions), I was successfully able to log into my Exchange 2000 server.
> >
> >
> >
> > "William Smith"  wrote in message
> > news:mecklists-DA4336.23313521062005@msnews.microsoft.com...
> > > In article ,
> > > tim_castro@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >
> > >> I have a new PowerBook G4 which came pre-installed with Tiger.  I went
> > >> ahead and installed the OS 9.2 support from the setup disk and
> > >> downloaded a new install of Outlook 2001.  But when I attempt to
> > >> install Outlook I get the error message "Microsoft Outlook cannot write
> > >> information needed to complete installation".
> > >>
> > >> Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?
> > >
> > > Hi Tim!
> > >
> > > Your problem sounds like one that was introduced with Panther when it
> > > was first released. Outlook 2001 users who had upgraded from Jaguar to
> > > Panther all of a sudden couldn't install Outlook 2001 and use it.
> > >
> > > No definitive solution was ever found that I know of but the workaround
> > > was to simply put the Outlook 2001 folder on another disk apart from the
> > > startup disk. You could also put it on a disk image if you didn't have a
> > > second disk and have the disk image automatically mount at login.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps! bill
> > > -- 
> > > William M. Smith
> > > (Microsoft Interop MVP)
> 
>
date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 08:27:10 -0700   author:   danharlan

Re: Outlook 2001 with Tiger   
On 2005-07-29 08:27:10 -0700, danharlan 
 said:

> I also have the same exact error.  I am required to enter the password 
> twice and then cannot send mail.
> 
> Does anyone have other recomendations?
> 
> Harlan

We're also having this problem on our Tiger image we just created. It's 
very annoying that there seems no logical way to fix it. Any other 
ideas out there besides rebuilding our image from scratch and hoping 
that works?
date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 18:30:54 GMT   author:   Borofka, Bennett

Re: Outlook 2001 with Tiger   
I've the same problem: Can't install Outlook 2001 on my new PowerBook
However Outlook 2001 runs smootly on my old PB running Tiger 10.4.2.
Tiger on the old PB was installed by upgrading from 10.3.9 and didn't
need to install Outlook 2001.

It went wrong with the new preinstalled tiger & Classic.
Maybe this expierence can help the real knowledgeables

rgds
Henk



William Smith schreef:

> In article ,
>  "T. Sepper"  wrote:
>
> > William & Tim,
> >
> > I just purchased 14 Mac minis with 10.4 Tiger and came across this problem
> > as well.  The good news is I've discovered a fix easier than mounted
> > volumes, etc.  I installed Outlook into the user's Applications folder - not
> > the Applications (Mac OS 9) folder.
>
> That's a great idea and seems to support the theory that this whole
> problem is permissions based!
>
> What happens if you install in the /Users/Shared folder instead so that
> every user who logs in can access it?
> 
> bill
> -- 
> William M. Smith
> (Microsoft Interop MVP)
date: 9 Aug 2005 14:44:02 -0700   author:   Henk

Re: Outlook 2001 with Tiger   
I first thought it was a Tiger issue but I have found posts that talk about 
10.3 also with the same problem.  I  then thought it was G5 poroblem but your 
new PB is still a G$.  What are the similarites?

"Henk" wrote:

> I've the same problem: Can't install Outlook 2001 on my new PowerBook
> However Outlook 2001 runs smootly on my old PB running Tiger 10.4.2.
> Tiger on the old PB was installed by upgrading from 10.3.9 and didn't
> need to install Outlook 2001.
> 
> It went wrong with the new preinstalled tiger & Classic.
> Maybe this expierence can help the real knowledgeables
> 
> rgds
> Henk
> 
> 
> 
> William Smith schreef:
> 
> > In article ,
> >  "T. Sepper"  wrote:
> >
> > > William & Tim,
> > >
> > > I just purchased 14 Mac minis with 10.4 Tiger and came across this problem
> > > as well.  The good news is I've discovered a fix easier than mounted
> > > volumes, etc.  I installed Outlook into the user's Applications folder - not
> > > the Applications (Mac OS 9) folder.
> >
> > That's a great idea and seems to support the theory that this whole
> > problem is permissions based!
> >
> > What happens if you install in the /Users/Shared folder instead so that
> > every user who logs in can access it?
> > 
> > bill
> > -- 
> > William M. Smith
> > (Microsoft Interop MVP)
> 
>
date: Tue, 9 Aug 2005 18:37:01 -0700   author:   danharlan

Re: Outlook 2001 with Tiger   
"Borofka" <Borofka>, "Bennett" wrote:

> On 2005-07-29 08:27:10 -0700, danharlan 
>  said:
> 
> > I also have the same exact error.  I am required to enter the password 
> > twice and then cannot send mail.
> > 
> > Does anyone have other recomendations?
> > 
> > Harlan
> 
> We're also having this problem on our Tiger image we just created. It's 
> very annoying that there seems no logical way to fix it. Any other 
> ideas out there besides rebuilding our image from scratch and hoping 
> that works?
> 

We are ALSO having the same problem!  Sounds like it's quite an issue.  Is 
there a fix for this?
date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 03:58:03 -0700   author:   Alex

Re: Outlook 2001 with Tiger   
The following is a post that was sent to me on another newsgroup.   I do not 
have access to a Mac with Tiger at this moment.  Can anyone try the 
recomendation?
--------------------------------------------------------------
Hi, 

Thanks for your update and the screenshot. 

I have performed extensive research on this issue, for further t-shooting, 
please check the following points: 

1. After discussing this issue with several other senior Mac Office support 
professionals, I was told that the classic mode is not a good choice for 
Outlook 2001. As you know, Outlook 2001 was designed for old Mac OS and the 
classic mode is just something like a workaround. We may encountered 
certain unexpected issues under this mode. In this way, we can try 
rebooting the Mac to OS 9 and test the issue again. 

2. Enlarge Memory 
a. How much memory is allocated to the program? I suggest not less than 
30,000KB for the troubleshooting. Please check and increase it if necessary. 
b. Go to Apple | Control Panel | Memory. 
c. In the Memory dialog, click to check on the Virtual Memory option. 
d. Close the Memory dialog and try again to test whether the problem 
persists. 

By the way, does this issue occur to all clients or just certain ones? What 
is the Exchange version on your side? 

We look forward to your progress. Have a nice day! 

----------------------------------------------------------

"Alex" wrote:

> "Borofka" <Borofka>, "Bennett" wrote:
> 
> > On 2005-07-29 08:27:10 -0700, danharlan 
> >  said:
> > 
> > > I also have the same exact error.  I am required to enter the password 
> > > twice and then cannot send mail.
> > > 
> > > Does anyone have other recomendations?
> > > 
> > > Harlan
> > 
> > We're also having this problem on our Tiger image we just created. It's 
> > very annoying that there seems no logical way to fix it. Any other 
> > ideas out there besides rebuilding our image from scratch and hoping 
> > that works?
> > 
> 
> We are ALSO having the same problem!  Sounds like it's quite an issue.  Is 
> there a fix for this?
date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 06:45:03 -0700   author:   danharlan

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