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date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:25:01 -0700,    group: microsoft.public.windows.mediacenter        back       


license   
Hello,

We have a dead old Dell computer.
If we get new computer from Dell with Vist Home installed.
Can we reinstall Windows XP Pro to new computer with dead Dell computer 
license?

Thanks
date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:25:01 -0700   author:   Newbie

Re: license   
First, this is a Media Center forum, your question would be better posted in 
a general XP newsgroup.

To answer your question:

Can you?  -- Yes, probably the disc will work since both are Dell systems.

May you? --  No, it is not a legal use of the XP license, that is an OEM 
license that dies with the machine and can't be transferred.
-- 
James
Orlando (Goofy says "Hey"), Florida



"Newbie"  wrote in message 
news:9938D365-9D46-4255-B72F-C2B6685FDDAB@microsoft.com...
> Hello,
>
> We have a dead old Dell computer.
> If we get new computer from Dell with Vist Home installed.
> Can we reinstall Windows XP Pro to new computer with dead Dell computer
> license?
>
> Thanks
date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:42:40 -0400   author:   Jaime

Re: license   
If the dead Dell still has the old "image" format of OEM software, (loaded 
quickly) then it would not work properly with a different machine.
The hardware drivers would not be appropriate for the new machine.

If you have a straight "Windows" disk, then it could format properly. 
Windows takes a LONG time to install.


"Jaime"  wrote in message 
news:eOrujSb7IHA.1468@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> First, this is a Media Center forum, your question would be better posted 
> in a general XP newsgroup.
>
> To answer your question:
>
> Can you?  -- Yes, probably the disc will work since both are Dell systems.
>
> May you? --  No, it is not a legal use of the XP license, that is an OEM 
> license that dies with the machine and can't be transferred.
> -- 
> James
> Orlando (Goofy says "Hey"), Florida
>
>
>
> "Newbie"  wrote in message 
> news:9938D365-9D46-4255-B72F-C2B6685FDDAB@microsoft.com...
>> Hello,
>>
>> We have a dead old Dell computer.
>> If we get new computer from Dell with Vist Home installed.
>> Can we reinstall Windows XP Pro to new computer with dead Dell computer
>> license?
>>
>> Thanks
>
date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:57:49 -0400   author:   Ralph

Re: license   
Whether it would work or not doesn't really matter, it's a violation of the 
EULA.
Depending on the PC Windows can take 15 minutes or so to install, not long 
at all.

-- 

----
Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375



"Ralph"  wrote in message 
news:uuIOp8b7IHA.1196@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> If the dead Dell still has the old "image" format of OEM software, (loaded 
> quickly) then it would not work properly with a different machine.
> The hardware drivers would not be appropriate for the new machine.
>
> If you have a straight "Windows" disk, then it could format properly. 
> Windows takes a LONG time to install.
>
>
> "Jaime"  wrote in message 
> news:eOrujSb7IHA.1468@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> First, this is a Media Center forum, your question would be better posted 
>> in a general XP newsgroup.
>>
>> To answer your question:
>>
>> Can you?  -- Yes, probably the disc will work since both are Dell 
>> systems.
>>
>> May you? --  No, it is not a legal use of the XP license, that is an OEM 
>> license that dies with the machine and can't be transferred.
>> -- 
>> James
>> Orlando (Goofy says "Hey"), Florida
>>
>>
>>
>> "Newbie"  wrote in message 
>> news:9938D365-9D46-4255-B72F-C2B6685FDDAB@microsoft.com...
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> We have a dead old Dell computer.
>>> If we get new computer from Dell with Vist Home installed.
>>> Can we reinstall Windows XP Pro to new computer with dead Dell computer
>>> license?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>
>
date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:45:56 -0400   author:   David B.

Re: license   
Thanks for all!

Yes, I can install XP pro to new PC.
All I like to know is it legally?

The answer is 'no'

Thanks again

"David B." wrote:

> Whether it would work or not doesn't really matter, it's a violation of the 
> EULA.
> Depending on the PC Windows can take 15 minutes or so to install, not long 
> at all.
> 
> -- 
> 
> ----
> Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
> How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
> 
> 
> 
> "Ralph"  wrote in message 
> news:uuIOp8b7IHA.1196@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > If the dead Dell still has the old "image" format of OEM software, (loaded 
> > quickly) then it would not work properly with a different machine.
> > The hardware drivers would not be appropriate for the new machine.
> >
> > If you have a straight "Windows" disk, then it could format properly. 
> > Windows takes a LONG time to install.
> >
> >
> > "Jaime"  wrote in message 
> > news:eOrujSb7IHA.1468@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >> First, this is a Media Center forum, your question would be better posted 
> >> in a general XP newsgroup.
> >>
> >> To answer your question:
> >>
> >> Can you?  -- Yes, probably the disc will work since both are Dell 
> >> systems.
> >>
> >> May you? --  No, it is not a legal use of the XP license, that is an OEM 
> >> license that dies with the machine and can't be transferred.
> >> -- 
> >> James
> >> Orlando (Goofy says "Hey"), Florida
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Newbie"  wrote in message 
> >> news:9938D365-9D46-4255-B72F-C2B6685FDDAB@microsoft.com...
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> We have a dead old Dell computer.
> >>> If we get new computer from Dell with Vist Home installed.
> >>> Can we reinstall Windows XP Pro to new computer with dead Dell computer
> >>> license?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>
> > 
> 
>
date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:03:00 -0700   author:   Newbie

Re: license   
If it took 15 minutes, it was an image, and not a clean install of Windows.

"Newbie"  wrote in message 
news:1DC12779-4E17-4F0F-A42A-17AD1F5BBD84@microsoft.com...
> Thanks for all!
>
> Yes, I can install XP pro to new PC.
> All I like to know is it legally?
>
> The answer is 'no'
>
> Thanks again
>
> "David B." wrote:
>
>> Whether it would work or not doesn't really matter, it's a violation of 
>> the
>> EULA.
>> Depending on the PC Windows can take 15 minutes or so to install, not 
>> long
>> at all.
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> ----
>> Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>> How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>>
>>
>>
>> "Ralph"  wrote in message
>> news:uuIOp8b7IHA.1196@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> > If the dead Dell still has the old "image" format of OEM software, 
>> > (loaded
>> > quickly) then it would not work properly with a different machine.
>> > The hardware drivers would not be appropriate for the new machine.
>> >
>> > If you have a straight "Windows" disk, then it could format properly.
>> > Windows takes a LONG time to install.
>> >
>> >
>> > "Jaime"  wrote in message
>> > news:eOrujSb7IHA.1468@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> >> First, this is a Media Center forum, your question would be better 
>> >> posted
>> >> in a general XP newsgroup.
>> >>
>> >> To answer your question:
>> >>
>> >> Can you?  -- Yes, probably the disc will work since both are Dell
>> >> systems.
>> >>
>> >> May you? --  No, it is not a legal use of the XP license, that is an 
>> >> OEM
>> >> license that dies with the machine and can't be transferred.
>> >> -- 
>> >> James
>> >> Orlando (Goofy says "Hey"), Florida
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Newbie"  wrote in message
>> >> news:9938D365-9D46-4255-B72F-C2B6685FDDAB@microsoft.com...
>> >>> Hello,
>> >>>
>> >>> We have a dead old Dell computer.
>> >>> If we get new computer from Dell with Vist Home installed.
>> >>> Can we reinstall Windows XP Pro to new computer with dead Dell 
>> >>> computer
>> >>> license?
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:46:39 -0400   author:   Ralph

Re: license   
You are incorrect, I know the difference between an image and a clean 
install, you apparently haven't done any clean installs on some of the 
current hardware, takes no time at all.

-- 

----
Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375



"Ralph"  wrote in message 
news:eqMRc5c7IHA.240@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> If it took 15 minutes, it was an image, and not a clean install of 
> Windows.
>
date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:36:17 -0400   author:   David B.

Re: license   
I have done clean installs on new hardware (1.8GHz CPU).

It takes 15-20 minutes for Windows XP Pro to install. But you are not done 
at that point.
You do have the OS installed, but none of your regular programs.

Installing your programs takes anywhere from one hour to 4-5 hours. Depends 
on the exact set of programs you normally use.

A computer is not much good if all you have is the OS.
-- 
CSM1
http://www.carlmcmillan.com
--
"David B."  wrote in message 
news:OF8lqbL8IHA.3480@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> You are incorrect, I know the difference between an image and a clean 
> install, you apparently haven't done any clean installs on some of the 
> current hardware, takes no time at all.
>
> -- 
>
> ----
> Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
> How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>
>
>
> "Ralph"  wrote in message 
> news:eqMRc5c7IHA.240@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> If it took 15 minutes, it was an image, and not a clean install of 
>> Windows.
>>
>
date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:20:23 -0500   author:   CSM1

Re: license   
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:20:23 -0500, "CSM1"  wrote:

>I have done clean installs on new hardware (1.8GHz CPU).
>
>It takes 15-20 minutes for Windows XP Pro to install. But you are not done 
>at that point.
>You do have the OS installed, but none of your regular programs.
>
>Installing your programs takes anywhere from one hour to 4-5 hours. Depends 
>on the exact set of programs you normally use.
>
>A computer is not much good if all you have is the OS.
>-- 

You forgot about all the patches from Windows Update that need to be done
before the OS is fully up to snuff. This can typically take several times as
long as the initial OS install.
--

Cheers

Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur
MCE MVP
date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:15:17 +0200   author:   Nigel Barker

Re: license   
All depends on your definition of install

-- 

----
Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375



"CSM1"  wrote in message 
news:wrljk.8666$vn7.5917@flpi147.ffdc.sbc.com...
>I have done clean installs on new hardware (1.8GHz CPU).
>
> It takes 15-20 minutes for Windows XP Pro to install. But you are not done 
> at that point.
> You do have the OS installed, but none of your regular programs.
>
> Installing your programs takes anywhere from one hour to 4-5 hours. 
> Depends on the exact set of programs you normally use.
>
> A computer is not much good if all you have is the OS.
> -- 
> CSM1
> http://www.carlmcmillan.com
> --
> "David B."  wrote in message 
> news:OF8lqbL8IHA.3480@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> You are incorrect, I know the difference between an image and a clean 
>> install, you apparently haven't done any clean installs on some of the 
>> current hardware, takes no time at all.
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> ----
>> Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>> How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>>
>>
>>
>> "Ralph"  wrote in message 
>> news:eqMRc5c7IHA.240@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> If it took 15 minutes, it was an image, and not a clean install of 
>>> Windows.
>>>
>>
>
>
date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:44:09 -0400   author:   David B.

Re: license   
"Nigel Barker"  wrote in message 
news:u1sr84t2tl979n2i4dbeu5vmm57ns139i6@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:20:23 -0500, "CSM1"  wrote:
>
>>I have done clean installs on new hardware (1.8GHz CPU).
>>
>>It takes 15-20 minutes for Windows XP Pro to install. But you are not done
>>at that point.
>>You do have the OS installed, but none of your regular programs.
>>
>>Installing your programs takes anywhere from one hour to 4-5 hours. 
>>Depends
>>on the exact set of programs you normally use.
>>
>>A computer is not much good if all you have is the OS.
>>-- 
>
> You forgot about all the patches from Windows Update that need to be done
> before the OS is fully up to snuff. This can typically take several times 
> as
> long as the initial OS install.
> --
>
> Cheers
>
> Nigel Barker
> Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur
> MCE MVP

That is true.
You do need to first install all of the Motherboard drivers, then Windows 
Update.

If your OS is SP2, then at a minimum you will have the 300+ MB install of 
SP3.

-- 
CSM1
http://www.carlmcmillan.com
--
date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:53:15 -0500   author:   CSM1

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