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date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:58:25 GMT,    group: microsoft.public.dotnet.distributed_apps        back       


Deploy using a Third-Party Installer   
I resisted for many years but I've just written my first app in .NET2005
and am looking to deploy my app with a third-party installer. ClickOnce
and the VS Installer do not meed my needs and I am already well versed
in another installer.

My question is mainly dealing with deploying the app dependecies. I think
I know where im headed but could use the advice of others who have had
more experience. Should i just  take all the files in the \Release\ folder 
and
deploy those. There are two DLLs which are listed as local and another one
which is non-local in the References. I can change if its local or not but I 
dont
understand what makes a DLL local by default.

Anyway thats the point where im at after looking at countless artciles which
all seem to focus on the bult-in VS installer and installshield.

AGP
date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:58:25 GMT   author:   AGP

Re: Deploy using a Third-Party Installer   
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:58:25 GMT, "AGP" 
wrote:

>I resisted for many years but I've just written my first app in .NET2005
>and am looking to deploy my app with a third-party installer. ClickOnce
>and the VS Installer do not meed my needs and I am already well versed
>in another installer.
>
>My question is mainly dealing with deploying the app dependecies. I think
>I know where im headed but could use the advice of others who have had
>more experience. Should i just  take all the files in the \Release\ folder 
>and
>deploy those. There are two DLLs which are listed as local and another one
>which is non-local in the References. I can change if its local or not but I 
>dont
>understand what makes a DLL local by default.
>
>Anyway thats the point where im at after looking at countless artciles which
>all seem to focus on the bult-in VS installer and installshield.
>
>AGP
>

Take a look at the Wix installer --- it's much more flexibe than the
built in Visual Studio setup tool, and allow syou to do much more.

http://www.wix.sourceforge.net

--
http://bytes.thinkersroom.com
date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:05:05 +0300   author:   Rad [Visual C# MVP]

Re: Deploy using a Third-Party Installer   
Thank you for the info but I am not looking for an installer. Like I
said i already am well versed with another installer and all I'm
looking for is a methodology to deploy my app. My idea was to simply
deploy all files in the /Release folder. Is there a way to configure
my app such that it looks for the info in a /bin/ or /Support/ folder
rather than directly from the EXE path. I think I can just copy the
DLLs into the same path as the app and it should work on the target
system correct?

AGP
date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:35:48 -0700   author:   DIOS

Re: Deploy using a Third-Party Installer   
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:35:48 -0700, DIOS  wrote:

>Thank you for the info but I am not looking for an installer. Like I
>said i already am well versed with another installer and all I'm
>looking for is a methodology to deploy my app. My idea was to simply
>deploy all files in the /Release folder. Is there a way to configure
>my app such that it looks for the info in a /bin/ or /Support/ folder
>rather than directly from the EXE path. I think I can just copy the
>DLLs into the same path as the app and it should work on the target
>system correct?
>
>AGP

Perhaps I'm not understanding your problem -- from what I understand
you want to be able to deploy some DLLs with your application that are
not in the standard bin folder, correct?

It this is so I don't understand your reluctance to use an installer
of some sort. How will you deal with issues like

1) Allowing the user choice of where to install the files
2) Control the versioning of the application for support issues
3) Where applicable, register assemblies in the Global Assembly Cache?
4) Allow the user to cleanly uninstall the application?

--
http://bytes.thinkersroom.com
date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:23:06 +0300   author:   Rad [Visual C# MVP]

Re: Deploy using a Third-Party Installer   
"Rad [Visual C# MVP]"  wrote in message 
news:m4lci318for9d4k317k4sb0si8bp8thnqr@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:35:48 -0700, DIOS  wrote:
>
>>Thank you for the info but I am not looking for an installer. Like I
>>said i already am well versed with another installer and all I'm
>>looking for is a methodology to deploy my app. My idea was to simply
>>deploy all files in the /Release folder. Is there a way to configure
>>my app such that it looks for the info in a /bin/ or /Support/ folder
>>rather than directly from the EXE path. I think I can just copy the
>>DLLs into the same path as the app and it should work on the target
>>system correct?
>>
>>AGP
>
> Perhaps I'm not understanding your problem -- from what I understand
> you want to be able to deploy some DLLs with your application that are
> not in the standard bin folder, correct?
>
> It this is so I don't understand your reluctance to use an installer
> of some sort. How will you deal with issues like
>
> 1) Allowing the user choice of where to install the files
> 2) Control the versioning of the application for support issues
> 3) Where applicable, register assemblies in the Global Assembly Cache?
> 4) Allow the user to cleanly uninstall the application?
>
> --
> http://bytes.thinkersroom.com

yes it seems like I haven not made myself clear. I am not asking for advice 
on installers.
I have one already and am well versed in building installations with this 
specific system.
My inquiries have to deal with how to deploy my app and its dependencies. 
bascially
like pseudo code so that i can replicate it with my installer. I think I 
understand that i can deploy
my exe along with its DLLs and place them in the same direcory and it should 
work. Now
if i wan to deploy the dependencies to another folder say a /Support/ folder 
then I have to
regsiter in the GAC. Is that correct? My second inquiry is what files do i 
deploy. As I understood
it I just deploy all files in my projects /bin/Release/ folder. is that 
correct?

AGP
date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 03:19:00 GMT   author:   AGP

Re: Deploy using a Third-Party Installer   
I agree
"AGP"  wrote in message 
news:EuSVi.65647$YL5.52982@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
>
> "Rad [Visual C# MVP]"  wrote in message 
> news:m4lci318for9d4k317k4sb0si8bp8thnqr@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:35:48 -0700, DIOS  wrote:
>>
>>>Thank you for the info but I am not looking for an installer. Like I
>>>said i already am well versed with another installer and all I'm
>>>looking for is a methodology to deploy my app. My idea was to simply
>>>deploy all files in the /Release folder. Is there a way to configure
>>>my app such that it looks for the info in a /bin/ or /Support/ folder
>>>rather than directly from the EXE path. I think I can just copy the
>>>DLLs into the same path as the app and it should work on the target
>>>system correct?
>>>
>>>AGP
>>
>> Perhaps I'm not understanding your problem -- from what I understand
>> you want to be able to deploy some DLLs with your application that are
>> not in the standard bin folder, correct?
>>
>> It this is so I don't understand your reluctance to use an installer
>> of some sort. How will you deal with issues like
>>
>> 1) Allowing the user choice of where to install the files
>> 2) Control the versioning of the application for support issues
>> 3) Where applicable, register assemblies in the Global Assembly Cache?
>> 4) Allow the user to cleanly uninstall the application?
>>
>> --
>> http://bytes.thinkersroom.com
>
> yes it seems like I haven not made myself clear. I am not asking for 
> advice on installers.
> I have one already and am well versed in building installations with this 
> specific system.
> My inquiries have to deal with how to deploy my app and its dependencies. 
> bascially
> like pseudo code so that i can replicate it with my installer. I think I 
> understand that i can deploy
> my exe along with its DLLs and place them in the same direcory and it 
> should work. Now
> if i wan to deploy the dependencies to another folder say a /Support/ 
> folder then I have to
> regsiter in the GAC. Is that correct? My second inquiry is what files do i 
> deploy. As I understood
> it I just deploy all files in my projects /bin/Release/ folder. is that 
> correct?
>
> AGP
>
>
date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:57:24 -0000   author:   aDelfino

Re: Deploy using a Third-Party Installer   
Hmm, you agree on what? Anyway, still researching this. Again I have
an installer system and Im looking for advice on what files in the /
Release/ folder of my project i need to deploy.

Rgds
AGP

On Nov 13, 7:57 am, "aDelfino"  wrote:
> I agree"AGP"  wrote in message
>
> news:EuSVi.65647$YL5.52982@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
>
>
>
> > "Rad [Visual C# MVP]"  wrote in message
> >news:m4lci318for9d4k317k4sb0si8bp8thnqr@4ax.com...
> >> On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:35:48 -0700, DIOS  wrote:
>
> >>>Thank you for the info but I am not looking for an installer. Like I
> >>>said i already am well versed with another installer and all I'm
> >>>looking for is a methodology to deploy my app. My idea was to simply
> >>>deploy all files in the /Release folder. Is there a way to configure
> >>>my app such that it looks for the info in a /bin/ or /Support/ folder
> >>>rather than directly from the EXE path. I think I can just copy the
> >>>DLLs into the same path as the app and it should work on the target
> >>>system correct?
>
> >>>AGP
>
> >> Perhaps I'm not understanding your problem -- from what I understand
> >> you want to be able to deploy some DLLs with your application that are
> >> not in the standard bin folder, correct?
>
> >> It this is so I don't understand your reluctance to use an installer
> >> of some sort. How will you deal with issues like
>
> >> 1) Allowing the user choice of where to install the files
> >> 2) Control the versioning of the application for support issues
> >> 3) Where applicable, register assemblies in the Global Assembly Cache?
> >> 4) Allow the user to cleanly uninstall the application?
>
> >> --
> >>http://bytes.thinkersroom.com
>
> > yes it seems like I haven not made myself clear. I am not asking for
> > advice on installers.
> > I have one already and am well versed in building installations with this
> > specific system.
> > My inquiries have to deal with how to deploy my app and its dependencies.
> > bascially
> > like pseudo code so that i can replicate it with my installer. I think I
> > understand that i can deploy
> > my exe along with its DLLs and place them in the same direcory and it
> > should work. Now
> > if i wan to deploy the dependencies to another folder say a /Support/
> > folder then I have to
> > regsiter in the GAC. Is that correct? My second inquiry is what files do i
> > deploy. As I understood
> > it I just deploy all files in my projects /bin/Release/ folder. is that
> > correct?
>
> > AGP
date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:07:09 -0800 (PST)   author:   AGP

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