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date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 07:07:09 -0700,    group: microsoft.public.windowsmedia        back       


Streaming with Closed Captioning   
I've built .smi files for my .wmv videos using Hi-Caption software.  When I 
setup an On Demand video stream on my Media Server (WMS 9 running on Server 
2003 Enterprise, IIS on a seperate web server.) the video stream runs fine 
but the CC does not work.  I have the .wmv and .smi files in the same 
directory on the server.  The captioning works fine if I just run (double 
click) the .wmv file directly but NOT through the streaming server.  What am 
I doing wrong?
date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 07:07:09 -0700   author:   RC Henderson

Re: Streaming with Closed Captioning   
On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 07:07:09 -0700, RC Henderson 
wrote:

>
>I've built .smi files for my .wmv videos using Hi-Caption software.  When I 
>setup an On Demand video stream on my Media Server (WMS 9 running on Server 
>2003 Enterprise, IIS on a seperate web server.) the video stream runs fine 
>but the CC does not work.  I have the .wmv and .smi files in the same 
>directory on the server.  The captioning works fine if I just run (double 
>click) the .wmv file directly but NOT through the streaming server.  What am 
>I doing wrong?

The SAMI and WMV files must exist in the same directory / URL path for
this feature of the player to work. That is, for having the player
automatically request a SAMI file where present.

As they're on different domains, this can't work.

So instead, you should use the alternate route and append the SAMI
file as a query string of the request URI such as 

rtsp://stream.myserver.com/file.wmv?sami=http://web.myserver.com/file.smi

See this page for similar examples :
http://www.webaim.org/techniques/captions/windows/add_captions.php#adding

HTH
Cheers - Neil
------------------------------------------------
Digital Media MVP : 2004-2009
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs
date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 14:50:36 GMT   author:   Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]

Re: Streaming with Closed Captioning   
Neil, the .wmv files and the .smi files are ALL on the media server, in the 
same folder, in the same directory.  The only thing on the webserver are the 
.nsc files and the .htm files created when the publishing point is made.  The 
stream works fine withOUT the captions in an embedded Media Player using the 
.nsc file as a pointer from our Streaming Media Web Portal or using the .htm 
file as a pointer from the run command).  Or the stream plays fine WITH the 
captions if you just navigate to the media server and double click on the 
.wmv file.  
I'm playing with some version of the reference lines you suggested added 
manually now but, the path to the .smi file is exactly the same as the path 
to the .wmv.  I'll post here if I have success with this method.
Thanks.
-- 
Reverend Roger C Henderson


"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" wrote:

> On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 07:07:09 -0700, RC Henderson 
> wrote:
> 
> >
> >I've built .smi files for my .wmv videos using Hi-Caption software.  When I 
> >setup an On Demand video stream on my Media Server (WMS 9 running on Server 
> >2003 Enterprise, IIS on a seperate web server.) the video stream runs fine 
> >but the CC does not work.  I have the .wmv and .smi files in the same 
> >directory on the server.  The captioning works fine if I just run (double 
> >click) the .wmv file directly but NOT through the streaming server.  What am 
> >I doing wrong?
> 
> The SAMI and WMV files must exist in the same directory / URL path for
> this feature of the player to work. That is, for having the player
> automatically request a SAMI file where present.
> 
> As they're on different domains, this can't work.
> 
> So instead, you should use the alternate route and append the SAMI
> file as a query string of the request URI such as 
> 
> rtsp://stream.myserver.com/file.wmv?sami=http://web.myserver.com/file.smi
> 
> See this page for similar examples :
> http://www.webaim.org/techniques/captions/windows/add_captions.php#adding
> 
> HTH
> Cheers - Neil
> ------------------------------------------------
> Digital Media MVP : 2004-2009
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs
>
date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:50:01 -0700   author:   RC Henderson

Re: Streaming with Closed Captioning   
On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:50:01 -0700, RC Henderson 
wrote:

>Neil, the .wmv files and the .smi files are ALL on the media server, in the 
>same folder, in the same directory.  The only thing on the webserver are the 


Then I did't explain that part properly. When I mentined 'the same
directory' I was explicitly referring to streaming from a web server
of filesystem (which you're not doing here).

The SAMI files *cannot* be referenced from the media server, as WMS
doesn't 'stream' these file types (in fact it only supports ASF and
MP3 file types). 

If you re-read the URL I posted it should be clear : 
rtsp://stream.myserver.com/file.wmv?sami=http://web.myserver.com/file.smi

The streaming file should be sent from the streaming server publishing
point - BUT the SAMI file *must* be placed on your web server.

>.nsc files and the .htm files created when the publishing point is made.  The 
>stream works fine withOUT the captions in an embedded Media Player using the 
>.nsc file as a pointer from our Streaming Media Web Portal or using the .htm 
>file as a pointer from the run command).  Or the stream plays fine WITH the 
>captions if you just navigate to the media server and double click on the 
>.wmv file.  

Because you're opening a directory structure on the local machine,
which happens to have the SAMI file in it (scenario 2) rather than
streaming from a media server...

>I'm playing with some version of the reference lines you suggested added 
>manually now but, the path to the .smi file is exactly the same as the path 
>to the .wmv.  I'll post here if I have success with this method.

You won't ;-)

HTH
Cheers - Neil
------------------------------------------------
Digital Media MVP : 2004-2009
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs
date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:58:08 GMT   author:   Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]

Re: Streaming with Closed Captioning   
Ah...!  Important piece of information.  MOVE the .SMI files to the web 
server.  THEN reference them in the .asx file?  By George, I think I've got 
it.  Back to the Remote Desktop...wish me luck.
-- 
Reverend Roger C Henderson


"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" wrote:

> On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:50:01 -0700, RC Henderson 
> wrote:
> 
> >Neil, the .wmv files and the .smi files are ALL on the media server, in the 
> >same folder, in the same directory.  The only thing on the webserver are the 
> 
> 
> Then I did't explain that part properly. When I mentined 'the same
> directory' I was explicitly referring to streaming from a web server
> of filesystem (which you're not doing here).
> 
> The SAMI files *cannot* be referenced from the media server, as WMS
> doesn't 'stream' these file types (in fact it only supports ASF and
> MP3 file types). 
> 
> If you re-read the URL I posted it should be clear : 
> rtsp://stream.myserver.com/file.wmv?sami=http://web.myserver.com/file.smi
> 
> The streaming file should be sent from the streaming server publishing
> point - BUT the SAMI file *must* be placed on your web server.
> 
> >.nsc files and the .htm files created when the publishing point is made.  The 
> >stream works fine withOUT the captions in an embedded Media Player using the 
> >.nsc file as a pointer from our Streaming Media Web Portal or using the .htm 
> >file as a pointer from the run command).  Or the stream plays fine WITH the 
> >captions if you just navigate to the media server and double click on the 
> >.wmv file.  
> 
> Because you're opening a directory structure on the local machine,
> which happens to have the SAMI file in it (scenario 2) rather than
> streaming from a media server...
> 
> >I'm playing with some version of the reference lines you suggested added 
> >manually now but, the path to the .smi file is exactly the same as the path 
> >to the .wmv.  I'll post here if I have success with this method.
> 
> You won't ;-)
> 
> HTH
> Cheers - Neil
> ------------------------------------------------
> Digital Media MVP : 2004-2009
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs
>
date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 07:51:01 -0700   author:   RC Henderson

Re: Streaming with Closed Captioning   
Result !

Cheers - Neil

On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 07:51:01 -0700, RC Henderson 
wrote:

>Ah...!  Important piece of information.  MOVE the .SMI files to the web 
>server.  THEN reference them in the .asx file?  By George, I think I've got 
>it.  Back to the Remote Desktop...wish me luck.
>-- 
>Reverend Roger C Henderson
>
>
>"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:50:01 -0700, RC Henderson 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> >Neil, the .wmv files and the .smi files are ALL on the media server, in the 
>> >same folder, in the same directory.  The only thing on the webserver are the 
>> 
>> 
>> Then I did't explain that part properly. When I mentined 'the same
>> directory' I was explicitly referring to streaming from a web server
>> of filesystem (which you're not doing here).
>> 
>> The SAMI files *cannot* be referenced from the media server, as WMS
>> doesn't 'stream' these file types (in fact it only supports ASF and
>> MP3 file types). 
>> 
>> If you re-read the URL I posted it should be clear : 
>> rtsp://stream.myserver.com/file.wmv?sami=http://web.myserver.com/file.smi
>> 
>> The streaming file should be sent from the streaming server publishing
>> point - BUT the SAMI file *must* be placed on your web server.
>> 
>> >.nsc files and the .htm files created when the publishing point is made.  The 
>> >stream works fine withOUT the captions in an embedded Media Player using the 
>> >.nsc file as a pointer from our Streaming Media Web Portal or using the .htm 
>> >file as a pointer from the run command).  Or the stream plays fine WITH the 
>> >captions if you just navigate to the media server and double click on the 
>> >.wmv file.  
>> 
>> Because you're opening a directory structure on the local machine,
>> which happens to have the SAMI file in it (scenario 2) rather than
>> streaming from a media server...
>> 
>> >I'm playing with some version of the reference lines you suggested added 
>> >manually now but, the path to the .smi file is exactly the same as the path 
>> >to the .wmv.  I'll post here if I have success with this method.
>> 
>> You won't ;-)
>> 
>> HTH
>> Cheers - Neil
>> ------------------------------------------------
>> Digital Media MVP : 2004-2009
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs
>> 
------------------------------------------------
Digital Media MVP : 2004-2009
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs
date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:50:12 GMT   author:   Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]

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