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date: Wed, 31 May 2006 06:26:02 -0700,    group: microsoft.public.win32.programmer.directx.sdk        back       


redistribution   
Hi.
My application requires the DirectX managed runtime end user files.
I was told before that I can bundle in the webinstaller in my application 
(dxwebsetup) if the user does not have these files.

is this true? I just want to confirm.

Thanks!
date: Wed, 31 May 2006 06:26:02 -0700   author:   Ahmed Ilyas

Re: redistribution   
On Wed, 31 May 2006 06:26:02 -0700, Ahmed Ilyas wrote:

> My application requires the DirectX managed runtime end user files.
> I was told before that I can bundle in the webinstaller in my application 
> (dxwebsetup) if the user does not have these files.
> 
> is this true? I just want to confirm.

The DX end-user download page seems to answer the question:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=FB73D860-5AF1-45E5-BAC0-9BC7A5254203&displaylang=en

or have I missed something?

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date: Wed, 31 May 2006 09:39:31 -0600   author:   The March Hare [MVP]

Re: redistribution   
On Wed, 31 May 2006 09:39:31 -0600, The March Hare [MVP] wrote:

> The DX end-user download page seems to answer the question:
> 
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=FB73D860-5AF1-45E5-BAC0-9BC7A5254203&displaylang=en
> 
> or have I missed something?

In case you miss the part about web setup in the above link, the following
link does cover the case where you want to run DX setup from the web.  It
does require WGA: 

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=2DA43D38-DB71-4C1B-BC6A-9B6652CD92A3&displaylang=en

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date: Wed, 31 May 2006 09:49:19 -0600   author:   The March Hare [MVP]

Re: redistribution   
Thank-you for your reply.

I was already aware of the links however I still need confirmation:

I am unable to include the 50MB+ of the DirectX SDK in my application. 
I am able to include the DirectX EndUser Runtime Web Installer. I know this 
requires WGA from the link given.
I am wondering if I am allowed to download this file (dxwebsetup.exe) and 
include it within my application, so during installation it will execute.

is this allowed or not?

I could provide the link however in future, links can change. I preferred if 
everything was done within the application/included within.

I cannot include the 50MB+ for the full redistributable package as it is too 
much for my server (in terms of bandwidth when users are going to be 
downloading)

Thanks

"The March Hare [MVP]" wrote:

> On Wed, 31 May 2006 09:39:31 -0600, The March Hare [MVP] wrote:
> 
> > The DX end-user download page seems to answer the question:
> > 
> > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=FB73D860-5AF1-45E5-BAC0-9BC7A5254203&displaylang=en
> > 
> > or have I missed something?
> 
> In case you miss the part about web setup in the above link, the following
> link does cover the case where you want to run DX setup from the web.  It
> does require WGA: 
> 
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=2DA43D38-DB71-4C1B-BC6A-9B6652CD92A3&displaylang=en
> 
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date: Wed, 31 May 2006 10:37:01 -0700   author:   Ahmed Ilyas

Re: redistribution   
On Wed, 31 May 2006 10:37:01 -0700, Ahmed Ilyas wrote:

> I was already aware of the links however I still need confirmation:

It helps if you include what you already know in your original post :)

> I am wondering if I am allowed to download this file (dxwebsetup.exe) and 
> include it within my application, so during installation it will execute.
> 
> is this allowed or not?

I do not think so (but IANAL).  Did you read the EULA?  Here is what the
EULA for the web install says and I didn't find anything anywhere else that
gives you the right to put it on your installer (that's what the redist is
for):

* If you have multiple validly licensed copies of any OS Product, you may
reproduce, install and use one copy of the applicable OS Components as part
of the applicable OS product on all of your computers running validly
licensed copies of the applicable OS Product, provided that you use such
additional copies of such OS Components in accordance with the terms and
conditions above. For each validly licensed copy of the applicable OS
Product, you also may reproduce one additional copy of the applicable OS
Components solely for archival purposes or reinstallation of the OS
Components on the same computer as the OS Components were previously
installed. Microsoft retains all right, title and interest in and to the OS
Components. All rights not expressly granted are 
reserved by Microsoft. 



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date: Wed, 31 May 2006 12:00:52 -0600   author:   The March Hare [MVP]

Re: redistribution   
Thanks. I actually just found out what I can include:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/directx9_c/Installing_DirectX_with_DirectSetup.asp

I think I'm there ;-)

Thanks for your help

"The March Hare [MVP]" wrote:

> On Wed, 31 May 2006 10:37:01 -0700, Ahmed Ilyas wrote:
> 
> > I was already aware of the links however I still need confirmation:
> 
> It helps if you include what you already know in your original post :)
> 
> > I am wondering if I am allowed to download this file (dxwebsetup.exe) and 
> > include it within my application, so during installation it will execute.
> > 
> > is this allowed or not?
> 
> I do not think so (but IANAL).  Did you read the EULA?  Here is what the
> EULA for the web install says and I didn't find anything anywhere else that
> gives you the right to put it on your installer (that's what the redist is
> for):
> 
> * If you have multiple validly licensed copies of any OS Product, you may
> reproduce, install and use one copy of the applicable OS Components as part
> of the applicable OS product on all of your computers running validly
> licensed copies of the applicable OS Product, provided that you use such
> additional copies of such OS Components in accordance with the terms and
> conditions above. For each validly licensed copy of the applicable OS
> Product, you also may reproduce one additional copy of the applicable OS
> Components solely for archival purposes or reinstallation of the OS
> Components on the same computer as the OS Components were previously
> installed. Microsoft retains all right, title and interest in and to the OS
> Components. All rights not expressly granted are 
> reserved by Microsoft. 
> 
> 
> 
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date: Wed, 31 May 2006 12:02:02 -0700   author:   Ahmed Ilyas

Re: redistribution   
On Wed, 31 May 2006 12:02:02 -0700, Ahmed Ilyas wrote:

> Thanks. I actually just found out what I can include:
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/directx9_c/Installing_DirectX_with_DirectSetup.asp

Thanks for posting your resolution.  As I understand it, this is just a
customization of the redist to reduce its size, not a web setup.

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date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 10:50:52 -0600   author:   The March Hare [MVP]

Re: redistribution   
sure :)

Just now trying to find a way of telling the DirectXSetup API to install 
managed files, including the Directx.directsound.dll files as it is not 
appearing to do this and want to minimize the size of the installer I am 
distributing
date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 10:03:02 -0700   author:   Ahmed Ilyas

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