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date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 01:04:46 -0700 (PDT),    group: microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.setup        back       


Deploying .NET 2.0 SP1 via Group Policy   
Hi,

I'm trying to deploy .NET 2.0 SP1 via group policy software installs,
along with .NET 3.5. For .NET 3.5 to install successfully .NET 2.0
_SP1_ must be installed first.

I have been able to deploy .NET 1.1 SP1, .NET 2.0 (non SP1) & .NET 3.0
(non SP1) via Group Policy without any problem. However, if I try and
do the same for .NET 2.0 SP1, the install fails, the trouble is, I
can't tell why. Usually an event log for 'Application Management' is
created under the Application event log. However for this deploy, you
can see it tries to get applied, on machine start up, but quickly
disappears, and nothing appears in the event log to suggest why.

I have downloaded the .NET Framework 2.0 SP1 Redistributable Package
(x86) from the following URL:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=79bc3b77-e02c-4ad3-aacf-a7633f706ba5&displaylang=en

Which is 23.6mb. Then run "NetFx20SP1_x86.exe -x" to extract the
files. I copied the entire directory to our network share (\
\server1.domain.com\software\microsoft\dotnet20sp1\vs_setup.msi), and
added the install to our group policy. Am I using the correct MSI -
vs_setup.msi? This is the MSI I used to deploy .NET 3.0 sucessfully.
However, there is another MSI - Netfx20a_x86.msi - under a sub folder
"\wcu\dotNetFramework\dotNetFX20" along with a load of MSP patch
files. Should I be linking to this MSI instead?

Also, is NetFx20SP1_x86.exe .NET 2.0 with SP1, or just SP1 for .NET
2.0? I'm assuming, as the file size is similar to that of .NET 2.0 non
SP1, which is 22.4mb that it is the former rather than latter.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Ben
date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 01:04:46 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Ben

Re: Deploying .NET 2.0 SP1 via Group Policy   
Ben wrote:

> Also, is NetFx20SP1_x86.exe .NET 2.0 with SP1, or just SP1 for .NET
> 2.0? I'm assuming, as the file size is similar to that of .NET 2.0 non
> SP1, which is 22.4mb that it is the former rather than latter.

No, it's the latter. See this MSKB and check the number of fixes/updates 
included in .NET 2.0 SP1 : http://support.microsoft.com/kb/945757

The full install package of .NET 3.5 contains the following:
http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/archive/2008/01/10/7067719.aspx

> The .NET Framework 3.5 full install package includes all prerequisites and product components that 
> could need to be installed for any processor architecture.  Basically, it is the union of the x86, x64 
> and ia64 packages and prerequisites.  The .NET Framework 3.5 includes the following prerequisites in 
> addition to the main .NET Framework 3.5 product payload:
> 
>     * .NET Framework 2.0 with SP1
>     * .NET Framework 3.0 with SP1
>     * MSXML 6.0
>     * RGB Rasterizer
>     * Windows Imaging Components (WIC)

I checked the blog and couldn't find any special instructions for .NET 2 
SP1, but did for 3.5: .NET Framework 3.5 deployment guides have been 
published on MSDN
http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/archive/2008/01/25/7249161.aspx

If you need further assistance for deployment, suggest contacting Aaron:
http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/contact.aspx

Aaron's blog is *the* source of info on all things .NET, Ben.

MowGreen  [MVP 2003-2008]
===============
  *-343-*  FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============



Ben wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm trying to deploy .NET 2.0 SP1 via group policy software installs,
> along with .NET 3.5. For .NET 3.5 to install successfully .NET 2.0
> _SP1_ must be installed first.
> 
> I have been able to deploy .NET 1.1 SP1, .NET 2.0 (non SP1) & .NET 3.0
> (non SP1) via Group Policy without any problem. However, if I try and
> do the same for .NET 2.0 SP1, the install fails, the trouble is, I
> can't tell why. Usually an event log for 'Application Management' is
> created under the Application event log. However for this deploy, you
> can see it tries to get applied, on machine start up, but quickly
> disappears, and nothing appears in the event log to suggest why.
> 
> I have downloaded the .NET Framework 2.0 SP1 Redistributable Package
> (x86) from the following URL:
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=79bc3b77-e02c-4ad3-aacf-a7633f706ba5&displaylang=en
> 
> Which is 23.6mb. Then run "NetFx20SP1_x86.exe -x" to extract the
> files. I copied the entire directory to our network share (\
> \server1.domain.com\software\microsoft\dotnet20sp1\vs_setup.msi), and
> added the install to our group policy. Am I using the correct MSI -
> vs_setup.msi? This is the MSI I used to deploy .NET 3.0 sucessfully.
> However, there is another MSI - Netfx20a_x86.msi - under a sub folder
> "\wcu\dotNetFramework\dotNetFX20" along with a load of MSP patch
> files. Should I be linking to this MSI instead?
> 
> Also, is NetFx20SP1_x86.exe .NET 2.0 with SP1, or just SP1 for .NET
> 2.0? I'm assuming, as the file size is similar to that of .NET 2.0 non
> SP1, which is 22.4mb that it is the former rather than latter.
> 
> Any help would be much appreciated.
> 
> Ben
date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 08:50:41 -0700   author:   MowGreen [MVP]

Re: Deploying .NET 2.0 SP1 via Group Policy   
EDIT: >> Also, is NetFx20SP1_x86.exe .NET 2.0 with SP1, or just SP1 for .NET
>> 2.0? I'm assuming, as the file size is similar to that of .NET 2.0 non
>> SP1, which is 22.4mb that it is the former rather than latter.
> 
 >
> MowGreen answered, incorrectly:
> No, it's the latter. See this MSKB and check the number of fixes/updates included in .NET 2.0 SP1: 
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/945757

That's incorrect, .NET 2.0 SP1 is a slipstream replacement:
http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/archive/2008/03/07/8108332.aspx

> Note - the .NET Framework 2.0 SP1 and 3.0 SP1 are slipstream replacements for the original versions 
> of 2.0 and 3.0.  You do not need to install 2.0 then SP1 or 3.0 then SP1 as separate steps like you do 
> for 1.0 and 1.1.

It would be helpful if the KB article describing the fixes included in 
SP1 also included that little tidbit, wouldn't it ?

MowGreen  [MVP 2003-2008]
===============
  *-343-*  FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============



> 
> Ben wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm trying to deploy .NET 2.0 SP1 via group policy software installs,
>> along with .NET 3.5. For .NET 3.5 to install successfully .NET 2.0
>> _SP1_ must be installed first.
>>
>> I have been able to deploy .NET 1.1 SP1, .NET 2.0 (non SP1) & .NET 3.0
>> (non SP1) via Group Policy without any problem. However, if I try and
>> do the same for .NET 2.0 SP1, the install fails, the trouble is, I
>> can't tell why. Usually an event log for 'Application Management' is
>> created under the Application event log. However for this deploy, you
>> can see it tries to get applied, on machine start up, but quickly
>> disappears, and nothing appears in the event log to suggest why.
>>
>> I have downloaded the .NET Framework 2.0 SP1 Redistributable Package
>> (x86) from the following URL:
>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=79bc3b77-e02c-4ad3-aacf-a7633f706ba5&displaylang=en 
>>
>>
>> Which is 23.6mb. Then run "NetFx20SP1_x86.exe -x" to extract the
>> files. I copied the entire directory to our network share (\
>> \server1.domain.com\software\microsoft\dotnet20sp1\vs_setup.msi), and
>> added the install to our group policy. Am I using the correct MSI -
>> vs_setup.msi? This is the MSI I used to deploy .NET 3.0 sucessfully.
>> However, there is another MSI - Netfx20a_x86.msi - under a sub folder
>> "\wcu\dotNetFramework\dotNetFX20" along with a load of MSP patch
>> files. Should I be linking to this MSI instead?
>>
>> Also, is NetFx20SP1_x86.exe .NET 2.0 with SP1, or just SP1 for .NET
>> 2.0? I'm assuming, as the file size is similar to that of .NET 2.0 non
>> SP1, which is 22.4mb that it is the former rather than latter.
>>
>> Any help would be much appreciated.
>>
>> Ben
date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 09:21:51 -0700   author:   MowGreen [MVP]

Re: Deploying .NET 2.0 SP1 via Group Policy   
On 6 Sep, 17:21, "MowGreen [MVP]"  wrote:
> EDIT: >> Also, is NetFx20SP1_x86.exe .NET 2.0 with SP1, or just SP1 for .NET
>
> >> 2.0? I'm assuming, as the file size is similar to that of .NET 2.0 non
> >> SP1, which is 22.4mb that it is the former rather than latter.
>
> > MowGreen answered, incorrectly:
> > No, it's the latter. See this MSKB and check the number of fixes/updates included in .NET 2.0 SP1:
> >http://support.microsoft.com/kb/945757
>
> That's incorrect, .NET 2.0 SP1 is a slipstream replacement:http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/archive/2008/03/07/8108332.aspx
>
> > Note - the .NET Framework 2.0 SP1 and 3.0 SP1 are slipstream replacements for the original versions
> > of 2.0 and 3.0.  You do not need to install 2.0 then SP1 or 3.0 then SP1 as separate steps like you do
> > for 1.0 and 1.1.
>
> It would be helpful if the KB article describing the fixes included in
> SP1 also included that little tidbit, wouldn't it ?
>
> MowGreen  [MVP 2003-2008]
> ===============
>   *-343-*  FDNY
> Never Forgotten
> ===============
>
>
>
>
>
> > Ben wrote:
>
> >> Hi,
>
> >> I'm trying to deploy .NET 2.0 SP1 via group policy software installs,
> >> along with .NET 3.5. For .NET 3.5 to install successfully .NET 2.0
> >> _SP1_ must be installed first.
>
> >> I have been able to deploy .NET 1.1 SP1, .NET 2.0 (non SP1) & .NET 3.0
> >> (non SP1) via Group Policy without any problem. However, if I try and
> >> do the same for .NET 2.0 SP1, the install fails, the trouble is, I
> >> can't tell why. Usually an event log for 'Application Management' is
> >> created under the Application event log. However for this deploy, you
> >> can see it tries to get applied, on machine start up, but quickly
> >> disappears, and nothing appears in the event log to suggest why.
>
> >> I have downloaded the .NET Framework 2.0 SP1 Redistributable Package
> >> (x86) from the following URL:
> >>http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=79bc3b77-e02> >> Which is 23.6mb. Then run "NetFx20SP1_x86.exe -x" to extract the
> >> files. I copied the entire directory to our network share (\
> >> \server1.domain.com\software\microsoft\dotnet20sp1\vs_setup.msi), and
> >> added the install to our group policy. Am I using the correct MSI -
> >> vs_setup.msi? This is the MSI I used to deploy .NET 3.0 sucessfully.
> >> However, there is another MSI - Netfx20a_x86.msi - under a sub folder
> >> "\wcu\dotNetFramework\dotNetFX20" along with a load of MSP patch
> >> files. Should I be linking to this MSI instead?
>
> >> Also, is NetFx20SP1_x86.exe .NET 2.0 with SP1, or just SP1 for .NET
> >> 2.0? I'm assuming, as the file size is similar to that of .NET 2.0 non
> >> SP1, which is 22.4mb that it is the former rather than latter.
>
> >> Any help would be much appreciated.
>
> >> Ben- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Hi Mow,

Thanks for the reply.

I'll look through Aaron's blog and see if I can find anything to help.
If not, I'll contact him and see if I can get some advice direct.

Cheers

Ben
date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 08:24:45 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Ben

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