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Trashed W2K Server - Need Advice/Help - Rebuilding
THIS WAS ORIGINALY POSTED AT THE LINK BELOW
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http://www.computing.net/windows2000/wwwboard/forum/65390.html
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I had some problems with my W2K server and attempted to do a "repair" from
the install CD. At one point in the install, The application had problems
reading the CD and I quite (F3) out of the install and tried a different CD
drive. I ran into the same problem again. I decided that the problem was
with the CD itself. So, I got another one and it had the same problem.
While all this was going on, over several days, and after the first attempt
to "repair", I was able to backup the system drive with the backup utility
and at another point copied the system drive to another drive. So, I have
two copies of the system in different states of disrepair.
As it turned out, or at least I think, the install problem had to do with
the fact that I have SCSI and IDE drives on the system. I've recently,
within the last year or so, added two IDE drives to the system. I used the
"repair" option before and haven't had any problems. This time the install
program rearranged my disk configuration. I had a C: system drive and an E:
applications drive. The install application changed this configuration by
taking my two IDE drives and making the C: and D:, and the installed on the
system drive as the E: drive and the applications as the F: drive. This left
me with no applications on the system. After much fooling around, I've been
able to get the disk configuration back in order and install a new copy of
W2K on the system drive under the directory "NewNT". This has allowed me to
boot up.
I've copied what I think is the least damaged of the two W2k directories
onto the C: drive, but it lacks files, ntoskrnl is one. I've copied over the
kernel from the more damaged copy, but I just get into a situation where the
boot program keeps finding more and more things it doesn't like' mostly with
registry files. I'd like to some how get out of this with as little damage
as is possible.
THE PLAN
===========
Here's what I'm thinking about trying.
1) Do a fresh install of w2k into a c:\winnt
2) Install service pack 4 (this is the level I was at before this all began)
3) Restore the most complete copy I've got of the C: drive over the existing
C: drive without any replacement of existing files.
I'm hoping this will get me close to the original configuration and that the
only mismatch would be the registry files. A clean install will give me the
boot files and the boot.ini will allow me to point to a \winnt directory.
Here's a listing of the original configuration the files in the
%system%\repair directory
03/31/2008 09:50a <DIR> .
03/31/2008 09:50a <DIR> ..
12/07/1999 04:00a 438 autoexec.nt
04/12/2007 04:22p 2,620 config.nt
03/12/2008 06:06p 217,088 default
03/31/2008 09:50a 0 dir.txt
03/30/2008 09:41a <DIR> RegBack
03/12/2008 06:06p 32,768 sam
03/12/2008 06:06p 77,824 security
03/12/2008 06:04p 154,892 setup.log
03/12/2008 06:06p 35,991,552 software
03/12/2008 06:06p 3,272,704 system
9 File(s) 39,749,886 bytes
Directory of H:\NTRestore\WINNT\repair\RegBack
03/30/2008 09:41a <DIR> .
03/30/2008 09:41a <DIR> ..
03/12/2008 11:49a 217,088 default
03/12/2008 06:58p 5,939,200 NTUSER.DAT
03/12/2008 11:49a 32,768 SAM
03/12/2008 11:49a 77,824 SECURITY
03/12/2008 11:49a 35,479,552 software
03/12/2008 11:49a 7,520,256 system
03/12/2008 07:06p 167,936 UsrClass.dat
Here's a listing of the original configuration files in the system32\config
directory
Directory of H:\NTRestore\WINNT\system32\config
03/31/2008 10:17a <DIR> .
03/31/2008 10:17a <DIR> ..
03/12/2008 06:34p 524,072 AppEvent.Evt
03/12/2008 09:50a 221,184 default.sav
03/31/2008 10:17a 0 dir.txt
12/04/2005 08:20a 88 DnsEvent.Evt
03/12/2008 05:08p 32,768 sam.sav
03/12/2008 06:34p 76,632 SecEvent.Evt
03/12/2008 05:17p 90,112 security.sav
03/12/2008 09:50a 35,971,072 software.sav
03/12/2008 06:34p 155,664 SysEvent.Evt
03/12/2008 09:50a 5,660,672 system.sav
My understanding from
http://www.computing.net/windows2000/wwwboard/forum/17180.html is that I can
use the recovery console to replace the "new" registry files with the "old"
and when I boot again, I'll have the original system back, more or less,
except for the NTUser.dat in "Documents and Settings".
PLEASE let me know what yall think of this idea to get things back in order.
======================
UPDATE TO FIRST POST
======================
This has been a long and complicated journey. I believe the problem centered
on the idea that the w2k install program didn't maintain my drive
configuration. I think a complication is that the Adaptec SCSI RAID host
adapter knows what the SCSI configuration is, but the install program wanted
thing its own way with the two IDE drives coming first in the configuration.
This may seem like a strange thing to say, but it's the only way I have to
explain the install problems I encountered. One was that midway through the
install process files couldn't be read from CD. I even went so far as to
copy the files to my C: drive and run the install off that drive. But midway
through, files couldn't be copied. The second problem was that when I
isolated a single SCSI drive on the system, install would copy all files,
but then blue screen with a hardware problem when it tried to configure the
system. Once I removed the IDE drives from the system and included all SCSI
drives in the configuration, the install went smoothly.
Now that the configuration problem is solved, I'm faced with an "original"
w2k operating system which has gone through a "repair" effort which never
completed successfully. The "repair" process deleted main system files and
wasn't able to replace them.
The reason for doing a clean install of w2k into c:/winnt is so that I have
a bootable copy which has the same directory as before. The reason for the
restore of the old copy C: drive image is so that I can get the
functionality of my original system back. The missing piece in the above is
the registry files. Two options I can come up with to put the registry back
in order is 1) the recovery console and 2) trying F8 and restore last known
configuration.
If you have other ideas, I'd be glad to hear them.
date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 09:22:37 -0800
author: tfuller
Re: Trashed W2K Server - Need Advice/Help - Rebuilding
I'd say the chances of that working are slim to none. You've no idea of the
extent of the damage and or corruption in the registry. I'd start a clean
installation and rebuild from the ground up. You'll save a great amount of
time by doing so.
--
Regards,
Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect
"tfuller" wrote:
>
> THIS WAS ORIGINALY POSTED AT THE LINK BELOW
> ==============================================================
> http://www.computing.net/windows2000/wwwboard/forum/65390.html
> ==============================================================
>
> I had some problems with my W2K server and attempted to do a "repair" from
> the install CD. At one point in the install, The application had problems
> reading the CD and I quite (F3) out of the install and tried a different
> CD
> drive. I ran into the same problem again. I decided that the problem was
> with the CD itself. So, I got another one and it had the same problem.
>
> While all this was going on, over several days, and after the first
> attempt
> to "repair", I was able to backup the system drive with the backup utility
> and at another point copied the system drive to another drive. So, I have
> two copies of the system in different states of disrepair.
>
> As it turned out, or at least I think, the install problem had to do with
> the fact that I have SCSI and IDE drives on the system. I've recently,
> within the last year or so, added two IDE drives to the system. I used the
> "repair" option before and haven't had any problems. This time the install
> program rearranged my disk configuration. I had a C: system drive and an
> E:
> applications drive. The install application changed this configuration by
> taking my two IDE drives and making the C: and D:, and the installed on
> the
> system drive as the E: drive and the applications as the F: drive. This
> left
> me with no applications on the system. After much fooling around, I've
> been
> able to get the disk configuration back in order and install a new copy of
> W2K on the system drive under the directory "NewNT". This has allowed me
> to
> boot up.
>
> I've copied what I think is the least damaged of the two W2k directories
> onto the C: drive, but it lacks files, ntoskrnl is one. I've copied over
> the
> kernel from the more damaged copy, but I just get into a situation where
> the
> boot program keeps finding more and more things it doesn't like' mostly
> with
> registry files. I'd like to some how get out of this with as little damage
> as is possible.
>
> THE PLAN
> ===========
>
> Here's what I'm thinking about trying.
>
> 1) Do a fresh install of w2k into a c:\winnt
>
> 2) Install service pack 4 (this is the level I was at before this all
> began)
>
> 3) Restore the most complete copy I've got of the C: drive over the
> existing
> C: drive without any replacement of existing files.
>
> I'm hoping this will get me close to the original configuration and that
> the
> only mismatch would be the registry files. A clean install will give me
> the
> boot files and the boot.ini will allow me to point to a \winnt directory.
>
> Here's a listing of the original configuration the files in the
> %system%\repair directory
>
> 03/31/2008 09:50a <DIR> .
> 03/31/2008 09:50a <DIR> ..
> 12/07/1999 04:00a 438 autoexec.nt
> 04/12/2007 04:22p 2,620 config.nt
> 03/12/2008 06:06p 217,088 default
> 03/31/2008 09:50a 0 dir.txt
> 03/30/2008 09:41a <DIR> RegBack
> 03/12/2008 06:06p 32,768 sam
> 03/12/2008 06:06p 77,824 security
> 03/12/2008 06:04p 154,892 setup.log
> 03/12/2008 06:06p 35,991,552 software
> 03/12/2008 06:06p 3,272,704 system
> 9 File(s) 39,749,886 bytes
>
> Directory of H:\NTRestore\WINNT\repair\RegBack
>
> 03/30/2008 09:41a <DIR> .
> 03/30/2008 09:41a <DIR> ..
> 03/12/2008 11:49a 217,088 default
> 03/12/2008 06:58p 5,939,200 NTUSER.DAT
> 03/12/2008 11:49a 32,768 SAM
> 03/12/2008 11:49a 77,824 SECURITY
> 03/12/2008 11:49a 35,479,552 software
> 03/12/2008 11:49a 7,520,256 system
> 03/12/2008 07:06p 167,936 UsrClass.dat
>
> Here's a listing of the original configuration files in the
> system32\config
> directory
>
> Directory of H:\NTRestore\WINNT\system32\config
>
> 03/31/2008 10:17a <DIR> .
> 03/31/2008 10:17a <DIR> ..
> 03/12/2008 06:34p 524,072 AppEvent.Evt
> 03/12/2008 09:50a 221,184 default.sav
> 03/31/2008 10:17a 0 dir.txt
> 12/04/2005 08:20a 88 DnsEvent.Evt
> 03/12/2008 05:08p 32,768 sam.sav
> 03/12/2008 06:34p 76,632 SecEvent.Evt
> 03/12/2008 05:17p 90,112 security.sav
> 03/12/2008 09:50a 35,971,072 software.sav
> 03/12/2008 06:34p 155,664 SysEvent.Evt
> 03/12/2008 09:50a 5,660,672 system.sav
>
> My understanding from
> http://www.computing.net/windows2000/wwwboard/forum/17180.html is that I
> can
> use the recovery console to replace the "new" registry files with the
> "old"
> and when I boot again, I'll have the original system back, more or less,
> except for the NTUser.dat in "Documents and Settings".
>
> PLEASE let me know what yall think of this idea to get things back in
> order.
>
> ======================
> UPDATE TO FIRST POST
> ======================
>
> This has been a long and complicated journey. I believe the problem
> centered
> on the idea that the w2k install program didn't maintain my drive
> configuration. I think a complication is that the Adaptec SCSI RAID host
> adapter knows what the SCSI configuration is, but the install program
> wanted
> thing its own way with the two IDE drives coming first in the
> configuration.
> This may seem like a strange thing to say, but it's the only way I have to
> explain the install problems I encountered. One was that midway through
> the
> install process files couldn't be read from CD. I even went so far as to
> copy the files to my C: drive and run the install off that drive. But
> midway
> through, files couldn't be copied. The second problem was that when I
> isolated a single SCSI drive on the system, install would copy all files,
> but then blue screen with a hardware problem when it tried to configure
> the
> system. Once I removed the IDE drives from the system and included all
> SCSI
> drives in the configuration, the install went smoothly.
>
> Now that the configuration problem is solved, I'm faced with an "original"
> w2k operating system which has gone through a "repair" effort which never
> completed successfully. The "repair" process deleted main system files and
> wasn't able to replace them.
>
> The reason for doing a clean install of w2k into c:/winnt is so that I
> have
> a bootable copy which has the same directory as before. The reason for the
> restore of the old copy C: drive image is so that I can get the
> functionality of my original system back. The missing piece in the above
> is
> the registry files. Two options I can come up with to put the registry
> back
> in order is 1) the recovery console and 2) trying F8 and restore last
> known
> configuration.
>
> If you have other ideas, I'd be glad to hear them.
>
>
>
date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 10:09:04 -0600
author: Dave Patrick
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