Version: 2008 Operating System: Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard) Processor: intel Just thought I would share what I have noticed with fonts installed by the Office 2008 installer. - Office 2008 installs all it's fonts into \Library\Fonts\Microsoft. - The following lists fonts installed by Office 2008 that already exist in the system \Library\Fonts folder Andale Mono Arial Arial Black Arial Narrow Arial Rounded Bold Comic Sans MS Georgia Impact Tahoma Times New Roman Trebuchet MS Verdana Wingdings Wingdings 2 Wingdings 3 - The remaining 108 fonts Office 2008 installs (which I have not listed) are not duplicates of the standard system fonts. - The installer leaves the Mac OS X versions where they are, but disables them. This is reflected by Font Book, which can be used to view the folder locations of the disabled or enabled fonts. - The one exception is Wingdings. It does not disable the system version. Font Book shows both as enabled under 'Wingdings' showing two styles called Regular. The microsoft version is TT. The system version is a font suitcase. - When using Font Book to validate all fonts on the system, it flags the above fonts as having errors. The error reported is only that it is a duplicate font. As the dupicates are not enabled, this is fairly safe. I am looking to deploy Extensis Universal Type Server and it's recommended I disable any functionality of Font Book. Therefore it made sense to me to get rid of any fonts that were disabled by Font Book. This would mean making the decision to remove the Office 2008 or Mac OS X fonts as listed above. I would say the Mac OS X fonts are more important to keep and potentially dangerous if removed from \Library\Fonts. I used Font Book to remove these fonts and retrieved them from the trash to backup somewhere in case of an issue. In removing the above list of fonts from \Library\Fonts\Microsoft, I haven't encountered any issues with the Office applications in my brief testing. All applications function and don't show any signs of font substitution within the application itself. Happy to hear from anyone that would like to share any additional information or point out an issue with removing these fonts.
"dhiggs@officeformac.com" wrote: > Happy to hear from anyone that would like to share any additional information > or point out an issue with removing these fonts. Font Facts: Despite the version number, many (if not all) of the MSFT fonts are newer than the Apple OS ones. Office 2008 does not need ANY of its fonts to "run." However, various features of Office 2008 will be broken or display poorly unless you leave the fonts it installs in place. Office 2008 relies on up-to-date Unicode versions of fonts that support ligatures and faces. Its own font set has been updated to provide these capabilities. I would caution you not to disable the Chinese/Japanese fonts. These are required to produce certain special characters. -- Diane
Interesting, as I'm finding the opposite as I start looking into this a bit more. Let's take Arial for example, looking at the Regular style. Font Book reports the system font is a higher version than that installed by Office 2008. Looking at the repertoire, the system font shows a much larger set of character sets than the Office 2008 version installed in \Library\Fonts\Microsoft. This is the case for 4 others I have looked at and maybe all. Is it possible that Mac OS X 10.5.x now has font versions which are now above those of Office 2008? I'm wondering if the information you have might pertain to Mac OS X 10.4.x I think i'm getting myself in too deep :)
"dhiggs@officeformac.com" wrote: > This is the case for 4 others I have looked at and maybe all. Is it possible > that Mac OS X 10.5.x now has font versions which are now above those of Office > 2008? I'm wondering if the information you have might pertain to Mac OS X > 10.4.x > > I think i'm getting myself in too deep :) It is possible things have changed. I would leave your fonts alone and stop mucking around. :-) -- Diane
On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 01:18:56 -0400, Diane Ross wrote: > "dhiggs@officeformac.com" wrote: > >> This is the case for 4 others I have looked at and maybe all. Is it >> possible that Mac OS X 10.5.x now has font versions which are now above >> those of Office 2008? I'm wondering if the information you have might >> pertain to Mac OS X 10.4.x >> >> I think i'm getting myself in too deep :) > > It is possible things have changed. I would leave your fonts alone and stop > mucking around. :-) > Sometimes, however, requirements of the publishing situation require one to dig down to the details and sort things out.
