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date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:29:18 -0700,
group: microsoft.public.mac.office
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Re: update 2008 12.1.2
Looking at the majority of the posts, if you followed the steps and were looking at the item I was talking about (/Applications/Microsoft Office 2008/Office/Microsoft Office Setup Assistant), then you or someone with access to your machine has run some program which is changing the original Office install.
The updater has specific checks to insure that the Office copy installed is a version that needs to be upgraded. One of those checks is in the Office Setup Assistant, and as the majority of you reported you do not have the Plugins folder in the application much less the items in that should be in that folder. If that application (Microsoft Office Setup Assistant) is not correct, then we cannot/will not assume that you have a proper install of Office.
I am sorry I have to ask you to reinstall, but you have made unsupported changes to the Office install and the result is that Office cannot be updated.
If you have the plugins folder, then please let me know what folders you have in SLT.bundle and we can examine further.
If you have a different install issue (as some allude to here), please give me a full description and I will endeavor to get you a response.
I don't want to just give workarounds, I want to alert you to what is going on and why. As it does none of any good to go over this every month, it is important to me that you understand the cause so that future updates can go smoothly (either if we have missed something OR if there is something going on with your machine and we can keep that from happening in the future).
Thanks
David
date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:32:42 -0700
author: Microsoft MacBU David Pelton
Re: update 2008 12.1.2
Hi David -
Thanks for posting the information. Hopefully it will be as helpful as
intended. Oddly enough I was wondering just this morning - gas prices being
what they are - how many people also might be ripping parts out of their
vehicles to lighten its weight in an effort to get .5 mpg better gas mileage
then turn around & b**ch at the mfr when the d***ed thing won't run :-)
Just for the record: About 10 minutes ago I completed downloading &
installing both the 11.5.1 & 12.1.2 updates. Both applied with *no* problem
or hesitation & all apps are running as they should. Although I fully
appreciate the frustration some are expressing I hope at least some will
realize that even if there are 50... 500 separate reports of failures there
are 10s of thousands of others that are succeeding - unfortunately, those
who have no problem don't usually take the time to stop by & mention it.
Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
On 8/13/08 12:32 PM, in article 59b56b57.29@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw,
"Microsoft MacBU David Pelton " <> wrote:
> Looking at the majority of the posts, if you followed the steps and were
> looking at the item I was talking about (/Applications/Microsoft Office
> 2008/Office/Microsoft Office Setup Assistant), then you or someone with access
> to your machine has run some program which is changing the original Office
> install.
>
> The updater has specific checks to insure that the Office copy installed is a
> version that needs to be upgraded. One of those checks is in the Office Setup
> Assistant, and as the majority of you reported you do not have the Plugins
> folder in the application much less the items in that should be in that
> folder. If that application (Microsoft Office Setup Assistant) is not correct,
> then we cannot/will not assume that you have a proper install of Office.
>
> I am sorry I have to ask you to reinstall, but you have made unsupported
> changes to the Office install and the result is that Office cannot be updated.
>
> If you have the plugins folder, then please let me know what folders you have
> in SLT.bundle and we can examine further.
>
> If you have a different install issue (as some allude to here), please give me
> a full description and I will endeavor to get you a response.
>
> I don't want to just give workarounds, I want to alert you to what is going on
> and why. As it does none of any good to go over this every month, it is
> important to me that you understand the cause so that future updates can go
> smoothly (either if we have missed something OR if there is something going on
> with your machine and we can keep that from happening in the future).
>
> Thanks
>
> David
date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:41:42 -0400
author: CyberTaz
Re: update 2008 12.1.2
Thanks Phillip, that was what I was looking to see. For those wondering why I didn't type that myself - I have often found it is easy to miss one of these items if you are comparing lists rather than typing it yourself.
Please make sure that each folder has the following four items in it (they should all have the same date): Localizable.strings, License.rtf, License_error.rtf, InfoPlist.strings.
If that is all good, then we need to look at the other items that have been issues in the past:
1) Did you restart after the last update you installed before trying update 12.1.1? The issue here is that there is a temp file location that is written to when the installation takes place, and the Apple Installer does not always clean up after itself. Thus when the next updater runs, it tries to write to that same location, but cannot because the location is locked. A restart will clear that temp space and allow the next update to work.
2) Where is office located on your machine?
3) What is the name of the Microsoft Office folder?
4) What is the name of the various applications in the Microsoft Office folder?
5) If you launch one of the four main Microsoft Office applications, can you tell me what version number is listed in the about box (both the version number of the application - including what is in the paranthesis - and the last update version number)?
I look forward to hearing back from you, and seeing where you are having the issue and how we can stop this from happening to you with each release.
David
PS - anyone can put their email address in their post and I will write you separately to chase down your issue with Installation issues ONLY.
Also, it was my wife's birthday yesterday, so I am now offline for the next 9 hours as I take her out to celebrate it.
date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:02:21 -0700
author: Microsoft MacBU David Pelton
Clarify files in SLT bundle
David, I'm trying to summarize the problems users were experiencing this
week. When I follow the directions below you posted on the Office newsgroup,
when I get to the SLT.bundle, I'm not seeing the four files you mentioned.
> Please make sure that each folder has the following four items in it (they
> should all have the same date): Localizable.strings, License.rtf,
> License_error.rtf, InfoPlist.strings.
"/Applications/Microsoft Office 2008/Office/Microsoft Office Setup
Assistant.app/Contents/PlugIns/SLT.bundle/Contents"
Mine shows this:
If this is not correct, can you send me a screenshot of a correct install?
What exactly causes the wrong files to be listed? Modification to Office or
the OS?? Is the only solution to re-install and update? I¹m a bit
confused....
--
Diane
"Microsoft MacBU David Pelton " wrote:
> I am sorry you are seeing this. There are numerous reasons that you may be
> seeing this. If you would like we can try to deal with them here - and it
> might help others. Or if you want to post your email address, I can write you
> directly.
>
> I am going to look at one of the most common reasons for this first. Could you
> go to the Office folder inside the Microsoft Office 2008 folder, and scroll
> through the items until you come to the Microsoft Office Setup Assistant? When
> you find this item, please right mouse click (or use control + Click) and from
> the contextual menu choose "Show Package Contents".
>
> In the window that appears you will see a folder called "Contents", and in
> that is one called "PlugIns", and in that folder is an item called SLT.bundle
> - please click on that.
>
> When you find SLT.bundle, please right mouse click (or use control + Click)
> and from the contextual menu choose "Show Package Contents".
>
> Can you please reply back to the list with what you find in there (just the
> names of the folders is fine)?
>
> Thanks
>
> David
date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 15:47:33 -0700
author: Diane Ross
Re: update 2008 12.1.2
David, I tried to get into the Plugins folder as you suggested and I do
not find a file called SLT.bundle, I do have CEIP.bundle, GetStarted.bundle,
ProductKey.bundle, UserInfo.bundle I have also been unsuccessful installing
12.1.2 despite multiple attempts, including reinstalling the entire Office
package. I am running latest Leopard OS on a 24 inch IMAC. Any further
suggestions would be wonderful. Thanks,
Mike
I am sorry you are seeing this. There are numerous reasons that you may be seeing this. If you would like we can try to deal with them here - and it might help others. Or if you want to post your email address, I can write you directly.
I am going to look at one of the most common reasons for this first. Could
you go to the Office folder inside the Microsoft Office 2008 folder, and
scroll through the items until you come to the Microsoft Office Setup
Assistant? When you find this item, please right mouse click (or use control
+ Click) and from the contextual menu choose "Show Package Contents".
In the window that appears you will see a folder called "Contents", and
in that is one called "PlugIns", and in that folder is an item called
SLT.bundle - please click on that.
When you find SLT.bundle, please right mouse click (or use control + Click)
and from the contextual menu choose "Show Package Contents".
Can you please reply back to the list with what you find in there (just
the names of the folders is fine)?
Thanks
David
date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 21:29:22 -0700
author: Mike
Re: update 2008 12.1.2
"Mike" wrote:
> David, I tried to get into the Plugins folder as you suggested and I do not
> find a file called SLT.bundle, I do have CEIP.bundle, GetStarted.bundle,
> ProductKey.bundle, UserInfo.bundle I have also been unsuccessful installing
> 12.1.2 despite multiple attempts, including reinstalling the entire Office
> package. I am running latest Leopard OS on a 24 inch IMAC. Any further
> suggestions would be wonderful. Thanks,
If this file is missing you have a bad install. I know you said you did a
re-install, but did you run the Apple combo first, install with all
applications closed, restart to clear caches? If you did not quit all
applications this could have caused the failed install.
See this post for some helpful tips:
Hot topics for installing 12.1.2 updater (The Entourage Help Blog)
<http://blog.entourage.mvps.org/2008/08/hot_topics_for_installing_1212_updat
er.html>
For anyone having problems and need help with verifying see:
>
Verify Office Files Were Modified
<http://www.entourage.mvps.org/error/verify.html>
How to Install Office 2008:
<http://www.entourage.mvps.org/install/install_office2008.html>
Let me know if you get installed?
--
Diane
date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 12:44:41 -0700
author: Diane Ross
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