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date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 08:36:02 -0700,    group: microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.aspnet.security        back       


Incorrect LogonUserIdentity.Name   
We have an AD user account that was setup as R_Smith and then was changed to 
JR_Smith.

One of our web applications does a database look up using the 
LogonUserIdentity.Name value but this is still returning R_Smith even though 
the user logged onto his box with JR_Smith.

 

Also I created a page that looked at the server variables and AUTH_USER,  
LOGON_USER and REMOTE_USER all return the correct JR_Smith. This page is 
running on the same web server and in the same virtual directory as the web 
application. Why would the server variables return different values to the 
LogonUserIdentity.Name? Do they pull different attributes from AD? All the 
account settings in AD look fine.

Any ideas?

Thanks

Scott 

(I have also posted this on the asp.net forums but have had no luck yet)
date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 08:36:02 -0700   author:   Scott_A

Re: Incorrect LogonUserIdentity.Name   
Did you try rebooting the box?  Maybe something is cached somewhere in LSA 
memory?  I'm uncertain why the server variables would be up to date but this 
code would be wrong, but perhaps there are different underlying API calls 
that get the data from different places.

It will probably eventually fix itself either way.

-- 
Joe Kaplan-MS MVP Directory Services Programming
Co-author of "The .NET Developer's Guide to Directory Services Programming"
http://www.directoryprogramming.net
--
"Scott_A"  wrote in message 
news:3CF30495-7054-4BDF-8216-F83B25186986@microsoft.com...
> We have an AD user account that was setup as R_Smith and then was changed 
> to
> JR_Smith.
>
> One of our web applications does a database look up using the
> LogonUserIdentity.Name value but this is still returning R_Smith even 
> though
> the user logged onto his box with JR_Smith.
>
>
>
> Also I created a page that looked at the server variables and AUTH_USER,
> LOGON_USER and REMOTE_USER all return the correct JR_Smith. This page is
> running on the same web server and in the same virtual directory as the 
> web
> application. Why would the server variables return different values to the
> LogonUserIdentity.Name? Do they pull different attributes from AD? All the
> account settings in AD look fine.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks
>
> Scott
>
> (I have also posted this on the asp.net forums but have had no luck yet)
date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 12:06:25 -0500   author:   Joe Kaplan

Re: Incorrect LogonUserIdentity.Name   
Thanks for the reply.

Yes I have rebooted the box and have also run that code on different boxes 
that authenticate to different DC's. ("%logonserver%")

I also think there are different API's in play but which ones and where do 
they get their info from?

Scott

"Joe Kaplan" wrote:

> Did you try rebooting the box?  Maybe something is cached somewhere in LSA 
> memory?  I'm uncertain why the server variables would be up to date but this 
> code would be wrong, but perhaps there are different underlying API calls 
> that get the data from different places.
> 
> It will probably eventually fix itself either way.
> 
> -- 
> Joe Kaplan-MS MVP Directory Services Programming
> Co-author of "The .NET Developer's Guide to Directory Services Programming"
> http://www.directoryprogramming.net
> --
> "Scott_A"  wrote in message 
> news:3CF30495-7054-4BDF-8216-F83B25186986@microsoft.com...
> > We have an AD user account that was setup as R_Smith and then was changed 
> > to
> > JR_Smith.
> >
> > One of our web applications does a database look up using the
> > LogonUserIdentity.Name value but this is still returning R_Smith even 
> > though
> > the user logged onto his box with JR_Smith.
> >
> >
> >
> > Also I created a page that looked at the server variables and AUTH_USER,
> > LOGON_USER and REMOTE_USER all return the correct JR_Smith. This page is
> > running on the same web server and in the same virtual directory as the 
> > web
> > application. Why would the server variables return different values to the
> > LogonUserIdentity.Name? Do they pull different attributes from AD? All the
> > account settings in AD look fine.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > (I have also posted this on the asp.net forums but have had no luck yet) 
> 
> 
>
date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 11:24:01 -0700   author:   Scott_A

Re: Incorrect LogonUserIdentity.Name   
I'm not really what's going on then.  I can tell you that the 
WindowsIdentity class uses the various Translate methods off the 
IdentityReferenceCollection to do name translation (really different than 
.NET 1.x) and those use the LsaLookupSids under the hood among other things. 
It would appear that that particular API is returning the old name for some 
reason while some other APIs are not.

I still don't know what the root of the problem is or how to get it resolved 
though, especially if rebooting didn't resolve it.

Sorry.

-- 
Joe Kaplan-MS MVP Directory Services Programming
Co-author of "The .NET Developer's Guide to Directory Services Programming"
http://www.directoryprogramming.net
--
"Scott_A"  wrote in message 
news:A3E5F177-7C23-45C4-89AD-B4DCBFEA180D@microsoft.com...
> Thanks for the reply.
>
> Yes I have rebooted the box and have also run that code on different boxes
> that authenticate to different DC's. ("%logonserver%")
>
> I also think there are different API's in play but which ones and where do
> they get their info from?
>
> Scott
>
> "Joe Kaplan" wrote:
>
>> Did you try rebooting the box?  Maybe something is cached somewhere in 
>> LSA
>> memory?  I'm uncertain why the server variables would be up to date but 
>> this
>> code would be wrong, but perhaps there are different underlying API calls
>> that get the data from different places.
>>
>> It will probably eventually fix itself either way.
>>
>> -- 
>> Joe Kaplan-MS MVP Directory Services Programming
>> Co-author of "The .NET Developer's Guide to Directory Services 
>> Programming"
>> http://www.directoryprogramming.net
>> --
>> "Scott_A"  wrote in message
>> news:3CF30495-7054-4BDF-8216-F83B25186986@microsoft.com...
>> > We have an AD user account that was setup as R_Smith and then was 
>> > changed
>> > to
>> > JR_Smith.
>> >
>> > One of our web applications does a database look up using the
>> > LogonUserIdentity.Name value but this is still returning R_Smith even
>> > though
>> > the user logged onto his box with JR_Smith.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Also I created a page that looked at the server variables and 
>> > AUTH_USER,
>> > LOGON_USER and REMOTE_USER all return the correct JR_Smith. This page 
>> > is
>> > running on the same web server and in the same virtual directory as the
>> > web
>> > application. Why would the server variables return different values to 
>> > the
>> > LogonUserIdentity.Name? Do they pull different attributes from AD? All 
>> > the
>> > account settings in AD look fine.
>> >
>> > Any ideas?
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > Scott
>> >
>> > (I have also posted this on the asp.net forums but have had no luck 
>> > yet)
>>
>>
>>
date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 13:54:22 -0500   author:   Joe Kaplan

Re: Incorrect LogonUserIdentity.Name   
Note that you might consider using a more durable key into your SQL database 
in the future to help avoid these types of problems.  :)

The ideal thing to use for AD users is the GUID (objectGUID attribute in the 
directory) since it rename safe, even across domain moves in a multi-domain 
forest, is fixed size, has convenient binary and string representations and 
also fits nicely into the SQL UniqueIdentifier type.

Another thing you could use is the SID.  It isn't as durable and is variable 
length, but it is more rename safe.  It is also easier to get from the 
WindowsIdentity since it is built in where as the GUID would require some 
sort of a lookup.

Just an idea.  It sounds like that ship may have already sailed and you 
really just need to get this fixed, but this may not be the last time you 
have this problem.

-- 
Joe Kaplan-MS MVP Directory Services Programming
Co-author of "The .NET Developer's Guide to Directory Services Programming"
http://www.directoryprogramming.net
--
"Scott_A"  wrote in message 
news:A3E5F177-7C23-45C4-89AD-B4DCBFEA180D@microsoft.com...
> Thanks for the reply.
>
> Yes I have rebooted the box and have also run that code on different boxes
> that authenticate to different DC's. ("%logonserver%")
>
> I also think there are different API's in play but which ones and where do
> they get their info from?
>
> Scott
>
> "Joe Kaplan" wrote:
>
>> Did you try rebooting the box?  Maybe something is cached somewhere in 
>> LSA
>> memory?  I'm uncertain why the server variables would be up to date but 
>> this
>> code would be wrong, but perhaps there are different underlying API calls
>> that get the data from different places.
>>
>> It will probably eventually fix itself either way.
>>
>> -- 
>> Joe Kaplan-MS MVP Directory Services Programming
>> Co-author of "The .NET Developer's Guide to Directory Services 
>> Programming"
>> http://www.directoryprogramming.net
>> --
>> "Scott_A"  wrote in message
>> news:3CF30495-7054-4BDF-8216-F83B25186986@microsoft.com...
>> > We have an AD user account that was setup as R_Smith and then was 
>> > changed
>> > to
>> > JR_Smith.
>> >
>> > One of our web applications does a database look up using the
>> > LogonUserIdentity.Name value but this is still returning R_Smith even
>> > though
>> > the user logged onto his box with JR_Smith.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Also I created a page that looked at the server variables and 
>> > AUTH_USER,
>> > LOGON_USER and REMOTE_USER all return the correct JR_Smith. This page 
>> > is
>> > running on the same web server and in the same virtual directory as the
>> > web
>> > application. Why would the server variables return different values to 
>> > the
>> > LogonUserIdentity.Name? Do they pull different attributes from AD? All 
>> > the
>> > account settings in AD look fine.
>> >
>> > Any ideas?
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > Scott
>> >
>> > (I have also posted this on the asp.net forums but have had no luck 
>> > yet)
>>
>>
>>
date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 13:58:20 -0500   author:   Joe Kaplan

Re: Incorrect LogonUserIdentity.Name   
Thanks for the help and ideas. It's for a 3rd party app that I had to 
decompile a bit to see what was happening.

I will wait another night and reboot in the morning and hope that it 
resolves itself like these usually do.

Scott

"Joe Kaplan" wrote:

> Note that you might consider using a more durable key into your SQL database 
> in the future to help avoid these types of problems.  :)
> 
> The ideal thing to use for AD users is the GUID (objectGUID attribute in the 
> directory) since it rename safe, even across domain moves in a multi-domain 
> forest, is fixed size, has convenient binary and string representations and 
> also fits nicely into the SQL UniqueIdentifier type.
> 
> Another thing you could use is the SID.  It isn't as durable and is variable 
> length, but it is more rename safe.  It is also easier to get from the 
> WindowsIdentity since it is built in where as the GUID would require some 
> sort of a lookup.
> 
> Just an idea.  It sounds like that ship may have already sailed and you 
> really just need to get this fixed, but this may not be the last time you 
> have this problem.
> 
> -- 
> Joe Kaplan-MS MVP Directory Services Programming
> Co-author of "The .NET Developer's Guide to Directory Services Programming"
> http://www.directoryprogramming.net
> --
> "Scott_A"  wrote in message 
> news:A3E5F177-7C23-45C4-89AD-B4DCBFEA180D@microsoft.com...
> > Thanks for the reply.
> >
> > Yes I have rebooted the box and have also run that code on different boxes
> > that authenticate to different DC's. ("%logonserver%")
> >
> > I also think there are different API's in play but which ones and where do
> > they get their info from?
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > "Joe Kaplan" wrote:
> >
> >> Did you try rebooting the box?  Maybe something is cached somewhere in 
> >> LSA
> >> memory?  I'm uncertain why the server variables would be up to date but 
> >> this
> >> code would be wrong, but perhaps there are different underlying API calls
> >> that get the data from different places.
> >>
> >> It will probably eventually fix itself either way.
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> Joe Kaplan-MS MVP Directory Services Programming
> >> Co-author of "The .NET Developer's Guide to Directory Services 
> >> Programming"
> >> http://www.directoryprogramming.net
> >> --
> >> "Scott_A"  wrote in message
> >> news:3CF30495-7054-4BDF-8216-F83B25186986@microsoft.com...
> >> > We have an AD user account that was setup as R_Smith and then was 
> >> > changed
> >> > to
> >> > JR_Smith.
> >> >
> >> > One of our web applications does a database look up using the
> >> > LogonUserIdentity.Name value but this is still returning R_Smith even
> >> > though
> >> > the user logged onto his box with JR_Smith.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Also I created a page that looked at the server variables and 
> >> > AUTH_USER,
> >> > LOGON_USER and REMOTE_USER all return the correct JR_Smith. This page 
> >> > is
> >> > running on the same web server and in the same virtual directory as the
> >> > web
> >> > application. Why would the server variables return different values to 
> >> > the
> >> > LogonUserIdentity.Name? Do they pull different attributes from AD? All 
> >> > the
> >> > account settings in AD look fine.
> >> >
> >> > Any ideas?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> >
> >> > Scott
> >> >
> >> > (I have also posted this on the asp.net forums but have had no luck 
> >> > yet)
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> 
> 
>
date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 13:34:28 -0700   author:   Scott_A

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