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date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 14:36:06 -0700 (PDT),
group: microsoft.public.macintosh.general
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Re: Can a long time PC user adapt to a MAC?
I run both systems and definitely prefer the Mac, but it is far from
flawless. The key problems I have I will admit are associated with
Microsoft Office for Mac. I do run Vmware Fusion and love it. I need it
for a client whose VPN security appliance company refuses to release an
update for Mac OS/X Leopard. Other than that there are the usual software
glitches here and there.
Vista is not bad in terms of reliability, but the constant process of having
to click through ten screens to accomplish one task is ridiculous. If you
try to eliminate the steps the computer is popping up alerts and flashing
everywhere that you are violating the security policy. It is so bad that
even simple games like Solitaire have been screwed up in Vista.
My wife got so upset I had to port over the XP version of Solitaire onto her
Vista machine. It needed the exe file and a dll file. Stuff like that
doesn't happen with the Mac.
It would pretty much be a perfect system if they could:
- get the laptops to run cooler (I have a Mac Pro and MacBook Pro, the Mac
Pro is fine, the MacBook Pro gets so hot you could cook with it)
- incorporate a more robust toolkit into the O/S that does all of the
things that you have to buy software to do such as Spring Cleaning, Onyx,
and TechTool Pro as well as anti-virus, spyware, and malware. While I have
only a miniscule of the problems in these areas that I did with PC's, as
Apple sells more systems they are becoming more of a target.
- build better software (the iWork products are a joke when compared to the
robust nature and interoperability of the Microsoft Office platform. I had
to purchase MSOffice for Mac in order to work on files that were being sent
back and forth between me and my clients, none of whom use Mac's. There
were always complaining of formatting losses and other problems.)
- build better wireless adapters and software. I still can't get past
130mbps even though my PC is running 300mbps. I have all the router
parameters properly set. The problem is the Mac.
- Add an esata interface
- find more professional and less arrogant service and sales personnel to
work in their stores and assist you online. Despite my repeated attempts to
use their services I ultimately have only found the correct answers and good
advice on forums such as this one.
On 8/12/08 2:38 PM, in article OH65UqK$IHA.2056@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl,
"Michael Gossett" wrote:
> Not sure why you hate vista? Have you seen the Mojave expirement? Everyone
> that tried Vista liked it. People base their experience off of other
> people's which was because they would run vista on inadequate hardware, etc.
> Vista is the best OS out currently and the most stable.I have had ZERO
> issues with Vista on many machines.
> "CyberTaz" wrote in message
> news:C4BBB33B.3FCF1%onlygeneraltaz1@com.cast.net...
>> Can't be too tough - I do it about 30 times a day... When I'm not working
>> on
>> both simultaneously... And I'm an addle-minded old man :-)
>>
>> Your DOS knowledge may prove useful, but not directly - OS X is Unix, but
>> you'll most likely have a ball with Terminal & AppleScript. As far as
>> integration with your existing network there are a number of variables -
>> I'd
>> suggest you get some answers from the Apple Discussions as well as
>> visiting
>> your local Apple dealer.
>>
>> http://discussions.apple.com/index.jspa
>>
>> Regards |:>)
>> Bob Jones
>> [MVP] Office:Mac
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/1/08 5:36 PM, in article
>> 6b09da2b-5294-407d-a2e1-994a7b109989@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com,
>> "cozzmo1@hotmail.com" wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Can a long time PC user adapt to a MAC?
>>>
>>> I have always used Microsoft PC's, and know it very well. Now I am in
>>> the market for a new laptop. I hate vista (hate hate hate) and have
>>> been thinking of trying a MAC.
>>> I have a lot of basic DOS-batch programs that I run. (*.bat) to backup
>>> and grep files etc.
>>> is there a MAC equivalent?
>>>
>>> Also, I like to run a lot of old legacy exe files and would want them
>>> to work.
>>> Can MS office work?
>>> Nero?
>>> Adobe Premier?
>>> and networking into my wireless LAN and xp machines?
>>>
>>> Any other issues a person in my position may need to consider?
>>> I am worried about what will be my major limitations and time
>>> consuming headaches in the migration process.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Crzzy1
>>
>
date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:45:54 -0400
author: Joe Gardill
Re: Can a long time PC user adapt to a MAC?
Finally switching to a MAC Book and want to run XP for business applications.
Any help with how this is accomplished? Which version (service pack 1 - 2 -
3??) Running both MAC software and XP simultaneously, etc. Thanks
"Joe Gardill" wrote:
> I run both systems and definitely prefer the Mac, but it is far from
> flawless. The key problems I have I will admit are associated with
> Microsoft Office for Mac. I do run Vmware Fusion and love it. I need it
> for a client whose VPN security appliance company refuses to release an
> update for Mac OS/X Leopard. Other than that there are the usual software
> glitches here and there.
>
> Vista is not bad in terms of reliability, but the constant process of having
> to click through ten screens to accomplish one task is ridiculous. If you
> try to eliminate the steps the computer is popping up alerts and flashing
> everywhere that you are violating the security policy. It is so bad that
> even simple games like Solitaire have been screwed up in Vista.
>
> My wife got so upset I had to port over the XP version of Solitaire onto her
> Vista machine. It needed the exe file and a dll file. Stuff like that
> doesn't happen with the Mac.
>
> It would pretty much be a perfect system if they could:
> - get the laptops to run cooler (I have a Mac Pro and MacBook Pro, the Mac
> Pro is fine, the MacBook Pro gets so hot you could cook with it)
> - incorporate a more robust toolkit into the O/S that does all of the
> things that you have to buy software to do such as Spring Cleaning, Onyx,
> and TechTool Pro as well as anti-virus, spyware, and malware. While I have
> only a miniscule of the problems in these areas that I did with PC's, as
> Apple sells more systems they are becoming more of a target.
> - build better software (the iWork products are a joke when compared to the
> robust nature and interoperability of the Microsoft Office platform. I had
> to purchase MSOffice for Mac in order to work on files that were being sent
> back and forth between me and my clients, none of whom use Mac's. There
> were always complaining of formatting losses and other problems.)
> - build better wireless adapters and software. I still can't get past
> 130mbps even though my PC is running 300mbps. I have all the router
> parameters properly set. The problem is the Mac.
> - Add an esata interface
> - find more professional and less arrogant service and sales personnel to
> work in their stores and assist you online. Despite my repeated attempts to
> use their services I ultimately have only found the correct answers and good
> advice on forums such as this one.
>
>
> On 8/12/08 2:38 PM, in article OH65UqK$IHA.2056@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl,
> "Michael Gossett" wrote:
>
> > Not sure why you hate vista? Have you seen the Mojave expirement? Everyone
> > that tried Vista liked it. People base their experience off of other
> > people's which was because they would run vista on inadequate hardware, etc.
> > Vista is the best OS out currently and the most stable.I have had ZERO
> > issues with Vista on many machines.
> > "CyberTaz" wrote in message
> > news:C4BBB33B.3FCF1%onlygeneraltaz1@com.cast.net...
> >> Can't be too tough - I do it about 30 times a day... When I'm not working
> >> on
> >> both simultaneously... And I'm an addle-minded old man :-)
> >>
> >> Your DOS knowledge may prove useful, but not directly - OS X is Unix, but
> >> you'll most likely have a ball with Terminal & AppleScript. As far as
> >> integration with your existing network there are a number of variables -
> >> I'd
> >> suggest you get some answers from the Apple Discussions as well as
> >> visiting
> >> your local Apple dealer.
> >>
> >> http://discussions.apple.com/index.jspa
> >>
> >> Regards |:>)
> >> Bob Jones
> >> [MVP] Office:Mac
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 8/1/08 5:36 PM, in article
> >> 6b09da2b-5294-407d-a2e1-994a7b109989@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com,
> >> "cozzmo1@hotmail.com" wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Can a long time PC user adapt to a MAC?
> >>>
> >>> I have always used Microsoft PC's, and know it very well. Now I am in
> >>> the market for a new laptop. I hate vista (hate hate hate) and have
> >>> been thinking of trying a MAC.
> >>> I have a lot of basic DOS-batch programs that I run. (*.bat) to backup
> >>> and grep files etc.
> >>> is there a MAC equivalent?
> >>>
> >>> Also, I like to run a lot of old legacy exe files and would want them
> >>> to work.
> >>> Can MS office work?
> >>> Nero?
> >>> Adobe Premier?
> >>> and networking into my wireless LAN and xp machines?
> >>>
> >>> Any other issues a person in my position may need to consider?
> >>> I am worried about what will be my major limitations and time
> >>> consuming headaches in the migration process.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Crzzy1
> >>
> >
>
>
date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:51:00 -0700
author: Wild Ozzie
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