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date: Wed, 3 May 2006 12:17:03 -0700,
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Re: File Server Permissions
Hello Pegasus,
Yes I was puzzled too for about six months until I realized something you
said.
"the folders can be accessed if the right credentials are there" well to
that affect :)
What hit was this service can logon as a user so I modified the logon from
LOCAL ACCOUNT to an administrator account I created just for this
application/service
I named it MerakMailServer and then gave it a password I had to restart the
service and it logged right back on without hitch. Ok now for the test?
Go to the file server and duplicate the MerakMailServer account and copy the
mailboxes to the file server. As we knew in the beginning.
Thanks a ton
"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
> Thanks for the feedbac - glad you could resolve it. At the
> same time I'm puzzled: The System account does not have
> any privileges to access networked resources, so how did
> you manage to do it?
>
>
> "Joe" wrote in message
> news:06186860-FF76-4055-ADB7-0CC10D1A5A94@microsoft.com...
> > Hello Pegasus
> >
> > I wanted to take the time to thank you very much for helping me.
> >
> > I have succeeded thanks to you. It took me six months to get someone to
> > understand my question and answer it. So,you might say I was both worn out
> > and frustrated.
> >
> > Thanks Again
> > Joe
> >
> > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
> >
> > > 1. Find out what account is used to run your mail server
> > > application or service.
> > >
> > > 2. Create that same account & password on the other
> > > machine.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Joe" wrote in message
> > > news:E50C9402-2962-4896-824A-B21C2AC2CF2E@microsoft.com...
> > > > Hello Pegasus,
> > > > Thank you for your reply.
> > > >
> > > > How would you set the permissions on a machine that doesn't have that
> > > > mailservers service running on it to select from?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Joe
> > > >
> > > > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The mail server runs as a service or as an application. In either
> > > > > case it is launched under a specific account, same as every other
> > > > > application or service in Windows. You need to give access
> > > > > rights to this specific account.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Joe" wrote in message
> > > > > news:A99A431D-44B7-431D-B7EE-436754F4EF00@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > Hello Pegasus,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In this mail server the mail server accounts are NOT machine
> accounts
> > > they
> > > > > > are exclusive to the mail server. So how is this going to work?
> e.g
> > > when
> > > > > an
> > > > > > account is created for mail it is not created in Windows.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How can you get the program NOT the user to access the folders?In
> AD
> > > DC I
> > > > > > can do this. How can you do this without an AD DC I don't think
> you
> > > can?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > Joe
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > The answer is the same as before: Make sure that the credentials
> > > > > > > of the account requiring access to the mail boxes are acceptable
> > > > > > > to the machine hosting the mail boxes.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Joe" wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:C4244643-F9C3-4922-AAE9-55EDCE435C5F@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > > > Hello Pegasus,
> > > > > > > > Thank you very much for your reply,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > My mailservers are not Exchange they are third party with
> webmail.
> > > A
> > > > > very
> > > > > > > > robust full featured mail system from Merak www.icewarp.com
> you
> > > may
> > > > > visit
> > > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > you would like a quick peek/overview.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > However in the past working with the mailserver tech support I
> was
> > > > > advised
> > > > > > > > that in order to get the permissions in Windows Server I would
> > > have to
> > > > > use
> > > > > > > an
> > > > > > > > AD DC well this worked fine.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > At that time I had only two servers and I was
> > > sharing/UNC/mailboxes
> > > > > on
> > > > > > > one
> > > > > > > > server. It occurred to me that this was a waste of time to a
> point
> > > > > because
> > > > > > > > even if the server that had the mailboxes on it went down the
> > > > > remaining
> > > > > > > mail
> > > > > > > > server would not be able to deposit the incoming mail anyhow.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This prompted me to look for another way. Hence I needed a
> third
> > > > > server
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > the UNC/mailboxes so no matter which server was offline I
> could
> > > still
> > > > > > > recieve
> > > > > > > > mail.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This brings me to this point today. I am trying to use the
> mail
> > > > > servers
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > let them access the mailboxes (which are actually folders) but
> I
> > > have
> > > > > > > never
> > > > > > > > seen a way to do this without implementing AD. I would think
> that
> > > > > there
> > > > > > > is?
> > > > > > > > This is also a problem in other cases too like IIS when the
> root
> > > > > folder is
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > another machine.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks very much
> > > > > > > > Joe
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "Joe" wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > news:9F91566F-F15D-4410-A42D-E828394A0328@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I posted this in Active directory also earlier but I think
> it
> > > > > might be
> > > > > > > > > > better answered here.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I have two mail servers and they are presently operating
> > > > > individually.
> > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > want to setup a file server so I can put the mailboxes on
> it
> > > and
> > > > > point
> > > > > > > > > both
> > > > > > > > > > the mailservers to that location (UNC) to share the same
> mailb
> > > oxes
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > hence
> > > > > > > > > > provide redundency for my network.. However in the past I
> was
> > > > > unable
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > accomplish this without AD DC because I suppose file
> > > permissions
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > only
> > > > > > > > > > DC's allow. Could you direct me in the best way to handle
> this
> > > > > > > > > configuration
> > > > > > > > > > please? So that apps/programs can access folders/ can
> access
> > > > > another
> > > > > > > > > > machines folders.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks very much
> > > > > > > > > > Joe
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > You can access files & folders on other machines if you
> > > > > > > > > have suitable credentials. In a workgroup environment
> > > > > > > > > this means that your logon account name / password must
> > > > > > > > > also be defined on the machine where the shared folders
> > > > > > > > > reside.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > If you need more specific information then you should
> > > > > > > > > provide full details about your mail servers (Exchange?)
> > > > > > > > > and your mail clients (Outlook?).
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
>
date: Thu, 4 May 2006 17:36:02 -0700
author: Joe
Re: File Server Permissions
OK, this makes sense. Thanks for the feedback.
"Joe" wrote in message
news:AB08C1D6-B52A-40D1-A712-9933D9FBB2D8@microsoft.com...
> Hello Pegasus,
>
> Yes I was puzzled too for about six months until I realized something you
> said.
>
> "the folders can be accessed if the right credentials are there" well to
> that affect :)
>
> What hit was this service can logon as a user so I modified the logon from
> LOCAL ACCOUNT to an administrator account I created just for this
> application/service
>
> I named it MerakMailServer and then gave it a password I had to restart
the
> service and it logged right back on without hitch. Ok now for the test?
>
> Go to the file server and duplicate the MerakMailServer account and copy
the
> mailboxes to the file server. As we knew in the beginning.
>
> Thanks a ton
>
> "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the feedbac - glad you could resolve it. At the
> > same time I'm puzzled: The System account does not have
> > any privileges to access networked resources, so how did
> > you manage to do it?
> >
> >
> > "Joe" wrote in message
> > news:06186860-FF76-4055-ADB7-0CC10D1A5A94@microsoft.com...
> > > Hello Pegasus
> > >
> > > I wanted to take the time to thank you very much for helping me.
> > >
> > > I have succeeded thanks to you. It took me six months to get someone
to
> > > understand my question and answer it. So,you might say I was both worn
out
> > > and frustrated.
> > >
> > > Thanks Again
> > > Joe
> > >
> > > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
> > >
> > > > 1. Find out what account is used to run your mail server
> > > > application or service.
> > > >
> > > > 2. Create that same account & password on the other
> > > > machine.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Joe" wrote in message
> > > > news:E50C9402-2962-4896-824A-B21C2AC2CF2E@microsoft.com...
> > > > > Hello Pegasus,
> > > > > Thank you for your reply.
> > > > >
> > > > > How would you set the permissions on a machine that doesn't have
that
> > > > > mailservers service running on it to select from?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Joe
> > > > >
> > > > > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > The mail server runs as a service or as an application. In
either
> > > > > > case it is launched under a specific account, same as every
other
> > > > > > application or service in Windows. You need to give access
> > > > > > rights to this specific account.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Joe" wrote in message
> > > > > > news:A99A431D-44B7-431D-B7EE-436754F4EF00@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > > Hello Pegasus,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In this mail server the mail server accounts are NOT machine
> > accounts
> > > > they
> > > > > > > are exclusive to the mail server. So how is this going to
work?
> > e.g
> > > > when
> > > > > > an
> > > > > > > account is created for mail it is not created in Windows.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How can you get the program NOT the user to access the
folders?In
> > AD
> > > > DC I
> > > > > > > can do this. How can you do this without an AD DC I don't
think
> > you
> > > > can?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > Joe
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The answer is the same as before: Make sure that the
credentials
> > > > > > > > of the account requiring access to the mail boxes are
acceptable
> > > > > > > > to the machine hosting the mail boxes.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Joe" wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:C4244643-F9C3-4922-AAE9-55EDCE435C5F@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > > > > Hello Pegasus,
> > > > > > > > > Thank you very much for your reply,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > My mailservers are not Exchange they are third party with
> > webmail.
> > > > A
> > > > > > very
> > > > > > > > > robust full featured mail system from Merak
www.icewarp.com
> > you
> > > > may
> > > > > > visit
> > > > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > > you would like a quick peek/overview.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > However in the past working with the mailserver tech
support I
> > was
> > > > > > advised
> > > > > > > > > that in order to get the permissions in Windows Server I
would
> > > > have to
> > > > > > use
> > > > > > > > an
> > > > > > > > > AD DC well this worked fine.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > At that time I had only two servers and I was
> > > > sharing/UNC/mailboxes
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > one
> > > > > > > > > server. It occurred to me that this was a waste of time to
a
> > point
> > > > > > because
> > > > > > > > > even if the server that had the mailboxes on it went down
the
> > > > > > remaining
> > > > > > > > mail
> > > > > > > > > server would not be able to deposit the incoming mail
anyhow.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > This prompted me to look for another way. Hence I needed a
> > third
> > > > > > server
> > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > the UNC/mailboxes so no matter which server was offline I
> > could
> > > > still
> > > > > > > > recieve
> > > > > > > > > mail.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > This brings me to this point today. I am trying to use the
> > mail
> > > > > > servers
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > let them access the mailboxes (which are actually folders)
but
> > I
> > > > have
> > > > > > > > never
> > > > > > > > > seen a way to do this without implementing AD. I would
think
> > that
> > > > > > there
> > > > > > > > is?
> > > > > > > > > This is also a problem in other cases too like IIS when
the
> > root
> > > > > > folder is
> > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > another machine.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks very much
> > > > > > > > > Joe
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > "Joe" wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > >
news:9F91566F-F15D-4410-A42D-E828394A0328@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I posted this in Active directory also earlier but I
think
> > it
> > > > > > might be
> > > > > > > > > > > better answered here.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I have two mail servers and they are presently
operating
> > > > > > individually.
> > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > > want to setup a file server so I can put the mailboxes
on
> > it
> > > > and
> > > > > > point
> > > > > > > > > > both
> > > > > > > > > > > the mailservers to that location (UNC) to share the
same
> > mailb
> > > > oxes
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > hence
> > > > > > > > > > > provide redundency for my network.. However in the
past I
> > was
> > > > > > unable
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > accomplish this without AD DC because I suppose file
> > > > permissions
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > only
> > > > > > > > > > > DC's allow. Could you direct me in the best way to
handle
> > this
> > > > > > > > > > configuration
> > > > > > > > > > > please? So that apps/programs can access folders/ can
> > access
> > > > > > another
> > > > > > > > > > > machines folders.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks very much
> > > > > > > > > > > Joe
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > You can access files & folders on other machines if you
> > > > > > > > > > have suitable credentials. In a workgroup environment
> > > > > > > > > > this means that your logon account name / password must
> > > > > > > > > > also be defined on the machine where the shared folders
> > > > > > > > > > reside.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > If you need more specific information then you should
> > > > > > > > > > provide full details about your mail servers (Exchange?)
> > > > > > > > > > and your mail clients (Outlook?).
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
date: Fri, 5 May 2006 10:42:41 +1000
author: Pegasus \(MVP\)
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