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date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 04:34:51 -0700,    group: microsoft.public.mac.office        back       


How to set default formatting for pictures   
Version: 2008
Operating System: Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard)
Processor: Intel

When I drop a screen capture into Word, it always puts it where I drop it. I guess it is automatically anchoring it.

What I would like it to do it put it in at the insertion point, left justified, under the previous line.

To get it to do this, I have to double-click each picture, select "Layout", choose Wrapping Style "In line with text" then choose radio "Horizontal Alignment Left", then click button "Advanced", and select Radio "Alignment" in the "Vertical" group, then for "relative to" select "Line", then click two OK buttons. That is 11 steps. Seems like a lot.

In Word 2003 on Windows, it did what I wanted with no clicks. I believe that was the default behaviour, which was perfect.

Is there a way that I can get this to be the default behavour for dropped images?

Also, I accidentally managed to get a border around one of them, but I cannot figure out where I did it. The documentation mentions Quick Styles and Effects, but I cannot find that anywhere. I think it was in the Toolbox, but it is not there now. I think I am going insane....
PG.
date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 04:34:51 -0700   author:   unknown

Re: How to set default formatting for pictures   
> When I drop a screen capture into Word, it always puts it where I drop it. I
> guess it is automatically anchoring it.
> 
> What I would like it to do it put it in at the insertion point, left
> justified, under the previous line.
> 
> To get it to do this, I have to double-click each picture, select "Layout",
> choose Wrapping Style "In line with text" then choose radio "Horizontal
> Alignment Left", then click button "Advanced", and select Radio "Alignment" in
> the "Vertical" group, then for "relative to" select "Line", then click two OK
> buttons. That is 11 steps. Seems like a lot.
> 
> In Word 2003 on Windows, it did what I wanted with no clicks. I believe that
> was the default behaviour, which was perfect.
> 
> Is there a way that I can get this to be the default behavour for dropped
> images?

In Word's preferences (Edit section), you can specify how Word should deal
with pictures. The setting you are after is "In line with text"

> Also, I accidentally managed to get a border around one of them, but I cannot
> figure out where I did it. The documentation mentions Quick Styles and
> Effects, but I cannot find that anywhere. I think it was in the Toolbox, but
> it is not there now. I think I am going insane....
> PG.

You can add borders with just one click by using QuickStyles. These are
available in the Formatting Palette (View>Formatting Palette) as soon as you
select a picture.

-- 
Michel Bintener
Microsoft MVP
Office:mac (Entourage & Word)

*** Please always reply to the newsgroup. ***
date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:36:46 +0200   author:   Michel Bintener

Re: How to set default formatting for pictures   
Michael,
Thank you for your reply. I truly appreciate it.

I already have the "In line with text" option set, but it does not seem to make any difference.
I am capturing the screen frags with something called FlySketch, which seems to use Grab.
Then I do a command-drag to drop into Word.

However, I have just had a lightbulb moment. If I copy Command-C then Command-V it works as required!
However, if I command-drag then drop, (which is what I do with Pages, for example) then it seems to always to an anchored placement. It is ignoring the Prime Directive to put the text in line (which may be the way it is meant to work, but is sure is confusing...)

My problem with the borders is related. I get Quickstyles for things that I have CmdC-CmdV'd, but not for things that I have dropped.

So, I have a workaround. The question now is, do you have a bug? ;-)

Thanks again for your help,
Russ.
date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:37:16 -0700   author:   unknown

Re: How to set default formatting for pictures   
Michael,
My apologies for associating you with The Beast in my last paragraph. I just googled MVP and Lo! Wikipedia has an entry which explains all. My last para should read:

So, I have a workaround. The question is now, do THEY have a bug?
date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:44:11 -0700   author:   unknown

Re: How to set default formatting for pictures   
No bug - You're getting different behaviors because you're using different
methods, thereby creating different types of objects. Command-Dragging
bypasses the clipboard, whereas copy/paste involves it.
 
BTW - Having seen your other reply re MVPs: I'm sure Michel wasn't offended
by your previous inference, but he'd probably appreciate it if you'd spell
his name correctly - no "a" :-)

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones 
[MVP] Office:Mac



On 7/28/08 6:37 PM, in article 59b55586.1@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw,
"PloughGuy@officeformac.com"  wrote:

> Michael,
> Thank you for your reply. I truly appreciate it.
> 
> I already have the "In line with text" option set, but it does not seem to
> make any difference.
> I am capturing the screen frags with something called FlySketch, which seems
> to use Grab.
> Then I do a command-drag to drop into Word.
> 
> However, I have just had a lightbulb moment. If I copy Command-C then
> Command-V it works as required!
> However, if I command-drag then drop, (which is what I do with Pages, for
> example) then it seems to always to an anchored placement. It is ignoring the
> Prime Directive to put the text in line (which may be the way it is meant to
> work, but is sure is confusing...)
> 
> My problem with the borders is related. I get Quickstyles for things that I
> have CmdC-CmdV'd, but not for things that I have dropped.
> 
> So, I have a workaround. The question now is, do you have a bug? ;-)
> 
> Thanks again for your help,
> Russ.
date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 01:20:22 -0400   author:   CyberTaz

Re: How to set default formatting for pictures   
Goodness me, when will I stop?
Michel, my apologies for the mis-spelling. Please feel free to address me as "PlowGuy" in compensation.

Bob,
I feel that the means of delivery (clipboard vs DnD) shouldn't make a difference. An image is an image, and they should be treated the same, whether I paste, drop, or load from a file.

And if you don't agree, I will mis-spell _your_ name and accuse you of working for the government.
Rus.
date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 01:28:38 -0700   author:   unknown

Re: How to set default formatting for pictures   
Hi Rus -

He's really a rather pleasant guy so I doubt he'll be prone to retaliate :-)

Some comments below:

On 7/29/08 4:28 AM, in article 59b55586.4@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw,
"PloughGuy@officeformac.com"  wrote:

> Goodness me, when will I stop?
> Michel, my apologies for the mis-spelling. Please feel free to address me as
> "PlowGuy" in compensation.
> 
> Bob,
> I feel that the means of delivery (clipboard vs DnD) shouldn't make a
> difference. An image is an image,

I'm afraid that's just not true, although it is a very common misconception.
Images are far more complex & varied than most have any reason to suspect -
but it's as deceptive as watching Tiger Woods shoot a 64 round & assuming
that golf must be a pretty easy game no matter how you approach it. There
are literally dozens of image file formats, each one having its own
characteristics which sharply distinguish it from each of the others as far
as the computer is concerned.

> and they should be treated the same, whether
> I paste, drop, or load from a file.

Perhaps they "should", but for the reason stated above they *can't* be.

An image is essentially a foreign body being placed in a file created by a
totally different type of program & having a completely different file
structure. When you use the host program's Insert command its import filters
are employed which enable it to better interpret what that foreign body is
all about. Likewise, when an image is copied to the clipboard there's
actually far more information included than just what the eye can clearly
see. But when you paste, the receiving app *can* see it and can also
"absorb" what it needs to better interpret it along with the actual image.

When you use the drag 'n' drop method you bypass all of that interpretive
capability... It's much the same as having a complex piece of equipment
delivered by a professional who effectively trains you to use it as opposed
to having it dumped on your doorstep along with a not that reads "figure it
out for yourself".

> 
> And if you don't agree, I will mis-spell _your_ name and accuse you of working
> for the government.
> Rus.

You'd best be careful - that *might* be closer to the truth than you
think... But *which* - and *how many* governments??? And in what capacity???

... And what might I be forced to do if you blow my cover???????:-)

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones 
[MVP] Office:Mac
date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:59:50 -0400   author:   CyberTaz

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