Scaling JPG files   

I have done a Google search on this, and the hits seem to indicate
that there's probably not a computationally easy way to do it, but
I'll ask anyway before I go off and re-invent the wheel.

I have user control do display a specified image file (.jpg)  from a
database. Files may have arbitrary height, width, and aspect ratios.
I have height and width properties on the control to fit the image
display into the appropriate space on the page.  But I would like to
do that while maintaining the aspect ratio of the original image,
rather than just leaving it up to the browser to scale to the
specified height and width.  This would require me to adjust the
requested height and width property to maintain the aspect ratio of
the original file, which I have no problem with... except that I don't
have an easy way get the original height and width.

Is there an easy way to do this in ASP.NET?  I don't mind writing code
in the code-behind file to do it, but is there a way to do it without
reading in the whole JPG file (and then reading it again when it's
loaded by the HTML)?  It seems like this would be a fairly common
problem, so I'm sure there are some classes out there to do it, maybe
even within .NET itself, though the impression I got from the Google
hits was that the JPEG file format definition is such that  you're
going to have read the whole file (or most of it) to extract the
information.

Is this computationally intensive enough to make it worth storing in a
database table and looking it up first, only reading the file to find
it if it's not in the DB table (and then adding it)?

date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 11:28:37 -0700 (PDT)   author:   daveh551

Re: Scaling JPG files   

daveh551 wrote:
> I have done a Google search on this, and the hits seem to indicate
> that there's probably not a computationally easy way to do it, but
> I'll ask anyway before I go off and re-invent the wheel.
> 
> I have user control do display a specified image file (.jpg)  from a
> database. Files may have arbitrary height, width, and aspect ratios.
> I have height and width properties on the control to fit the image
> display into the appropriate space on the page.  But I would like to
> do that while maintaining the aspect ratio of the original image,
> rather than just leaving it up to the browser to scale to the
> specified height and width.  This would require me to adjust the
> requested height and width property to maintain the aspect ratio of
> the original file, which I have no problem with... except that I don't
> have an easy way get the original height and width.
> 
> Is there an easy way to do this in ASP.NET?  I don't mind writing code
> in the code-behind file to do it, but is there a way to do it without
> reading in the whole JPG file (and then reading it again when it's
> loaded by the HTML)?  It seems like this would be a fairly common
> problem, so I'm sure there are some classes out there to do it, maybe
> even within .NET itself, though the impression I got from the Google
> hits was that the JPEG file format definition is such that  you're
> going to have read the whole file (or most of it) to extract the
> information.
> 
> Is this computationally intensive enough to make it worth storing in a
> database table and looking it up first, only reading the file to find
> it if it's not in the DB table (and then adding it)?

What you want to do is create a new aspx page.  The whole purpose of 
this page is to serve the images.

The following link will give you a start.  In the link there is a 
querystring used.  That would be the key to your image in the database:

http://www.sitepoint.com/article/generating-asp-net-images-fly


Hope this helps
LS

date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:16:07 -0400   author:   Lloyd Sheen a@b.c

Re: Scaling JPG files   

On Sep 1, 8:28 pm, daveh551  wrote:
> I have done a Google search on this, and the hits seem to indicate
> that there's probably not a computationally easy way to do it, but
> I'll ask anyway before I go off and re-invent the wheel.
>
> I have user control do display a specified image file (.jpg)  from a
> database. Files may have arbitrary height, width, and aspect ratios.
> I have height and width properties on the control to fit the image
> display into the appropriate space on the page.  But I would like to
> do that while maintaining the aspect ratio of the original image,
> rather than just leaving it up to the browser to scale to the
> specified height and width.  This would require me to adjust the
> requested height and width property to maintain the aspect ratio of
> the original file, which I have no problem with... except that I don't
> have an easy way get the original height and width.
>
> Is there an easy way to do this in ASP.NET?  I don't mind writing code
> in the code-behind file to do it, but is there a way to do it without
> reading in the whole JPG file (and then reading it again when it's
> loaded by the HTML)?  It seems like this would be a fairly common
> problem, so I'm sure there are some classes out there to do it, maybe
> even within .NET itself, though the impression I got from the Google
> hits was that the JPEG file format definition is such that  you're
> going to have read the whole file (or most of it) to extract the
> information.
>
> Is this computationally intensive enough to make it worth storing in a
> database table and looking it up first, only reading the file to find
> it if it's not in the DB table (and then adding it)?

Try to read just some fist bytes and get the dimensions from header.
There's plenty of documentation about JPG format online. Here are some
examples on how to get the information from header:

http://quilt.ic.cz/tmp/devfus/ImageInfo.rar
http://sipostamas.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!F648CB161AEB2D04!157.entry

date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 12:41:57 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Alexey Smirnov

Re: Scaling JPG files   

daveh551 wrote:
> I have done a Google search on this, and the hits seem to indicate
> that there's probably not a computationally easy way to do it, but
> I'll ask anyway before I go off and re-invent the wheel.
> 
> I have user control do display a specified image file (.jpg)  from a
> database. Files may have arbitrary height, width, and aspect ratios.
> I have height and width properties on the control to fit the image
> display into the appropriate space on the page.  But I would like to
> do that while maintaining the aspect ratio of the original image,
> rather than just leaving it up to the browser to scale to the
> specified height and width.  This would require me to adjust the
> requested height and width property to maintain the aspect ratio of
> the original file, which I have no problem with... except that I don't
> have an easy way get the original height and width.
> 
> Is there an easy way to do this in ASP.NET?  I don't mind writing code
> in the code-behind file to do it, but is there a way to do it without
> reading in the whole JPG file (and then reading it again when it's
> loaded by the HTML)?  It seems like this would be a fairly common
> problem, so I'm sure there are some classes out there to do it, maybe
> even within .NET itself,

There is nothing in the framework for this. You can easily get the 
information, but not without also decompressing the image data.

> though the impression I got from the Google
> hits was that the JPEG file format definition is such that  you're
> going to have read the whole file (or most of it) to extract the
> information.

You only need a small part of the file to get the image dimensions, but 
as the JPEG format is flexible you don't know beforehand where in the 
file that information is located. You may have to skip through several 
sections of the file to get to the right one.

> Is this computationally intensive enough to make it worth storing in a
> database table and looking it up first, only reading the file to find
> it if it's not in the DB table (and then adding it)?

Yes, I would definitely store the image dimensions in the database.

You should also consider creating the thumbnail images on the server 
instead of letting the browser scale the image. This reduces the 
bandwidth usage, and the image quality of the thumbnails gets much better.

-- 
Göran Andersson
_____
http://www.guffa.com

date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 10:36:39 +0200   author:   Göran Andersson

Re: Scaling JPG files   

On Sep 2, 3:36 am, Göran Andersson  wrote:
> daveh551 wrote:
> > I have done a Google search on this, and the hits seem to indicate
> > that there's probably not a computationally easy way to do it, but
> > I'll ask anyway before I go off and re-invent the wheel.
>
> > I have user control do display a specified image file (.jpg)  from a
> > database. Files may have arbitrary height, width, and aspect ratios.
> > I have height and width properties on the control to fit the image
> > display into the appropriate space on the page.  But I would like to
> > do that while maintaining the aspect ratio of the original image,
> > rather than just leaving it up to the browser to scale to the
> > specified height and width.  This would require me to adjust the
> > requested height and width property to maintain the aspect ratio of
> > the original file, which I have no problem with... except that I don't
> > have an easy way get the original height and width.
>
> > Is there an easy way to do this in ASP.NET?  I don't mind writing code
> > in the code-behind file to do it, but is there a way to do it without
> > reading in the whole JPG file (and then reading it again when it's
> > loaded by the HTML)?  It seems like this would be a fairly common
> > problem, so I'm sure there are some classes out there to do it, maybe
> > even within .NET itself,
>
> There is nothing in the framework for this. You can easily get the
> information, but not without also decompressing the image data.
>
> > though the impression I got from the Google
> > hits was that the JPEG file format definition is such that  you're
> > going to have read the whole file (or most of it) to extract the
> > information.
>
> You only need a small part of the file to get the image dimensions, but
> as the JPEG format is flexible you don't know beforehand where in the
> file that information is located. You may have to skip through several
> sections of the file to get to the right one.
>
> > Is this computationally intensive enough to make it worth storing in a
> > database table and looking it up first, only reading the file to find
> > it if it's not in the DB table (and then adding it)?
>
> Yes, I would definitely store the image dimensions in the database.
>
> You should also consider creating the thumbnail images on the server
> instead of letting the browser scale the image. This reduces the
> bandwidth usage, and the image quality of the thumbnails gets much better> Göran Andersson
> _____http://www.guffa.com

Thank you all for your responses.  This will give me some valuable
guidance as I implement this.

date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 06:09:13 -0700 (PDT)   author:   daveh551