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date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 20:03:32 +0200,    group: microsoft.public.win32.programmer.messaging        back       


Is ECE still the technology to use   
In an Outlook - Exchange environment I need to create a custom message class 
(IPM.Note.MyClass) that is to be displayed in a custom form.
I also need to add menus and buttons to Outlook, and to for example be 
notified when receiving messages in Outlook.
I know it can be done using Exchange Client Extension but is this still the 
technology to use.
The following indicates that it's not the way to go.
- You need Exchange SDK 5.5 to use the Exchange Client Extension (Not part 
of Exchange SDK 2000 or 2003).
- The following statement from Ken Slovak 
http://office-outlook.com/outlook-forum/index.php/m/269554/#msg_269554
    "The plans are to not support ECE's in Outlook 14. So writing a new ECE 
at this point will limit the code to Outlook 2007 and earlier."


But what to use instead if ECE is not the technology to use ?

/Mads
date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 20:03:32 +0200   author:   Mads Torp Jacobsen

Re: Is ECE still the technology to use   
Use COM add-ins: supported in Outlook 2000 and up.
-- 
Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
http://www.dimastr.com/
OutlookSpy  - Outlook, CDO
and MAPI Developer Tool
-
"Mads Torp Jacobsen"  wrote in message 
news:u3sQeAI2IHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> In an Outlook - Exchange environment I need to create a custom message 
> class (IPM.Note.MyClass) that is to be displayed in a custom form.
> I also need to add menus and buttons to Outlook, and to for example be 
> notified when receiving messages in Outlook.
> I know it can be done using Exchange Client Extension but is this still 
> the technology to use.
> The following indicates that it's not the way to go.
> - You need Exchange SDK 5.5 to use the Exchange Client Extension (Not part 
> of Exchange SDK 2000 or 2003).
> - The following statement from Ken Slovak 
> http://office-outlook.com/outlook-forum/index.php/m/269554/#msg_269554
>    "The plans are to not support ECE's in Outlook 14. So writing a new ECE 
> at this point will limit the code to Outlook 2007 and earlier."
>
>
> But what to use instead if ECE is not the technology to use ?
>
> /Mads
>
>
date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:36:03 -0700   author:   Dmitry Streblechenko

Re: Is ECE still the technology to use   
Do you know of any good webpages about how to use COM add-ins instead of 
ECE. For example  to create a custom message class.
I have tried to google the subject but no luck so far.

/Mads

"Dmitry Streblechenko"  skrev i en meddelelse 
news:eyb6vYK2IHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Use COM add-ins: supported in Outlook 2000 and up.
> -- 
> Dmitry Streblechenko (MVP)
> http://www.dimastr.com/
> OutlookSpy  - Outlook, CDO
> and MAPI Developer Tool
> -
> "Mads Torp Jacobsen"  wrote in message 
> news:u3sQeAI2IHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> In an Outlook - Exchange environment I need to create a custom message 
>> class (IPM.Note.MyClass) that is to be displayed in a custom form.
>> I also need to add menus and buttons to Outlook, and to for example be 
>> notified when receiving messages in Outlook.
>> I know it can be done using Exchange Client Extension but is this still 
>> the technology to use.
>> The following indicates that it's not the way to go.
>> - You need Exchange SDK 5.5 to use the Exchange Client Extension (Not 
>> part of Exchange SDK 2000 or 2003).
>> - The following statement from Ken Slovak 
>> http://office-outlook.com/outlook-forum/index.php/m/269554/#msg_269554
>>    "The plans are to not support ECE's in Outlook 14. So writing a new 
>> ECE at this point will limit the code to Outlook 2007 and earlier."
>>
>>
>> But what to use instead if ECE is not the technology to use ?
>>
>> /Mads
>>
>>
>
>
date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:59:54 +0200   author:   Mads Torp Jacobsen

Re: Is ECE still the technology to use   
Start at www.outlookcode.com. If you tell us which language and development 
platform you plan to use, and what versions of Outlook you plan to support 
we could be more specific.

-- 
Ken Slovak
[MVP - Outlook]
http://www.slovaktech.com
Author: Professional Programming Outlook 2007.
Reminder Manager, Extended Reminders, Attachment Options.
http://www.slovaktech.com/products.htm


"Mads Torp Jacobsen"  wrote in message 
news:uF61j%23S2IHA.4852@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Do you know of any good webpages about how to use COM add-ins instead of 
> ECE. For example  to create a custom message class.
> I have tried to google the subject but no luck so far.
>
> /Mads
date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 12:48:04 -0400   author:   Ken Slovak - [MVP - Outlook]

Re: Is ECE still the technology to use   
Hi Mads,

> Do you know of any good webpages about how to use COM add-ins instead
> of ECE. For example  to create a custom message class.
> I have tried to google the subject but no luck so far.

Neither ECE nor COM addins can implement custom message classes.
You need to use either Outlook forms or implement a MAPI form server.
Here is a starter:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms527920(EXCHG.10).aspx

--
SvenC
date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 23:12:10 +0200   author:   SvenC am

Re: Is ECE still the technology to use   
On 28 jun, 23:12, "SvenC" <Sv...@nospam.nospam> wrote:
> Hi Mads,
>
> > Do you know of any good webpages about how to use COM add-ins instead
> > of ECE. For example  to create a custom message class.
> > I have tried to google the subject but no luck so far.
>
> Neither ECE nor COM addins can implement custom message classes.
> You need to use either Outlook forms or implement a MAPI form server.
> Here is a starter:http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms527920(EXCHG.10).aspx
>
> --
> SvenC

Hi,

True for the forms, nevertheless, for any other functionalities
related to Outlook, I strongly recommend Redemption, written by Dmitry
Streblechenko, whose webpage you'll find in his message.

He's probably one of the best Outlook/exchange gurus around these days.
date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 04:43:50 -0700 (PDT)   author:   patochem

Re: Is ECE still the technology to use   
Hi patochem,

> On 28 jun, 23:12, "SvenC" <Sv...@nospam.nospam> wrote:
>> Hi Mads,
>> 
>>> Do you know of any good webpages about how to use COM add-ins
>>> instead of ECE. For example  to create a custom message class.
>>> I have tried to google the subject but no luck so far.
>> 
>> Neither ECE nor COM addins can implement custom message classes.
>> You need to use either Outlook forms or implement a MAPI form server.
>> Here is a
>> starter:http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms527920(EXCHG.10).aspx
> 
> True for the forms, nevertheless, for any other functionalities
> related to Outlook, I strongly recommend Redemption, written by Dmitry
> Streblechenko, whose webpage you'll find in his message.

That will only help when developing Outlook forms not for developing
MAPI forms. And the OP seems to be confused what a COM Addin or ECE
can do for him.

> He's probably one of the best Outlook/exchange gurus around these
> days. 

Absolutely!

--
SvenC
date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 15:00:31 +0200   author:   SvenC am

Re: Is ECE still the technology to use   
Visual Studio and C++ is to be used, and I must support outlook 2000, 2003 
and 2007 (for now).

Regarding language C++/CLI (or even C#) could also be the solution depending 
on the benefits of changing.

/Mads

"Ken Slovak - [MVP - Outlook]"  skrev i en meddelelse 
news:uXBcB7T2IHA.5944@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Start at www.outlookcode.com. If you tell us which language and 
> development platform you plan to use, and what versions of Outlook you 
> plan to support we could be more specific.
>
> -- 
> Ken Slovak
> [MVP - Outlook]
> http://www.slovaktech.com
> Author: Professional Programming Outlook 2007.
> Reminder Manager, Extended Reminders, Attachment Options.
> http://www.slovaktech.com/products.htm
>
>
> "Mads Torp Jacobsen"  wrote in message 
> news:uF61j%23S2IHA.4852@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Do you know of any good webpages about how to use COM add-ins instead of 
>> ECE. For example  to create a custom message class.
>> I have tried to google the subject but no luck so far.
>>
>> /Mads
>
date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 18:57:35 +0200   author:   Mads Torp Jacobsen

Re: Is ECE still the technology to use   
There isn't that much out there with C++ examples for Outlook COM addins, 
some samples are on outlookcode.com or are referenced there. Most of the 
samples out there are variations of VB or C#.

-- 
Ken Slovak
[MVP - Outlook]
http://www.slovaktech.com
Author: Professional Programming Outlook 2007.
Reminder Manager, Extended Reminders, Attachment Options.
http://www.slovaktech.com/products.htm


"Mads Torp Jacobsen"  wrote in message 
news:Oh0lSKF4IHA.2336@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Visual Studio and C++ is to be used, and I must support outlook 2000, 2003 
> and 2007 (for now).
>
> Regarding language C++/CLI (or even C#) could also be the solution 
> depending on the benefits of changing.
>
> /Mads
date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 15:13:13 -0400   author:   Ken Slovak - [MVP - Outlook]

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