Hello.

Is it me or does an updated Office 2000 SP3's Word cannot recognize and 
read Office Mac 2008's Word docx files that have Chinese characters in 
filenames (e.g., test土白王.docx)? If I rename the filename to English 
texts only, then no problems and old Word can recognize the file format 
(Word 2007). Office 2000 was in Windows XP Pro. SP3 machine with NTFS.

Thank you in advance. :)
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Ant <philpi@earthlink.netANT> wrote:

> Hello.

        Hi,
 
> Is it me or does an updated Office 2000 SP3's Word cannot recognize and
> read Office Mac 2008's Word docx files that have Chinese characters in
> filenames (e.g., test???.docx)? If I rename the filename to English 
> texts only, then no problems and old Word can recognize the file format
> (Word 2007). Office 2000 was in Windows XP Pro. SP3 machine with NTFS.


On the MS site there are converters for Office 2007 file formats but I
can't remember whether they are available for Office 2000 and 2003 or
2003 only :-\



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On 9/22/2008 1:15 PM PT, Corentin Cras-Méneur typed:

> Ant <philpi@earthlink.netANT> wrote:
> 
>> Hello.
> 
>         Hi,
>  
>> Is it me or does an updated Office 2000 SP3's Word cannot recognize and
>> read Office Mac 2008's Word docx files that have Chinese characters in
>> filenames (e.g., test???.docx)? If I rename the filename to English 
>> texts only, then no problems and old Word can recognize the file format
>> (Word 2007). Office 2000 was in Windows XP Pro. SP3 machine with NTFS.
> 
> 
> On the MS site there are converters for Office 2007 file formats but I
> can't remember whether they are available for Office 2000 and 2003 or
> 2003 only :-\

They're for 2000 too. I have those already. I found out it happens with 
the same Word 2000 format when saving and opening a new document. So, it 
is not related to Office Mac 2008. It seems like Office 2000 doesn't 
like asian filenames. :(
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Yes, the PC OXML Converters can be used with Office 2000 or later.

Although that's the way you should suggest the other users "adjust" it may
not always be practical or diplomatic to do so. If you prefer you can use
Word> Preferences> Save & select Word 97-2004 Document (.doc) as your
default. Just keep in mind that doing so prevents you from effectively using
any 2008 features which aren't supported by that format.

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones 
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On 9/22/08 4:15 PM, in article
1inocyj.1vrf3drjlk765N%korventeen@NoSpam.mvps.org, "Corentin Cras-Méneur"
 wrote:

> Ant <philpi@earthlink.netANT> wrote:
> 
>> Hello.
> 
>         Hi,
>  
>> Is it me or does an updated Office 2000 SP3's Word cannot recognize and
>> read Office Mac 2008's Word docx files that have Chinese characters in
>> filenames (e.g., test???.docx)? If I rename the filename to English
>> texts only, then no problems and old Word can recognize the file format
>> (Word 2007). Office 2000 was in Windows XP Pro. SP3 machine with NTFS.
> 
> 
> On the MS site there are converters for Office 2007 file formats but I
> can't remember whether they are available for Office 2000 and 2003 or
> 2003 only :-\
> 
> 
> 
> Corentin

On 9/22/2008 1:25 PM PT, Ant typed:

>>> Is it me or does an updated Office 2000 SP3's Word cannot recognize and
>>> read Office Mac 2008's Word docx files that have Chinese characters in
>>> filenames (e.g., test???.docx)? If I rename the filename to English 
>>> texts only, then no problems and old Word can recognize the file format
>>> (Word 2007). Office 2000 was in Windows XP Pro. SP3 machine with NTFS.
>>
>>
>> On the MS site there are converters for Office 2007 file formats but I
>> can't remember whether they are available for Office 2000 and 2003 or
>> 2003 only :-\
> 
> They're for 2000 too. I have those already. I found out it happens with 
> the same Word 2000 format when saving and opening a new document. So, it 
> is not related to Office Mac 2008. It seems like Office 2000 doesn't 
> like asian filenames. :(

Here's a screen shot of the error I forgot to share in my past reply: 
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/4858/word2000docby4.gif ...
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On 9/22/08 4:56 PM, in article eTv5jWPHJHA.4232@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl, "Ant"
<philpi@earthlink.netANT> wrote:

> On 9/22/2008 1:25 PM PT, Ant typed:
> 
>>>> Is it me or does an updated Office 2000 SP3's Word cannot recognize and
>>>> read Office Mac 2008's Word docx files that have Chinese characters in
>>>> filenames (e.g., test???.docx)? If I rename the filename to English
>>>> texts only, then no problems and old Word can recognize the file format
>>>> (Word 2007). Office 2000 was in Windows XP Pro. SP3 machine with NTFS.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On the MS site there are converters for Office 2007 file formats but I
>>> can't remember whether they are available for Office 2000 and 2003 or
>>> 2003 only :-\
>> 
>> They're for 2000 too. I have those already. I found out it happens with
>> the same Word 2000 format when saving and opening a new document. So, it
>> is not related to Office Mac 2008. It seems like Office 2000 doesn't
>> like asian filenames. :(
> 
> Here's a screen shot of the error I forgot to share in my past reply:
> http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/4858/word2000docby4.gif ...

It could possibly be a font issue???

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones 
[MVP] Office:Mac

On 9/22/2008 2:14 PM PT, CyberTaz typed:

> 
> 
> On 9/22/08 4:56 PM, in article eTv5jWPHJHA.4232@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl, "Ant"
> <philpi@earthlink.netANT> wrote:
> 
>> On 9/22/2008 1:25 PM PT, Ant typed:
>>
>>>>> Is it me or does an updated Office 2000 SP3's Word cannot recognize and
>>>>> read Office Mac 2008's Word docx files that have Chinese characters in
>>>>> filenames (e.g., test???.docx)? If I rename the filename to English
>>>>> texts only, then no problems and old Word can recognize the file format
>>>>> (Word 2007). Office 2000 was in Windows XP Pro. SP3 machine with NTFS.
>>>>
>>>> On the MS site there are converters for Office 2007 file formats but I
>>>> can't remember whether they are available for Office 2000 and 2003 or
>>>> 2003 only :-\
>>> They're for 2000 too. I have those already. I found out it happens with
>>> the same Word 2000 format when saving and opening a new document. So, it
>>> is not related to Office Mac 2008. It seems like Office 2000 doesn't
>>> like asian filenames. :(
>> Here's a screen shot of the error I forgot to share in my past reply:
>> http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/4858/word2000docby4.gif ...
> 
> It could possibly be a font issue???

What fonts am I missing? I can display Chinese characters in Web pages 
online, inside documents, etc.
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Well, it's just a thought :-) The OS uses designated fonts for specific
purposes - file names as well as menu displays, dialogs, etc. Which ones are
used for what by Win XP as defaults I'm not sure, but they're usually very
basic. If the required characters aren't in the font the name can't be
provided accurately to the app trying to read the file name. Based on your
description it sounds like that could be the case... Does the name display
correctly in a Windows Explorer window or on the Windows Desktop? Can you
effectively include Chinese characters in file names on the PC?

There may be more direct commentary in one of the PC Word newsgroups:

http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/FlyoutOverview.mspx

Regards |:>)
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On 9/22/08 6:58 PM, in article uosSqaQHJHA.3456@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl, "Ant"
<philpi@earthlink.netANT> wrote:

> On 9/22/2008 2:14 PM PT, CyberTaz typed:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 9/22/08 4:56 PM, in article eTv5jWPHJHA.4232@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl, "Ant"
>> <philpi@earthlink.netANT> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 9/22/2008 1:25 PM PT, Ant typed:
>>> 
>>>>>> Is it me or does an updated Office 2000 SP3's Word cannot recognize and
>>>>>> read Office Mac 2008's Word docx files that have Chinese characters in
>>>>>> filenames (e.g., test???.docx)? If I rename the filename to English
>>>>>> texts only, then no problems and old Word can recognize the file format
>>>>>> (Word 2007). Office 2000 was in Windows XP Pro. SP3 machine with NTFS.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On the MS site there are converters for Office 2007 file formats but I
>>>>> can't remember whether they are available for Office 2000 and 2003 or
>>>>> 2003 only :-\
>>>> They're for 2000 too. I have those already. I found out it happens with
>>>> the same Word 2000 format when saving and opening a new document. So, it
>>>> is not related to Office Mac 2008. It seems like Office 2000 doesn't
>>>> like asian filenames. :(
>>> Here's a screen shot of the error I forgot to share in my past reply:
>>> http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/4858/word2000docby4.gif ...
>> 
>> It could possibly be a font issue???
> 
> What fonts am I missing? I can display Chinese characters in Web pages
> online, inside documents, etc.

test土白王.doc (removed its x for now) can be displayed properly in 
Windows XP's Explorer. I tried making a new blank Word document on 
desktop and then tried opening it, but Word 2000 refused (same error as 
shown in http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/4858/word2000docby4.gif ). 
:( I removed the Chinese characters to show test.doc and had no problems.


On 9/23/2008 3:37 AM PT, CyberTaz typed:

> Well, it's just a thought :-) The OS uses designated fonts for specific
> purposes - file names as well as menu displays, dialogs, etc. Which ones are
> used for what by Win XP as defaults I'm not sure, but they're usually very
> basic. If the required characters aren't in the font the name can't be
> provided accurately to the app trying to read the file name. Based on your
> description it sounds like that could be the case... Does the name display
> correctly in a Windows Explorer window or on the Windows Desktop? Can you
> effectively include Chinese characters in file names on the PC?
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Then it sounds like Windows has outgrown Office 2007 just as OS X has
outgrown Office 2004 with respect to Unicode fonts. Perhaps the OS is
allowing the use of characters in filenames that the programs aren't able to
recognize as legitimate. Curious that should be the case, though.

Thanks for the feedback :-)

Regards |:>)
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[MVP] Office:Mac



On 9/24/08 12:20 AM, in article eqOLmzfHJHA.728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl, "Ant"
<philpi@earthlink.netANT> wrote:

> test$BEZGr2&(B.doc (removed its x for now) can be displayed properly in
> Windows XP's Explorer. I tried making a new blank Word document on
> desktop and then tried opening it, but Word 2000 refused (same error as
> shown in http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/4858/word2000docby4.gif ).
> :( I removed the Chinese characters to show test.doc and had no problems.
> 
> 
> On 9/23/2008 3:37 AM PT, CyberTaz typed:
> 
>> Well, it's just a thought :-) The OS uses designated fonts for specific
>> purposes - file names as well as menu displays, dialogs, etc. Which ones are
>> used for what by Win XP as defaults I'm not sure, but they're usually very
>> basic. If the required characters aren't in the font the name can't be
>> provided accurately to the app trying to read the file name. Based on your
>> description it sounds like that could be the case... Does the name display
>> correctly in a Windows Explorer window or on the Windows Desktop? Can you
>> effectively include Chinese characters in file names on the PC?

Oops!!! Typo - that was meant to refer to Office 2000 %>}

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones 
[MVP] Office:Mac



On 9/24/08 2:55 PM, in article C500054A.4380E%onlygeneraltaz1@com.cast.net,
"CyberTaz"  wrote:

> Then it sounds like Windows has outgrown Office 2007 just as OS X has
> outgrown Office 2004 with respect to Unicode fonts. Perhaps the OS is
> allowing the use of characters in filenames that the programs aren't able to
> recognize as legitimate. Curious that should be the case, though.
> 
> Thanks for the feedback :-)
> 
> Regards |:>)
> Bob Jones 
> [MVP] Office:Mac
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/24/08 12:20 AM, in article eqOLmzfHJHA.728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl, "Ant"
> <philpi@earthlink.netANT> wrote:
> 
>> test$BEZGr2&(B.doc (removed its x for now) can be displayed properly in
>> Windows XP's Explorer. I tried making a new blank Word document on
>> desktop and then tried opening it, but Word 2000 refused (same error as
>> shown in http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/4858/word2000docby4.gif ).
>> :( I removed the Chinese characters to show test.doc and had no problems.
>> 
>> 
>> On 9/23/2008 3:37 AM PT, CyberTaz typed:
>> 
>>> Well, it's just a thought :-) The OS uses designated fonts for specific
>>> purposes - file names as well as menu displays, dialogs, etc. Which ones are
>>> used for what by Win XP as defaults I'm not sure, but they're usually very
>>> basic. If the required characters aren't in the font the name can't be
>>> provided accurately to the app trying to read the file name. Based on your
>>> description it sounds like that could be the case... Does the name display
>>> correctly in a Windows Explorer window or on the Windows Desktop? Can you
>>> effectively include Chinese characters in file names on the PC?
>